Future Peter vs. Smallville Clark

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yeah but theres CIS clark rarely uses speedbliz as a first move not to mention peter and hiro have been shown to stop time before speedsters/bullets him them (hiro froze time before and arrow hit him)

and the humans peter uses body exchange on have different physiology too than normal humans, that has nothing to d owith it

and did th epeople who could phase attempt to phase clarks brai nout like future peter can?

and yeah his other powers would be trumped by peters wh ocan still teleport even with time stopped

Um.. KMC rules mean CIS/PIS are turned off.

Let me put it like this Peter can put human's in other human's body's. Him putting Clark in someone elses body would be like putting a dog in a man's body, which maybe Peter can do, he just hasn't shown it yet.

And did you compare Hiro's timestop of arrows to Clark, um just so you know Clark is infinitly faster than an arrow. Clark has Peter outclassed inn every way.

BTW, Heroes is riddled with reaction time PIS, feats wise, Daphne should have speedblitzed the crap out of Hiro, but couldn't because of PIS. The best example of reaction time PIS though would have to be in the Season 1 finale when Matt Parkman tries to surprise Sylar and shoots at him 5 times. Sylar TK's the bullets before they hit him obviously, yet later in the episode, Hiro surpises Sylar charges and stabs him. Sylar fails to TK him.

So that mean Sylar can stop 5 bullets that he wasn't expecting, yet he can't stop a slightly overweight man screaming at the top of his lungs, charging at him with a sword. Ya that makes perfect sense

Originally posted by Prime#
Um.. KMC rules mean CIS/PIS are turned off.

Let me put it like this Peter can put human's in other human's body's. Him putting Clark in someone elses body would be like putting a dog in a man's body, which maybe Peter can do, he just hasn't shown it yet.

And did you compare Hiro's timestop of arrows to Clark, um just so you know Clark is infinitly faster than an arrow. Clark has Peter outclassed inn every way.

BTW, Heroes is riddled with reaction time PIS, feats wise, Daphne should have speedblitzed the crap out of Hiro, but couldn't because of PIS. The best example of reaction time PIS though would have to be in the Season 1 finale when Matt Parkman tries to surprise Sylar and shoots at him 5 times. Sylar TK's the bullets before they hit him obviously, yet later in the episode, Hiro surpises Sylar charges and stabs him. Sylar fails to TK him.

So that mean Sylar can stop 5 bullets that he wasn't expecting, yet he can't stop a slightly overweight man screaming at the top of his lungs, charging at him with a sword. Ya that makes perfect sense

Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

and she shouldnt have hiro has demonstratedclearly his time stop power is able to defend against her, peter who has master it would be even better.

and the first time hiro tried that sylar almost killed him (destroyed the sword and knock hiro to the ground)

what is clar ksupposed to that can put peter down anyway?

Um Punch his head of, HV him into oblivion, Throw him into orbit?

Originally posted by Prime#
Clark has already dealt with people who can phase in like Season 1 or 2.
KMC rules, with characters fighting to the best of there ability's Clark speediblitzes the hell out of Peter before he can think to stop time.
Peter has nothing he can truly do to harm Clark, and we have no real proof the body change power would work on Clark seeing as Kryptonian physiology is different than Human.

Even if Peter stops time, Clarks superspeed would continue to allow him to move around, and make use of his other powers

That's not Clark has dealt with someone who can phase, what does that have to do with Peter?

This isn't an episode of smallville.

I'm just saying, Clark at one point or another has dealt with people with a lot of the same powers as the cast of Heroes.

Originally posted by Prime#
Um Punch his head of, HV him into oblivion, Throw him into orbit?

and peter cna always teleport back...or seeing as he can fly it shouldnt be much of a problem, wit ha healing factor that saved him from being the dead center of nuclear explosion, clarks heat vision should be muc hof a problem, and ofcourse all of this is before peter can go intangible or freeze time right?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
CIS prevents him from punching his head off, hes fighting to the best of his ability, he isnt bloodlusted i ncharacter

and peter cna always teleport back...or seeing as he can fly it shouldnt be much of a problem, wit ha healing factor that saved him from being the dead center of nuclear explosion, clarks heat vision should be muc hof a problem, and ofcourse all of this is before peter can go intangible or freeze time right?

Freeze time doesn't really help Peter. Peter's nuclear doesn't work like that. He only extrudes heat, he doesn't fell any of it. Anyway, no way in hell Peter can survive space. let alone teleport back.

Originally posted by Prime#
Freeze time doesn't really help Peter. Peter's nuclear doesn't work like that. He only extrudes heat, he doesn't fell any of it. Anyway, no way in hell Peter can survive space. let alone teleport back.

peter isnt going to be standing there waiting for clark to hit himand I know his nuclear powesr dont work like that but claire took a nuclear explosion and was able to twalk ou fine (she neutralized it before it spread out to far)

1. If Clark hits Peter with enough force to send him into orbit, odds are he's going to be koed/or splattered seeing as he needs to focus to teleport, i doubt he'l be able to do that when he's hurtling towards space at 1000mph. And after how much momentum he gathers, there's no way he'd be able to stop himself. Besides that, on his way up he'd likely pass out from lack of oxygen considering he has human durability.

2. All Clark needs is one good hit

3. Claire never took a real nuke, a real nuclear explosion would have vaporized her completely

YouTube video

Originally posted by Prime#
1. If Clark hits Peter with enough force to send him into orbit, odds are he's going to be koed/or splattered seeing as he needs to focus to teleport, i doubt he'l be able to do that when he's hurtling towards space at 1000mph. And after how much momentum he gathers, there's no way he'd be able to stop himself. Besides that, on his way up he'd likely pass out from lack of oxygen considering he has human durability.

2. All Clark needs is one good hit

3. Claire never took a real nuke, a real nuclear explosion would have vaporized her completely

YouTube video

it shows the level of her healing factor

and yo ucan ko someone with a healing factor like peters, he would heal the head trauma and be fine in no time, and again CIS clark wouldnt kill another person

all he needs to do is close his eyes, i nfact his ability (as defined by mohinder) wil lactivate by itself because his adrenaline will be rushing, it doesnt require concentration.

peter stops time he becomes the faster of the two, and with peters versatility it would be near impossible for clar kto get a hit without peter phasing thorugh it and BFRing him by teleporting him into the future or into the past

in that video again cark didnt use a speed blitz he waited for bizarro to atack him twice, its CIS for him to wait apparently and given that peter stops time

A KO is still a win, if this fight was to the death Clark would also win. The fact of the matter is PIS turned off Clark would speedblitz Peter before he could think to freeze time, Clark has shown multiple times that he is capable and he has done it. For example, he heard Chloe in trouble while laying football, right before he was about to get tackled by another player, he went into speed mode, jogged to his friend, one shotted the person chasing her ran back to the exact place he was on the football field.

Peter still has human durability. Clark doesn't.

Feats wise Clark>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Heroes speedster who owned a timestoped Hiro, Hiro was only better than her because of teleportation.

Clark is just on a different level, besides, the preview of the next Heroes show

Spoiler:
Future Claire owning Future Peter with a gun

Spoiler:
Clark infinitly> Claire with a gun

I'm done argueing

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
except it didnt she walked thorugh it and neatrualized it before it and was in pieces

it shows the level of her healing factor

and yo ucan ko someone with a healing factor like peters, he would heal the head trauma and be fine in no time, and again CIS clark wouldnt kill another person

all he needs to do is close his eyes, i nfact his ability (as defined by mohinder) wil lactivate by itself because his adrenaline will be rushing, it doesnt require concentration.

peter stops time he becomes the faster of the two, and with peters versatility it would be near impossible for clar kto get a hit without peter phasing thorugh it and BFRing him by teleporting him into the future or into the past

in that video again cark didnt use a speed blitz he waited for bizarro to atack him twice, its CIS for him to wait apparently and given that peter stops time

Really? Then what happened to Peter when Elle hit him with the electricity? Oh thats right, he was knocked unconscious. Clark>>>>>>Elle.

Originally posted by Prime#
A KO is still a win, if this fight was to the death Clark would also win. The fact of the matter is PIS turned off Clark would speedblitz Peter before he could think to freeze time, Clark has shown multiple times that he is capable and he has done it. For example, he heard Chloe in trouble while laying football, right before he was about to get tackled by another player, he went into speed mode, jogged to his friend, one shotted the person chasing her ran back to the exact place he was on the football field.

Peter still has human durability. Clark doesn't.

Feats wise Clark>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Heroes speedster who owned a timestoped Hiro, Hiro was only better than her because of teleportation.

Clark is just on a different level, besides, the preview of the next Heroes show

Spoiler:
Future Claire owning Future Peter with a gun

I'm sorry but

Spoiler:
Clark infinitly> Claire with a gun

I'm done argueing

and what feats of speed does calrk have to put her above daphne?

Originally posted by snyper1982
Really? Then what happened to Peter when Elle hit him with the electricity? Oh thats right, he was knocked unconscious. Clark>>>>>>Elle.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
....peter was taking pills to surpress his powers

No... He wasn't. After she zapped him, they started giving him the pills.

Originally posted by snyper1982
No... He wasn't. After she zapped him, they started giving him the pills.

and a developed healing factor like claires, he shouldnt be able to feel pain either

but im still not sure how calrk would put him down wihout peter simply teleporting him to another time perdiod or sending him into the body of another person.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
last time I checked clark cant electricute peter, not to mention no form of physical trauma has been shown to put down people with the healing ability (save punching off the head)

and a developed healing factor like claires, he shouldnt be able to feel pain either

but im still not sure how calrk would put him down wihout peter simply teleporting him to another time perdiod or sending him into the body of another person.

Last time I checked, that wasn't what you stated. You stated that you can't ko someone with the healing ability. Well they can be ko'd. That was my only point. Clark does have heat vision... He doesn't have to get anywhere close to him to fry his head completely off.

I think clark takes it 7 or 8/10.

Originally posted by snyper1982
Last time I checked, that wasn't what you stated. You stated that you can't ko someone with the healing ability. Well they can be ko'd. That was my only point. Clark does have heat vision... He doesn't have to get anywhere close to him to fry his head completely off.

I think clark takes it 7 or 8/10.

Originally posted by Prime#

um just so you know Clark is infinitly faster than an arrow.

Um no.

Originally posted by Prime#

Clark has Peter outclassed inn every way.

Just no.

I'm leaning towards Clark winning, but making up bullsh1t is not the way to do it.

Originally posted by Prime#
A KO is still a win, if this fight was to the death Clark would also win. The fact of the matter is PIS turned off Clark would speedblitz Peter before he could think to freeze time, Clark has shown multiple times that he is capable and he has done it. For example, he heard Chloe in trouble while laying football, right before he was about to get tackled by another player, he went into speed mode, jogged to his friend, one shotted the person chasing her ran back to the exact place he was on the football field.

Peter still has human durability. Clark doesn't.

Feats wise Clark>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Heroes speedster who owned a timestoped Hiro, Hiro was only better than her because of teleportation.

Clark is just on a different level, besides, the preview of the next Heroes show

Spoiler:
Future Claire owning Future Peter with a gun

I'm sorry but

Spoiler:
Clark infinitly> Claire with a gun

I'm done argueing

and I hope yo urealize daphne and hiro had an entire conversation while everyone was frozen in time