PC Superman runs a Gauntlet

Started by Avlon18 pages
Originally posted by leonheartmm
clears it with ease.

👆

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nah. But I'll be happy to look at anything you have in the way of proof from a canon source since the respect thread doesn't qualify as such. And just so I know I'm not wasting my time on an inferior debater with shitty debating tactics, I won't be responding to you again until such proof is provided. Scans or issue numbers, not a link to the respect thread 🙂 .

Wow,
How rude! I believe you might take yourself too seriously. Anyway, have fun not responding to my "shitty" and "inferior" tactics. I see no need to resort to profanity and insults, but, whatever. I'm going to post to those scans, my computer's just really slow. Good things come to those who wait. Just read the respect thread until then.

Originally posted by tsscls
Wow,
How rude! I believe you might take yourself too seriously. Anyway, have fun not responding to my "shitty" and "inferior" tactics. I see no need to resort to profanity and insults, but, whatever. I'm going to post to those scans, my computer's just really slow. Good things come to those who wait. Just read the respect thread until then.

Material doesn't all of a sudden become non-canon just because you don't hand hold your opponent through a respect thread to find it.

If you pointed someone in the right direction, then you've done your job, after all, not everyone can afford to buy comics or read every issue. The whole "if you don't have the issue #, page, panel tactic" is an inferior debating tactic. If the proof is there then that's all there is to it.

Good luck with your debate.

Overcoming Red Sun Radiation.
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman24704gy4.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman24705ra9.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman24706ou4.jpg

overcoming radiation again, why couldn't he do this with K-nite?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=8783571

SS goes down hard. Who's next?

Originally posted by tsscls
overcoming radiation again, why couldn't he do this with K-nite?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=8783571

There is no proof that SS could even create K-nite, much less working K-nite. It's a fanboy myth.

Originally posted by tsscls
Overcoming Red Sun Radiation.
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman24704gy4.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman24705ra9.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman24706ou4.jpg
Originally posted by tsscls
overcoming radiation again, why couldn't he do this with K-nite?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=8783571

Neither of those are examples of him overcoming the radiation...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Neither of those are examples of him overcoming the radiation...

Why not? He overcame the radiation to get the job done. He even flew between red and yellow sun radiation waves. I'm not saying it's possible, but it's definitely a means of defense against someone who's shooting red sun or Krytponite radiation at you. Am I wrong?

Originally posted by tsscls
Why not? He overcame the radiation to get the job done. He even flew between red and yellow sun radiation waves. I'm not saying it's possible, but it's definitely a means of defense against someone who's shooting red sun or Krytponite radiation at you. Am I wrong?
He was able to do something while being weakened, and the other one had him using tricks to not overcome the weakness... just deal with a wave of radiation. How would this help against K-Nite?
How are these overcoming the weakness?

A means of defense... in a fight? Racing in front of tiny blasts of energy? 😐

He'd probably do better just avoiding it...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He was able to do something while being weakened, and the other one had him using tricks to not overcome the weakness... just deal with a wave of radiation. How would this help against K-Nite?
How are these overcoming the weakness?

A means of defense... in a fight? Racing in front of tiny blasts of energy? 😐

He'd probably do better just avoiding it...

Well, number one.
K-nite emits radiation that weakens Superman. I was asked to provide scans proving that he could deal with red sun and k-nite radiation. I feel those scans do just that. So he resorts to trickery? I guess Batman can't ever win a fight again.

2. Yeah I believe that a means of defense means that you could ultimately win a fight. So does every martial artist and military tactictian in the world.

3. I think he did avoid it by racing in between the wavelengths. I'm not justifying it, just reporting.

Originally posted by tsscls
SS goes down hard. Who's next?
let me call Bill Goldberg

Originally posted by tsscls
Well, number one.
K-nite emits radiation that weakens Superman. I was asked to provide scans proving that he could deal with red sun and k-nite radiation. I feel those scans do just that. So he resorts to trickery? I guess Batman can't ever win a fight again.

2. Yeah I believe that a means of defense means that you could ultimately win a fight. So does every martial artist and military tactictian in the world.

3. I think he did avoid it by racing in between the wavelengths. I'm not justifying it, just reporting.


Would that actually work in a fight though?
No, but you acted like he overcame the radiation (Ie, even though it hit him, he still managed to will through it), but what he actually did was get weakened by it (first scan), and then in the second one avoid the effects.

By zig zagging in front of small blasts? To me that seems like a terrible way to defend against something...

I mean avoiding as in not trying to zig zag in front of a small blast...

Alters radiation with his heat vision
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=8783766

An amped S-man reignites an orange sun (under which he's less powerful)
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sadya6.jpg

Towing planets across galaxies, which we all know have millions of red suns in them.
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view&current=Superboytowingplanets.jpg

Barring all that, he'd just go UFC on that ass.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view&current=supermannopowers.jpg

Bronze-Age depowered fighting a cosmic energy powered being.
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If you want to see more go here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=447673&pagenumber=1

These guys did all the hard work.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Would that actually work in a fight though?
No, but you acted like he overcame the radiation (Ie, even though it hit him, he still managed to will through it), but what he actually did was get weakened by it (first scan), and then in the second one avoid the effects.

By zig zagging in front of small blasts? To me that seems like a terrible way to defend against something...

I mean avoiding as in not trying to zig zag in front of a small blast...

Once again, I was just asked to provide proof that he could deal with Red Sun radiation. He obviously did.
"By zig zagging in front of small blasts? To me that seems like a terrible way to defend against something..."
I guess that dodging jabs is a bad defense in your mind, too? 😮‍💨

Originally posted by tsscls
I guess that dodging jabs is a bad defense in your mind, too? 😮‍💨
Are you serious?

Zig zagging into tiny blasts is the same as dodging a jab?

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Are you serious?

Zig zagging into tiny blasts is the same as dodging a jab?

No, zig-zagging between them is. That's what he was doing. Like I said before in this thread, I'm no Siver-Age Supes fan. Lazy writing and questionable physics were the norm. But he could beat nearly anyone below Spectre or LT.

Originally posted by tsscls
No, zig-zagging between them is. That's what he was doing. Like I said before in this thread, I'm no Siver-Age Supes fan. Lazy writing and questionable physics were the norm. But he could beat nearly anyone below Spectre or LT.
He wouldn't be zig zagging between them though following the scan, he'd be in front of it.

Uh... huh...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He wouldn't be zig zagging between them though following the scan, he'd be in front of it.

Uh... huh...

It says between them in the scan, but you can feel free to interpret it any way you see fit to justify your means.

Originally posted by tsscls
It says between them in the scan, but you can feel free to interpret it any way you see fit to justify your means.
Between the yellow sun radiation and the red sun radiation...

He was in front of the moving red sun radiation though (trying to block it from going to Earth).

Heh. I like how you followed your own advice... good stuff, good stuff.