Originally posted by Starscream M
battlehammer's examples don't show anything...they certainly don't show for certain that logan's adamantium skeleton didn't heat up
Certainly shows they dident heat up nearly to the extent as the two examples shown.
find it funny you write off nitro icident as pis, becuases it goes against real world sciences, but then ahve the nerve to find logan missing pieces of his skull and having dirrect roots to his brain in multiable area's as quite alright. Oh and your the same guy who refused to ack knowledge that Logan bones were connected as well dispite scan after scan, and unlike that brain crap it never been shown other wises
Originally posted by BattlehammerThe events of Snikt take place in an alternate timeline, there is nothing to suggest that IS 616 Wolverine, nothing at all.
I agree. I never ment it couldent be heated up, my arguement from the start was that it doesent heat up like normal metals, it takes more extreme heat.we see him grab his arm and shove it down into the core, if it was super hot woulda showed his hand burning. were your evidences that it isent 616? Why do I have to prove it 616? when there nothing that been said or suggested that it was an alternate universes.
I could post more, but two was suffiecent.
yes it can, just not as easily as normal metals. in question? The only one questioning it is masterbruce.........which is rediculous........
so now Logans missing pieces of his skull is just fine, but him suriving nitro blast is pis.......lol
Originally posted by Mindset
No way to no if it has a melting point, but so far it's so high that it doesn't matter as you'd have to have immense power to affect it with heat alone.What makes you say it doesn't heat up as fast?
Onces harden it can't liquify again. It unbreabkable. It also was stated in th weapon x noval if not mistaken, as well as in comics, but i cant remeber the issue. Logan skeletons been in the sun before........
becauses it only shown to heat up twice. It taken dirrect shots from nukes, incengrating blasts ect. never shown really any sign of beat heated up, not to mention Logan body started healing right after such attacks which if it was indeed heated up like other metals it be impossiable
Originally posted by BattlehammerWith enough heat it would affect the bonds of the metal, it would be no different from matter manipulation, in a sense. In comics, not sure about the real world, the sun is infinitesimal to the amount of thermal energy that can be produced by some individuals. We know that adamantium isn't truly unbreakable and has been manipulated into liquid by Magneto, and what you are suggesting is a no limits fallacy.
Onces harden it can't liquify again. It unbreabkable. It also was stated in th weapon x noval if not mistaken, as well as in comics, but i cant remeber the issue. Logan skeletons been in the sun before........becauses it only shown to heat up twice. It taken dirrect shots from nukes, incengrating blasts ect. never shown really any sign of beat heated up, not to mention Logan body started healing right after such attacks which if it was indeed heated up like other metals it be impossiable
Originally posted by Mindset
With enough heat it would affect the bonds of the metal, it would be no different from matter manipulation, in a sense. In comics, not sure about the real world, the sun is infinitesimal to the amount of thermal energy that can be produced by some individuals. We know that adamantium isn't truly unbreakable and has been manipulated into liquid by Magneto, and what you are suggesting is a no limits fallacy.
there been zero evidences to suggest his bones can melt. actaully in comics it does differ from matter manipulation.
Logan been hit by nukes, fallen into molten lava, been in the sun ect nothing has melted it so far.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
thats becuases Magneto has dirrect controll over metal.there been zero evidences to suggest his bones can melt. actaully in comics it does differ from matter manipulation.
Logan been hit by nukes, fallen into molten lava, been in the sun ect nothing has melted it so far.
I did Mindset, and you do have a point, but Magneto liquified his skeleton because of his immense control over the electromagnetic spectrum, he actually broke apart the bonds holding it together, causing it to liquify. And it has been stated that once it hardens, it's unbreakalbe. However, it can be taken apart by something of great force, such as matter manipulation, or Magneto's powers.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
thats becuases Magneto has dirrect controll over metal.there been zero evidences to suggest his bones can melt. actaully in comics it does differ from matter manipulation.
Logan been hit by nukes, fallen into molten lava, been in the sun ect nothing has melted it so far.
I hope you're not referring to the New X-men arc? About having been in the sun.
Originally posted by KingD19I'm saying that with heat the same effects that Magneto had on the metal can be accomplished, different method, but same result.
I did Mindset, and you do have a point, but Magneto liquified his skeleton because of his immense control over the electromagnetic spectrum, he actually broke apart the bonds holding it together, causing it to liquify. And it has been stated that once it hardens, it's unbreakalbe. However, it can be taken apart by something of great force, such as matter manipulation, or Magneto's powers.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Off-topic. And it isn't an argument, it's a fact:IDLI, IDH is an argument. But not a very good one.
Yeah? No it's not.
The fact of the matter is that the premise to your argument discredits itself as much as it helps. Wolverine's skull represented on panel has shown bone behind the eye sockets and bone receding into the eye sockets, it's shown his auditory canal to be accurately lower on his head than his ear appears making the arrow feat impossible. Wolverine takes class 100 punches without his eye being sunk into his head. Had adamatium receding into this eye sockets after being shotgunned in the face. He's now been shown to take two rounds to the eye with no trouble. Took a Shingen sowrd strike to the eye that had the FX sound of him hittinng Adamantium. Weapon X giving Agent Zero anti-metal rounds for the sole purpose of getting a shot into his head. No mention of this weakness in multiples of X-rays, examinations and observations by every organization from Weapon X, to the X-men to Alpha Flight. The only mention of a variation in his skeletal structure being that of his canines and claws.
Yet 4 unrelated incidents compounded by 2 more unrelated incidents cement this crazy ass notion as a fact?
Wolverine wondering if an explosive round going into his eye might put him does not mean he doesn't have bone there. An explosive round can still send miniscule fragments into the orbital fissure hittinh the frontal lobes due to jet effect so he may have been accounting for that.
Rogue said she knew about anatomy, making no reference to Wolverine's anatomy specifically and proved that her knowledge about it was piss poor. Fact is she didn't know dick about HIS anatomy as she wasn't even aware of what his claws did to him while they were retracted in his forearms until she absorbed that physical feature. And Wolverine didn't even remotely validate her assumption in that instance.
But it's still a fact?
Why because it's "on panel".... To swallow that pill you ALSO have to ignore tons of ON PANEL evidence.
I think you've just become such an advocate of this insane position that you're too invested to let it go even though there's as much evidence to counter it as there is to support it.
A better argument would be "IF Logan's missing bones this would happen, and if he's not it wouldn't." But you like pretending to be right too much to give that much room for doubt.
In any case it isn't a fact it's four unrelated moments of PIS until proven otherwise.
