Originally posted by SnakeEyes
The "best movie ever" is entirely subjective. I'd say in terms of universal praise and whatnot, the most-listed "best movies ever" would be: Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Godfather, and The Shawshank Redemption.
Yeah, add Pulp Fiction to this list because many people consider it the "best movie ever." I don't, but it's damn popular/well-liked.
Perhaps.
But for the purpose of discussion I propose this method:
Process A
Where elements of a film's merit are of a subjective nature, we consider whether it has a demonstrated a *high capacity to appeal to the audience*.
If such an element does demonstrate a high capacity to appeal to the audience, then we grant it B status. Otherwise it retains A status.
B status > A status.
B status = B status
and Process B will always be used to seperate films of B status.
A status = A status
and Process B will always be used to seperate films of A status.
*How exactly this is determined can be decided at a later time.*
Process B
Where Process A is concerned with elements of subjectivity, Process B is concerned with elements of objectivity. Process B involves an objective analysis of a given film's merits.
Process C
Upon the completion of Process A and Process B, Process C is concerned with comparisons determined by evaluation. The merits of the individual components of a film will be determined by Processes A and B, and Process C will be concerned with evaluating the significance of the individual components with respect to what it means for the film it forms a part of, and what it means with respect to the medium as a whole (which may also be analysed in this process).
Thoughts?
Has to be per genre, not overall - there are too many different elements to try and fit into one film.
For me, the list would be sorta like:
Scifi:
The Matrix
Inspiring drama:
Dead Poets' Society
Shakespeare:
Midsummer Night's Dream
Romantic comedy:
Roseanna's Grave
Comedy:
Groundhog Day
Marvel superhero:
Iron Man
DC superhero:
Batman Begins
Classic DC superhero:
Superman
Action comedy:
The Last Boy Scout
Psychological thriller:
Silence of the Lambs
Dark action:
The Crow
Documentary:
Amandla
etc...
I can pick a Best Of per genre, but overall? There are just too many elements to take into consideration, and no film that I can think of contains everything, from humour, to action, to beautiful scenery, to great acting, to great soundtrack, to an important message, plus special effects, etc...
Yeah that is a nice list,The only thing I would change is The original Star Wars movie from 1977 as best sci fi film.I also noticed that Drama wasnt mentioned so that being the case.I would add for Drama-JFK unless maybe you would put that in documentary since its mostly based on evidence and facts.