Future Peter vs. Smallville Clark

Originally posted by Mindset
In none of those did he blitz the person from the start of the fight.

Clark almost always lets the person attack him first.

None....Umm...

He wasn't fighting Mikhail Mxyzptlk. Mxyzptlk was attacking Chloe, Clark was playing American Football at the time. He ran back into the school, threw Mxyzptlk into some lockers, broke Chloe's handcuffs and returned to the game before anyone noticed.
He blitzed Brainiac at the power plant while Brainiac was powering himself up. He ran in from the side and punched Brainiac into...ahh forget it here you go:

YouTube video

Also when he blitzed Brainiac at the farm it was the beginning of the episode. They weren't fighting before hand. Think about what your saying before you post, cheers.

Originally posted by The Pict
None....Umm...

He wasn't fighting Mikhail Mxyzptlk. Mxyzptlk was attacking Chloe, Clark was playing American Football at the time. He ran back into the school, threw Mxyzptlk into some lockers, broke Chloe's handcuffs and returned to the game before anyone noticed.
He blitzed Brainiac at the power plant while Brainiac was powering himself up. He ran in from the side and punched Brainiac into...ahh forget it here you go:

YouTube video

Also when he blitzed Brainiac at the farm it was the beginning of the episode. They weren't fighting before hand. Think about what your saying before you post, cheers.

I didn't see Brainiac in your post, I just saw Mikhail and Bizarro.

You have 2 instances of a legitimate speedblitz, but Clark either usually lets the person initiate the attack or he does not speedblitz them at the start of the fight.

Do you deny this?

Here are 2 examples, I would show more, but my browser wont load youtube videos correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-oaSSUpKBo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJByMdT8a70&feature=related

daphne made it from paris to germany in a few seconds, peter not only can stop time (rendering clark human or at the least with slight super speed) he can can teleport making him even faster, and he has enoug hreaction time to react to speed blitz (regular hiro reacted to daphnes speed blitzes)

that being said peter has super stength coupled with the ability to phase or simply teleport clark to any point in time or space he desires (including inside another person)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
daphne made it from paris to germany in a few seconds, (regular hiro reacted to daphnes speed blitzes)

Originally posted by Mindset
I didn't see Brainiac in your post, I just saw Mikhail and Bizarro.

You have 2 instances of a legitimate speedblitz, but Clark either usually lets the person initiate the attack or he does not speedblitz them at the start of the fight.

Do you deny this?

Here are 2 examples, I would show more, but my browser wont load youtube videos correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-oaSSUpKBo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJByMdT8a70&feature=related

Who cares if Clark sometimes gets hit before he blitzes? 😬

The fact is we've proven he uses his superspeed in fights, whether it's at the start, middle or end. And as KMC rules dictate he'll be going all out, so he won't be standing around waiting to get hit. Fight starts he blitzes Peter, end of story IMO.

Edit: Also going back to our argument I have to say your examples are a bit unfair to use when argiung if Clark usually speedblitzes. When he gets hit from Titan he doesn't dodge/blitz because Lois was there and she doesn't know his secret. And against Canary, Clark doesn't know if she has super strength or whatever. You think he'd suddenly punch some slim, unassuming woman at superspeed the first time he met her, without knowing if he'd injure/kill her?

Originally posted by The Pict
Who cares if Clark sometimes gets hit before he blitzes? 😬

The fact is we've proven he uses his superspeed in fights, whether it's at the start, middle or end. And as KMC rules dictate he'll be going all out, so he won't be standing around waiting to get hit. Fight starts he blitzes Peter, end of story IMO.

The point I was making is even if Clark hesitates for a second Peter could either time stop or teleport.

Going all out=/= bloodlust, so even if he did speedblitz there's the chance Peter would not be koed. Which would probably be the case unless Clark is planning and smashing his skull.

Also, Clark doesn't just sometimes get hit before a speedblitz, that's what happens the majority of the time.

Originally posted by The Pict
Edit: Also going back to our argument I have to say your examples are a bit unfair to use when argiung if Clark usually speedblitzes. When he gets hit from Titan he doesn't dodge/blitz because Lois was there and she doesn't know his secret. And against Canary, Clark doesn't know if she has super strength or whatever. You think he'd suddenly punch some slim, unassuming woman at superspeed the first time he met her, without knowing if he'd injure/kill her?

Clark didn't speedblitz Titan when Lois was koed.

Clark knows how much damage Peter can take?

And there are more examples, I just can't get youtube to work.

Originally posted by Mindset
Clark didn't speedblitz Titan when Lois was koed.

Clark knows how much damage Peter can take?

No we're moving onto how often Clark blitzes, not just when fights start? sly
The Titan fight doesn't really reflect this match up. He didn't immediately blitz (which he'll do here due to the rules) because Lois was there and as Peter has no high durability feats it's lights out IMO.

No but it doesn't matter, he's not in an episode of Smallville, he's looking to take Peter out here.

Originally posted by The Pict
No we're moving onto how often Clark blitzes, not just when fights start? sly
The Titan fight doesn't really reflect this match up. He didn't immediately blitz (which he'll do here due to the rules) because Lois was there and as Peter has no high durability feats it's lights out IMO.

No but it doesn't matter, he's not in an episode of Smallville, he's looking to take Peter out here.

😠 Touche

And Peter should have the same durability as Sylar, he was taking a beating from super strength Peter. Which if Clark wanted to kill him would't matter, but if he's not bloodlusted it would.

Clark fighting to his full ability isn't the same as him being bloodlusted. Unless KMC has a specific definition, which I don't know.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well with your description it seemed like you had never seen Smallville.

What hth skills does Smallville Clark have?

none.

He did beat that phantom zoner in the underground fighting episode in season 6 I believe it was. That was like the only time Clark has ever really had a chance to use any H2H. Most of the time H2H from Clark would kill the opponent.

Originally posted by Magee
Getting to Paris from Germany in a few seconds but not being able to reach Hiro who was about 20 feet away before he could think... The two feats really contradict each other.

Originally posted by The Pict
Who cares if Clark sometimes gets hit before he blitzes? 😬

The fact is we've proven he uses his superspeed in fights, whether it's at the start, middle or end. And as KMC rules dictate he'll be going all out, so he won't be standing around waiting to get hit. Fight starts he blitzes Peter, end of story IMO.

Edit: Also going back to our argument I have to say your examples are a bit unfair to use when argiung if Clark usually speedblitzes. When he gets hit from Titan he doesn't dodge/blitz because Lois was there and she doesn't know his secret. And against Canary, Clark doesn't know if she has super strength or whatever. You think he'd suddenly punch some slim, unassuming woman at superspeed the first time he met her, without knowing if he'd injure/kill her?

Originally posted by snyper1982
He did beat that phantom zoner in the underground fighting episode in season 6 I believe it was. That was like the only time Clark has ever really had a chance to use any H2H. Most of the time H2H from Clark would kill the opponent.

Neither the person you are talking about, Titan, nor Clark showed any hth skills besides just brawling.

Originally posted by Mindset
Neither the person you are talking about, Titan, nor Clark showed any hth skills besides just brawling.

I am just saying that in the show he doesn't often get a chance to actually employ any H2H. That was one of the few times he did.

His speed would cancel out the time stop power wouldn't it? So all he'd have to do from there on out is hit him with a dose of heat vision to the brain ftw

Originally posted by Mindset
😠 Touche

And Peter should have the same durability as Sylar, he was taking a beating from super strength Peter. Which if Clark wanted to kill him would't matter, but if he's not bloodlusted it would.

Clark fighting to his full ability isn't the same as him being bloodlusted. Unless KMC has a specific definition, which I don't know.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
His speed would cancel out the time stop power wouldn't it? So all he'd have to do from there on out is hit him with a dose of heat vision to the brain ftw

Can't Peter phase too?

Clark has already dealt with people who can phase in like Season 1 or 2.
KMC rules, with characters fighting to the best of there ability's Clark speediblitzes the hell out of Peter before he can think to stop time.
Peter has nothing he can truly do to harm Clark, and we have no real proof the body change power would work on Clark seeing as Kryptonian physiology is different than Human.

Even if Peter stops time, Clarks superspeed would continue to allow him to move around, and make use of his other powers

Originally posted by Prime#
Clark has already dealt with people who can phase in like Season 1 or 2.
KMC rules, with characters fighting to the best of there ability's Clark speediblitzes the hell out of Peter before he can think to stop time.
Peter has nothing he can truly do to harm Clark, and we have no real proof the body change power would work on Clark seeing as Kryptonian physiology is different than Human.

Even if Peter stops time, Clarks superspeed would continue to allow him to move around, and make use of his other powers

and the humans peter uses body exchange on have different physiology too than normal humans, that has nothing to d owith it

and did th epeople who could phase attempt to phase clarks brai nout like future peter can?

and yeah his other powers would be trumped by peters wh ocan still teleport even with time stopped