Alexander Luthor Vs Dr. Doom

Started by Bentley4 pages
Originally posted by fangirl101
That's Like saying the Pre-Retconned beyonder is a one hit wonder And Eternity has been on top of the charts for 30 years. Some times a one hit makes a bigger impression and more sales than someone who's been around for a long time.

You think that Alexander Luthor has sold more issues than Doctor Doom?

zomfg

Originally posted by cloud102
True, but Alexander > Doom.
nope

Originally posted by fangirl101
That's Like saying the Pre-Retconned beyonder is a one hit wonder And Eternity has been on top of the charts for 30 years. Some times a one hit makes a bigger impression and more sales than someone who's been around for a long time.

True dat and Luthor isn't exactly new. He's been around PC. Alex > Doom.

Originally posted by cloud102
True dat and Luthor isn't exactly new. He's been around PC. Alex > Doom.
Huh? Alexander basically accomplished what he did by being isolated and characters not knowing about his continued existence and through Prime's help.

He got waxed in no time after he lost all of these advantages.

Doom>>Luthor. There isnt one-sided prep here.

We've seen him encounter other beings before and taking them out with no problem. Alex ftw.

Originally posted by cloud102
We've seen him encounter other beings before and taking them out with no problem. Alex ftw.
Which beings?

PC verse. He has taken down bricks like it was nothing. Of course he had his suite, but if he does, he could take Doom via matter manipulation or Anti-matter energy which could warp Doom's armor.

Even with prep, I see Luthor taking it. Much smarter. He basically laughed in regular Luthor's face. I know Doom is his superior, but it's not like it's by leaps and bounds.

Originally posted by fangirl101
That's Like saying the Pre-Retconned beyonder is a one hit wonder And Eternity has been on top of the charts for 30 years. Some times a one hit makes a bigger impression and more sales than someone who's been around for a long time.

Pre-recton Beyonder had numerous feats to his credit over two different story arcs to establish his power, thus he's not a one hit wonder. Alex did one thing that was really noteworthy through prep that took him a long time, was dependant on SBP, and it wasn't anything that would actually give him a win over Doom in prepped combat. Who cares if he recreates a multiverse through advanced scheming, it's not as if being in a new multiverse would give him the win in combat against whatever device Doom cooked up to attack him with directly.

Originally posted by cloud102
PC verse. He has taken down bricks like it was nothing. Of course he had his suite, but if he does, he could take Doom via matter manipulation or Anti-matter energy which could warp Doom's armor.

Even with prep, I see Luthor taking it. Much smarter. He basically laughed in regular Luthor's face. I know Doom is his superior, but it's not like it's by leaps and bounds.

Huh? Which bricks?

He laughed in regular Luthor's face because he had onesided prep. reg Luthor had him killed easily once he had time to figure things out. Luthor is vastly overrated and only accomplished this through Prime's help and onesided prep. Once they found out who he was he was picked off in the streets...easily.

It's not overrated. He orchestrated the whole thing, Prime just helped him to the physical stuff. I don't see anything in Doom's armor that would take out Alexander.

As far as I know villains always have one-sided prep, unless they announce their plans in advance like Kang, they try to use the surprise effect to their advantage.

Originally posted by cloud102
It's not overrated. He orchestrated the whole thing, Prime just helped him to the physical stuff. I don't see anything in Doom's armor that would take out Alexander.
Yes,it is. He had lots of help from Prime. Without him he died. Regular Luthor had him taken out.
Originally posted by Bentley
As far as I know villains always have one-sided prep, unless they announce their plans in advance like Kang, they try to use the surprise effect to their advantage.
The point is once Luthor found out who alex was he died very quickly. He didnt last long at all.

He wasn't exactly keeping his mind on Luthor. He's very arrogant. Just like Doom. What can Doom do to Luthor's armor? Seeing as Harbinger couldn't do squat.

Originally posted by cloud102
He wasn't exactly keeping his mind on Luthor. He's very arrogant. Just like Doom. What can Doom do to Luthor's armor? Seeing as Harbinger couldn't do squat.

Absorb all the power from the armor and from Alex himself...

Originally posted by cloud102
He wasn't exactly keeping his mind on Luthor. He's very arrogant. Just like Doom. What can Doom do to Luthor's armor? Seeing as Harbinger couldn't do squat.
Are you serious? You really think Doom cant defeat Luthor in his armor when he has stolen Galactus' power and temporarily defeated the Beyonder. Really?

Alex has greater tech and I don't see Doom absorbing all the Anti-matter in the suit. He can draw on limitless power from it. Didn't Doom job in the latest Avengers series? Not a good feat from someone who can just absorb power.

Alex has shown the similar power as well. Absorbing all types of multiversal energy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you serious? You really think Doom cant defeat Luthor in his armor when he has stolen Galactus' power and temporarily defeated the Beyonder. Really?

I think he could, but Alex would surely adapt better. Smarter, IMO.

Originally posted by cloud102
I think he could, but Alex would surely adapt better. Smarter, IMO.
Alex got killed on the streets. Doom has a whole country backing him and Doombots. Doom has survived how many years with the ff4 and the rest of the marvel u aware of his exploits. Luthor died instantly after his plans went to shit and the real Luthor figured him out.

If Luthor was smarter he wouldnt be dead. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes,it is. He had lots of help from Prime. Without him he died. Regular Luthor had him taken out. The point is once Luthor found out who alex was he died very quickly. He didnt last long at all.

Because Luthor had one-sided prep in that confrontation... And Alex was powerless.

Doom has his share of lost as well. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.