spidey was tossed half a mile holding lizard tail with a 10 ton grip. he could easily BFR wolverine.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/AmazingSpiderman006-09.jpg
spidey was tossed half a mile holding lizard tail with a 10 ton grip. he could easily BFR wolverine.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/AmazingSpiderman006-09.jpg
Originally posted by Battlehammerhealing factor and durability are 2 entirely different things. you're mistaken.
actaully your 100% incorrect.Logan healing factor is strong enough to withstand hulk level belows and I have massive amounts of evidences to support this.
wolveine has examples of being KO by much less force. those higher end showings aren't usual.
Originally posted by redhotrashyou know how fast lizard can regrow a tail?
Wolverine removes Lizard's tail like a sadistic kid in South Florida. I cant see Lizard taking more than 2 wins out of 10 here.
and like i said. he has spidey speed. you've never seen wolverine chop up spidey.......and you never will. he's not chopping up anyone with that level of speed/agility
Originally posted by emporerpantslizard's not dying from anything besides decapitation or dismemeberment of some kind on a large scale.and like i said, wolvie's not just gonna slice up someone with that level of speed/agility.........this has been proven.
meh, lizard is impressive, but he still gets killed by wolvie before he's able to bfr him or knock him out.
i doubt wolverine would do more than a few slashes here and there........only because lizard is less concerned about evading then spidey. his tail could KO a wolverine on an average showing......and he could definitely BFR him.
Originally posted by Placidity
I gave two reasons - PIS or Adamantium.Lets assume you have your evidence. Do you [b]honestly
believe that Wolverine's bones (without adamantium) will not break in almost every place after receiving a full power punch from the Hulk? [/B]
why it pis? becuases you dislike it? It very much part of wolverines character and he done so repeatedly for well over a decade.
Logan has shownnrepeatedly to take hulk level attacks in bone claws form and get back right up to fight some more. His body instantly heals the damage to his bones.
Originally posted by namorsubby
spidey was tossed half a mile holding lizard tail with a 10 ton grip. he could easily BFR wolverine.http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/AmazingSpiderman006-09.jpg
Originally posted by namorsubby
healing factor and durability are 2 entirely different things. you're mistaken.
Oh and as for that crap you quoted……..you’re wrong. Logan has shown the majority of the time to take repeated shots from class 100’s. It not high end showings it the norm for his character and has been for over a decade.
Originally posted by namorsubby
you know how fast lizard can regrow a tail?
Originally posted by namorsubby
and like i said. he has spidey speed. you've never seen wolverine chop up spidey.......and you never will. he's not chopping up anyone with that level of speed/agility
Oh and Logan easly beat vermin who just like lizard physically.
Originally posted by namorsubby
lizard's not dying from anything besides decapitation or dismemeberment of some kind on a large scale.and like i said, wolvie's not just gonna slice up someone with that level of speed/agility.........this has been proven.
Sorry, but lizard not faster. And Logan slashes up individuals as fast or faster then lizard all the time like sabertooth, ladydeathstrike ect.
Originally posted by namorsubby
i doubt wolverine would do more than a few slashes here and there........only because lizard is less concerned about evading then spidey. his tail could KO a wolverine on an average showing......and he could definitely BFR him.
That is complete and utter bullshit. Logan average showings have him taking repeated shots from class 100’s. There no way in hell he getting KO by lizard with his tail. And there no way a haft mile throw would bfr wolverine. Oh and were are you getting your wolverine information becuases it incorrect………and sounds like your talking out your back end with no knowledge of the character your debating against.
Originally posted by Battlehammeroh i get it. you're saying because he's around three hundred pounds so he wouldn't go as far as spidey who was holding on for dear life. the same spidey who also has 10 ton strength. get real. he'd go miles.and i believe removal from field is a lose.
First spiderman has overall 10 ton strength. So it be impossible for his grip to be 10 ton’s. also what does spiderman strength have to do with it? Logan who heavier would not go as far though it hardly matters since haft a mile is well within wolverines ability to return from..Oh I know this and I was referring to his healing factor. And I am not mistaken.
Oh and as for that crap you quoted……..you’re wrong. Logan has shown the majority of the time to take repeated shots from class 100’s. It not high end showings it the norm for his character and has been for over a decade.
Yes and yet he enevr shown the ability to take serous stab wound damage and keep battling. He great with growing limbs, but other damage he has yet to show to be impressive.
Logan just as fast……….and Logan never tried to kill spidy………he has stabbed spidy, kicked him in the balls, had spidy think wolverine might be faster ect. You really don’t want to compare wolverine and spiderman together. Wolverine has repeatedly shown to come out on top or to look the superior of the two in battle.
Oh and Logan easly beat vermin who just like lizard physically.
When has it been proven? Logan slashed the shit out of vermin…….taken down puma……..spiderman ect. Hung there with venom.
Sorry, but lizard not faster. And Logan slashes up individuals as fast or faster then lizard all the time like sabertooth, ladydeathstrike ect.
That is complete and utter bullshit. Logan average showings have him taking repeated shots from class 100’s. There no way in hell he getting KO by lizard with his tail. And there no way a haft mile throw would bfr wolverine. Oh and were are you getting your wolverine information becuases it incorrect………and sounds like your talking out your back end with no knowledge of the character your debating against.
you were mistaken. durability enables you to withstand, a healing factor does no such thing. this common misconception was most likely the basis for some of wolverine's very few, inconsistent, high-end, durability feats.
i could definitely show you scans of wolvie getting KOed by someone not as strong as lizard, but it doesn't matter. like a said, those high end examples don't represent the majority or the consistency of his showings.
you didn't go back and look at the scans did you?.i posted one where he was shot up all over.....so badly that he arm was hanging off. very quick recovery. then there was the one where he virtually got his throat ripped out and he was tossed of a high building. again, quick recoverly and he never shows any sign of pain. like i said. it'll take extreme dismemberment or decapitation.
lizard is definitely faster than wolverine. like i said he's either = to spidey or lizard > spidey. there's no way he's faster. and also like i said before, he's not slashing and chopping up a character with spidey speed.
lol. got a little frustrated by the end of your statement, didn't you? there's no need for personal attack. it's just my opinion. and it's just a debate.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You know what. Wolverine maybe able to take class 100 shots but I don't think he can take class 10 shots indefintley. I think im still verging on Wolverine but I don't think you're making a badcase namorsubby.
So the Lizard is going to hit him indefinetly?
Come on Phantom, your fueling the fire.
thank you phantomzone.
on an average day, i think wolverine loses.i am well aware that wolverine has a somewhat more than a few showings that that are quite..........i guess i'll use "atonishing"..........and that if you were going to base your decision solely off of those showings this would be a no brainer, but i'm going off of what i know for sure about both characters, what logan most often is potrayed as, and what each are generally considered.
it is definitely fair to say that spidey on average is more than a little faster/more agile than logan. that means so is lizard.
it is definitely not streching the truth to say logan could be KOed/BFRed by a faster opponent with a 12ton lifting strength and a tail described as his post powerful weapon by far(in other words, more than lifting strength, or 12 tons). a tail that tossed a 10 tonner hanging on for dear life a half mile away.
it is fair to say that since logan has been shown being KOed by less force in th past and some of his more extravangant durability showings are not very prevelent that he could in fact by Koed by lizard's tail.
it's not unreasonable to conclude that if someone with comparable speed/agility has faced wolverine before without ever suffering an amount of damage that could even come close to killing lizard due to their speed/agility, that the lizard would do the same.
Originally posted by tkitnathat is just untrue. i know who wolverine is, and saying he loses this match doesn't implicate a lack on knowledge on him. saying the lizard has no way to win at all however could suggest the same in reverse though.
There is just no way for the Lizard to win. I've accepted it, now its time for everybody else to do so.
saying that this is just a matter of "acceptance" leads me to believe that you are implying that one who doesn't agree with you is operating off of something besides logic and reasoning.......maybe something like bias and favortism. i don't appreciate that notion. maybe they just have more knowledge than usual concerning said character and although it would be against the norm to support a character of such stature and reputation vs a character like wolverine, they have chosen to do so because they feel apathy towards what others would think or say?
Originally posted by tkitna
So the Lizard is going to hit him indefinetly?Come on Phantom, your fueling the fire.
Not really. To be fair there is evidence that Lizard is faster than Spiderman and he has a very good HF, this fight is going to last a long time. However I think in the long run Lizards is going to end up worse.
Originally posted by namorsubbyit's not unreasonable to conclude that if someone with comparable speed/agility has faced wolverine before without [b]ever
suffering an amount of damage that could even come close to killing lizard due to their speed/agility, that the lizard would do the same. [/B]
Talking about Spiderman? Hmmm the problem is Spiderman is fatser than Wolverine but Wolverine still manhandles him. Actually in hindsight even if Lizard is slightly faster than Spiderman im not sure if its going to make that much difference but of course his HF will....hmmm...im gonna look at his respect thread.
spidey is a fool when it comes to fighting. he's never serious. he's never ruthless.he's never giving all he's got. wolverine is all of the above and trained and skilled. that's why he can deal with spidey.......IMO more effectively than lizard. especially a lizard that is not just a savage beast.
spidey still never sustained damage that could ever come close to killing lizard in a fight with wolverine due to his speed/agility though, and since lizard is at least equal to him in speed/agility, i would assume that he wouldn't either.
Originally posted by namorsubby
spidey is a fool when it comes to fighting. he's never serious. he's never ruthless.he's never giving all he's got. wolverine is all of the above and trained and skilled. that's why he can deal with spidey.......IMO more effectively than lizard. especially a lizard that is not just a savage beast.
I think thats a good point, but bear in mind hes also hes not as well trained as Wolverine.
Originally posted by namorsubby
spidey still never sustained damage that could ever come close to killing lizard in a fight with wolverine due to his speed/agility though, and since lizard is at least equal to him in speed/agility, i would assume that he wouldn't either.
To be fair I think thats because Wolverine was holding back. Wolverine has stabbed an upraded Spiderman but did it in a way which didn'y kill him.
The thing about Spiderman is that he has to beat the Lizard with force. Wolverine has weapons. I also agree that Spiderman usually looks like a scared chump when he and Wolverine go at it.
Oh well, I just cant accept that the Lizard can beat Wolverine. I dont even like Wolverine, but I have to take him in this battle. Maybe the Lizard can win. I dont care enough about it to continue. Good posting gents.
thank you.
just to be clear, i certainly don't think wolverine isn't capable of taking this match. i mean it's not like he's much slower, and his technique/skill is not to be compared. one shot to the head and he could end it, although i'll admit i don't think it's likely with a charcter of that speed, i would never go as far as to say he absolutely couldn't do it.plus logan's HF is pretty much unparalled. curt's teeth/claws are virtually a non-factor here, that's why i've neglected to mention them.
Originally posted by namorsubby
spidey was tossed half a mile holding lizard tail with a 10 ton grip. he could easily BFR wolverine.http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/AmazingSpiderman006-09.jpg
That's rediculous. Why would Wolverine even bother grabbing his tail in the first place? He doesn't have 20 ton strength, so I can't see him trying to hold him by the tail like that. He is much more likely to just cut it off.
Really you can't compare to how Spidey fights oppenents to how Logan fights them. Even if he was in the exact same situation as this scan, there is nothing stopping him from just letting go of the tail before being sent flying. 😬
