The Lizard VS. Wolverine

i think ppl forget about the lizards posture it isnt erect like a human but he slouches over kinda how wolverine does but unlike wolverine the lizard leans more forward using his tail as a counter balance.

add to the fact that the lizards legs have the double ankle animal thing going for it when it walks on its front pad and his main form of attack is to lunge, it is no wonder he cant stand up straight when his tail is cut off.

that is not even adding to the pain and loss of blood from the loss of the tail. anyone with common sense an a iota of artistic human/animal anatomy knowledge knows how a tail works or how it would work on such a creature if it existed and guess what that is how it works in marvel so common sense applies to the MU when it comes to the tail humanoid anatomy.

this is the same creature who uses its tail to help it regain its center of balance in mid air when thrown by spiderman to help it land on its feet.. the same creature who feels comfortable scurrying on all fours...

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Because something can grow back mean it can not KO you if it cut off or ripped out?

Can you even post 3 separate examples of lizard withstanding damage of that magnitude with out being KOed?

Because I won't hold my breath.

You know this is not an ability of all lizards posses? You also realize that cutting it off right away and a lizard releasing it from a predator is not the same thing?

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context, I mean the issues right there man. He was afraid of cutting off the other arm je could not remember which one was which. also can you even post a single example of lizard loosing his arm in lizard form and regrowing it right back?

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how about you prove it.

I love for you to provide evidence of the things I asked for, because you talk a big game about this and that. That it due to wolverine popularity (funny given the fact Lizard is a rogue of marvel most popular character) and it mis represented his abilities and wolverine always win ( talking out your ass again awesome, about a character you have almost no real knowledge of how refreshing from how you act all the time.....

1.lol, no but if you're supposed to lose a limb as a natural means of defense, it would make absolutely no sense to simply pass out when you lose it......that kinda defeats the purpose.....duh.lol

2.I would post them, for I easily could - in case you didn't know, I don't only claim things, but I devote some time to making threads chalk full of scans to support claims - you can simply check the thread. I'm sure that you'll just pick apart every scan with ridiculous prejudice though, so I won't waste my time and/or effort.

Your own special little definition of the magnitude of injury sustained by wolverine's attack will no doubt be way more than any injury he's ever had......for obvious reasons.

3. Stan lee based lizard's healing factor on the fact that lizard's can lose their tails as self-defense......how then would it make any sense that he can't do the same. You're grasping......for Logan's sake.

when lizard's release their tails, their flesh is still torn, and they still bleed(i've seen it first hand). They have weakened spinal vertebrae, and they contract a muscle to break the tail between them......how is it different, then?

4.check the thread, I done posting scans for you. In one scan on my thread though, curt connor's mind is regaining control of a singular arm, and lizard is about to bite it off. He says he can always grow another arm later......you'll have to find it yourself though.lol

5.lol, well, that's easy.......read my posts.....duh, again.

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some advance, focus less on slandering the one on the opposite side of your argument, and more on proving your argument right and his or her's wrong.

Originally posted by namorsubby
1.lol, no but if you're supposed to lose a limb as a natural means of defense, it would make absolutely no sense to simply pass out when you lose it......that kinda defeats the purpose.....duh.lol

It makes no senses because your ignorant that is why. You assume becuase they have such an ability that makes them immune to passing out or even dieing from such injuries to that limb. You would be very mistaken. Lizard that loses there tail naturally as a defenses does not in any way make them immune to having it cut straight off, this is an absurd statement founded by ignorance of the animal. Lizards that posses the ability to loses there tail, do so by dislocating joints in the tail which a predator locks on so that they can escape. The design of the releases clots the blood so they dont bleed out, and also send chemical changes to the body which increases the ability to heal the location. (which still takes several years to heal completely if ever). This in no way shape or form is the same thing as having it cut off. A lizard who has it tail cut off with a single swing unnaturally can easily die there is a huge ordeal within there body that has to take place and is triggered by them releasing the joints in there tail, which is not the case when it is simply cut off by an unnatural source. This misconception that there tail simply can be cut off at anytime and they will be completely fine is founded by ignorant people like you.

Originally posted by namorsubby
2.I would post them, for I easily could - in case you didn't know, I don't only claim things, but I devote some time to making threads chalk full of scans to support claims - you can simply check the thread. I'm sure that you'll just pick apart every scan with ridiculous prejudice though, so I won't waste my time and/or effort.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Your own special little definition of the magnitude of injury sustained by wolverine's attack will no doubt be way more than any injury he's ever had......for obvious reasons.

Originally posted by namorsubby
3. Stan lee based lizard's healing factor on the fact that lizard's can lose their tails as self-defense......how then would it make any sense that he can't do the same. You're grasping......for Logan's sake.

losing ones tail naturally and having it cut off in a single swing are not even remotely the same. whats worse is you can't even find a single example of lizard having it tail cut off and being fine nor can you find a single example from lee saying that any such injury could occur with lizard being fine

Originally posted by namorsubby
when lizard's release their tails, their flesh is still torn, and they still bleed(i've seen it first hand). They have weakened spinal vertebrae, and they contract a muscle to break the tail between them......how is it different, then?
seeing how something happens and understanding it are not remotely the same.

Though I doubt very much you have seen it first hand. When they release the vertebrae in causes a naturally fast acting blood clot which other wises would not take play as well as chemical releases in there body which speeds up immune system and healing all of which are trigger by them releasing thee portion of there tail from the other, which allows the predictor to easily rip it off.

Originally posted by namorsubby
4.check the thread, I done posting scans for you. In one scan on my thread though, curt connor's mind is regaining control of a singular arm, and lizard is about to bite it off. He says he can always grow another arm later......you'll have to find it yourself though.lol

sp in other words you have no evidence and know you don't so you try to save face by pretending your posts numerous scans as evidence to me that you never did........great as if I thought you could not dispoint any further you bring it to another hole level.

how does him saying he can regrow another one later equate to him beimg able to wistand losing one in a fight, growing back in any amount of time that would matter?
5.lol, well, that's easy.......read my posts.....duh, again.

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Originally posted by namorsubby
some advance, focus less on slandering the one on the opposite side of your argument, and more on proving your argument right and his or her's wrong.

notice how you try to ignore evidence you don't like and then when ask to provide evidence your self you make excuses up?

yea your a ****ing joke.

debating you is a waste of time, hell ****ing master buce provides more evidence and reasoned post then you and he does not even read comics........

alright, Battlehammer......you're getting out of hand and out of control with the name-calling and such. And since it seems you are unable to disagree with someone on such matters so dear to your heart without insulting them for no reason whatsoever, similar to what the type of person you keep calling me would do, I'll have to call it a day. If you can't keep it on a professional and respectful level then I'll have no part of this.

If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you, then maybe you should stay out of the vs forums....just a suggestion.

Originally posted by namorsubby
alright, Battlehammer......you're getting out of hand and out of control with the name-calling and such.

Originally posted by namorsubby
And since it seems you are unable to disagree with someone on such matters so dear to your heart without insulting them for no reason whatsoever, similar to what the type of person you keep calling me would do, I'll have to call it a day. If you can't keep it on a professional and respectful level then I'll have no part of this.

this kinda shit is just pathetic. You pretend to play so noble card out of princable, but the fact is you got call you bullshit you spew and you can't back it up, If you could you would, I know this, you know it, **** everyone knows it. what sad is the fact you can't even admitt it. Shit like this is just the lowest form f debating. I mean people can knock insulting all they want, but bitching out like this when called out to prove your points is as low as it gets

Originally posted by namorsubby
If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you, then maybe you should stay out of the vs forums....just a suggestion.

yes you are a little *****, I dont give a rats ass, that I am being unsulting. you go around acting like a pompous prick and when you get called out to prove your bs comments you pull this shit.

You're in disagreement with someone over a comic-book related topic and you decide to do this? Battlehammer, I'm really starting to think that you are only like 13, seriously.

be in disagreement, that's fine. Believe what you want concerning me, that's also fine, but this kinda behavior looks exactly like something an immature child would pull....or a trolling fanboy.

Originally posted by namorsubby
You're in disagreement with someone over a comic-book related topic and you decide to do this? Battlehammer, I'm really starting to think that you are only like 13, seriously.

Originally posted by namorsubby
be in disagreement, that's fine. Believe what you want concerning me, that's also fine, but this kinda behavior looks exactly like something an immature child would pull....or a trolling fanboy.

the easiest way to shut me up would be to prove your points, instead of whining about how I am hurting your little feelings.

The difference with me and you, if some called me out like I am doing with you, the last thing I would do is whine at them about the immaturity. I would go and post a shit load f evidence and make them look like an idiot.

But then again I would not have posted utterly bs statements like yourself.

Nor would I whine like this, but thats because I don't need a deflection like some people I know 🙄 about all the bull shit spewed.

alright BH, you're right, yes, I said it. Your supreme knowledge has proven me an moron and all I can do is "whine"(ie simply asking you not to insult me), there.....you happy? 😆

Originally posted by namorsubby
alright BH, you're right, yes, I said it. Your supreme knowledge has proven me an moron and all I can do is "whine"(ie simply asking you not to insult me), there.....you happy? 😆

prove your points or shut up.

yes sir......shutting up.......omg, this is rich😆

Originally posted by namorsubby
yes sir......shutting up.......omg, this is rich😆

I was laughing at you telling me to shut up from your monitor.....it was quite hilarious.....😆

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Can you even post 3 separate examples of lizard withstanding damage of that magnitude with out being KOed?

Because I won't hold my breath.

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. also can you even post a single example of lizard loosing his arm in lizard form and regrowing it right back?

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how about you prove it.

I love for you to provide evidence of the things I asked for, because you talk a big game about this and that. That it due to wolverine popularity (funny given the fact Lizard is a rogue of marvel most popular character) and it mis represented his abilities and wolverine always win ( talking out your ass again awesome, about a character you have almost no real knowledge of how refreshing from how you act all the time.....

Stop the trolling, bashing and flaming.

Wolverine is a skilled agent. At his best I doubt the Lizard can trap him.