Thanos(Before he Died) vs Seth

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes but in what way? I've never heard it explained. Seth held his own vs an amnesiac Odin. As soon as Odin regained his full power and senses, Seth was crushed.

Thanos went to Asgard to get Odin's HELP to cure Thor. He didn't go there with the intention of leveling the place. Odin was in his right mind and had his full abilities in the very seat of his power.

At his right mind, his feats there was a mid-end feat. He was throwing asteroids at Thanos. He wasn't doing anything comparable to his fight with Seth.

People see the Odin/Thanos fight and say "LOL look Thanos couldn't hurt Odin!". It's more a durability feat for Thanos. An enraged Odin, remember he thought Thanos imprisoned/attacked Thor for no reason, was beating on Thanos. Odin was even about to "mourn for such a valiant foe" or whatever but Thanos told him to "save the eulogy for when the body cools".

Thanos wasn't backing off or running away.

Thanos wasn't backing off from Galactus either. It still didn't mean he wasn't getting his ass handed to him.

Uhm we don't know what Tyrant does to the powers he puts in those orbs. Thanos was holding on to that Orb as if his life depended on it. You'll even notice that after the beating Thanos took, his clothes were torn but the hand holding the Orb still has it's glove intact. The scan proves Thanos was in a panic and reached for the Orb to hold off Tyrant.

That orb stores their power. It's nothing more. If you want to say it does, then prove that he did something to them.

But when Tyrant got annoyed, even that Orb wasn't going to save Thanos and he tped away.

And it's nothing about "his eyes being black" look at his brow. The expression is one of concern. As soon as he succeeds in reaching the Orb he smiles and blasts Tyrant with it.

His brow? You mean those horn things on his head? What brow?

That orb has Morg's power. He was there to challenge himself. That was the whole point. He was using the orb to beat up Tyrant as to mock him. It's not a power up for Thanos. Nowhere does it indicate the orb does anything for his power.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He went down for a couple of panels. If anything, all Tyrant did was knock him away for the fight. You do know what one-shotting someone is right? Odin one-shot KOed Surfer; Tyrant swatted him away for a couple of panels then had to deal with Surfer again - not the same thing. Tyrant's eye beam dazed Gladiator. Odin's one blast KOed Drax for the entire fight.

Woke up? Where did you have him down the first time and not simply blasted away? The only time he was down was after Tyrant attacked him a second time.

WTF are smoking? Surfer is the strongest one there and Odin one-shot koed him out the entire fight. Everybody on your list wouldn't fare any better.

JOH - WTF? Don't even joke about this.
Morg & Terrax - Surfer level at best
Gladiator & Beta Ray Bill - Get trashed. Gladiator was on his knees begging Odin to stop Thor before the Reigning began. BRB gets his power from Odin. And both's durability are below Thanos. Not that far above Surfer if above at all.

And your list leaves out Thanos. Remember how Thanos smacked Tyrant around and then laughed out Tyrant when he tried to threaten Thanos? Thanos never once moved Odin even when he tried.

Tyrant is so powerful that Thanos smacked him around and then stole his orb. Tyrant is so powerful that his claim fame is nothing more then turning Galactus' tech against him, but without tech around fails to take down Thanos. lol How can a skyfather like Odin who wrecks galaxies at his best, beats down hell lords, and a true slayer of head gods compare to Tyrant?

I like how you act as if Galactus was more prepped against Tyrant when Tyrant had thousands of years to prep against Galactus and did use it to his advantage.

Here are the facts... Surfer attacked Tyrant and it did NOTHING to him. Tyrant swatted him away and he was gone for a few panels. If he wasn't out.. then why wasn't he shown attacking Tyrant again or in the background waiting to attack. I'll tell you why because he was temp. out of the fight. He came back and got ONE shot again and out cold for good this time.

Glads has better durability than Drax imo... Regardless, they were going eye beam for eye beam... Which Tyrant clearly won which dazed Glads.. but as you know it wasn't a direct eye bem to glads chest.. Glads own eye beam was in front of Glads.. So the fact that this didn't one shot him isn't a surprise. However, then Tyrant gets close and ONE SHOTS him.

I honestly expected more from you WWK. I can't believe you're claiming it's even close in competition on who they faced... Glads & BRB certainly take up well against surfer. Same with Morg. Terrax and JOH not so much but they are still heralds. The point is being uneffected by and one shotting BRB, Glads, Morg, JoH, Terrax and Gay & Surfer poops all over just One shotting Surfer and Drax.

There battle against Thanos makes it even more clear that Tyrant is more powerful. Thanos was using an orb to blast Tyrant which was an increase to his blasting power.. even if a small one. He BACKED DOWN and ADMITTED TRYANT WOULD KILL HIM if he stayed. He did NO such thing when facing Odin. He never once thought about backing down or leaving. Against Tyrant he knew he couldn't stick around once Tyrant got serious. How of God's Green Earth can you say Thanos doesn't back down... He backed down against Galactus after his shields were broken yet you say he didn't WTF. Anyways, Thanos makes it more clear Tyrant is more powerful than Odin.

The kicker and what you can't get around is Galactus. Remember when "galactus" one shot and punked Odin with ease? Now compare that to when he faced Tyrant. HE BACKED DOWN from Tyrant the first time they encounter each other. Don't act like the only reason Tyrant won was because he was using Tech against Galactus. Galactus KNEW Tyrant was a threat and backed down. He rarely if ever backs down and is usually condecending to people he meets who challenge him. Lets not forget that they exchanged blows and blasts BEFORE Galactus decides to bring out the tech. Lets also not forget that Galactus own blasts were making Tyrant stronger... so tech or nor tech Galactus was in serious trouble. This alone with all the above shows Tyrant to be Odin's superior.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
At his right mind, his feats there was a mid-end feat. He was throwing asteroids at Thanos. He wasn't doing anything comparable to his fight with Seth.

And what was he shown doing vs Seth exactly? Bearhugging? Irony is he was shown doing MORE vs Thanos than Seth.

Thanos wasn't backing off from Galactus either. It still didn't mean he wasn't getting his ass handed to him.

Thanos was begging for his life before Galactus' assault. He wasn't even groaning in pain vs Odin.

That orb stores their power. It's nothing more. If you want to say it does, then prove that he did something to them.

Why would he bother putting it in the orbs in the first place and storing it for later? If it's only Morg's power, it's as NOHTING before him. Since he literally one shotted Morg's ass. Why was Thanos reaching for it as if his life depended on it? Why was the only time he made Tyrant groan in pain was when he was using it as a weapon against him?

See below...

His brow? You mean those horn things on his head? What brow?

Look at how his brow is arching. It's a look of concern. He was trembling to reach the Orb. The picture is right there.

That orb has Morg's power. He was there to challenge himself. That was the whole point. He was using the orb to beat up Tyrant as to mock him. It's not a power up for Thanos. Nowhere does it indicate the orb does anything for his power. [/B]

Morg's power? Compare blasts :

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to the one in my previous post with Thanos blasting him with the Orb.

Look at him bludgeoning Tyrant with it :

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Wait are people saying the orb contained Morgs power? if so thats wrong Tyrant gave him back all his power before he set him free just before he faced down Thanos/Ganymede.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Here are the facts... Surfer attacked Tyrant and it did NOTHING to him. Tyrant swatted him away and he was gone for a few panels. If he wasn't out.. then why wasn't he shown attacking Tyrant again or in the background waiting to attack. I'll tell you why because he was temp. out of the fight. He came back and got ONE shot again and out cold for good this time.

It's because he was busy fighting Tyrant's Drones after getting blasted away. He was never knocked out. Everybody there was busy fighting the Drones and Tyrant. Morg and Terrax were busy fighting each other.

Pages 24-26. Surfer was never knocked out.

Here's Surfer getting one-shotted again...oh never mind. LMAO, Ganymede managed to hurt him.

Finally, Tyrant manages to one-sho...three-shot Surfer. Good for him.

Glads has better durability than Drax imo... Regardless, they were going eye beam for eye beam... Which Tyrant clearly won which dazed Glads.. but as you know it wasn't a direct eye bem to glads chest.. Glads own eye beam was in front of Glads.. So the fact that this didn't one shot him isn't a surprise. However, then Tyrant gets close and ONE SHOTS him.

So Gladiator's eye beam is enough to slow down Tyrant's own eye beam. Some threat to Odin that Tyrant.

Here's Tyrant failing to put down Jack of Hearts. Lol. JOH manages to self destruct and free the heroes after. Really impressive that Tyrant. After draining that group of heralds and had those heroes fight through his drones, he's pretty impressive.

I honestly expected more from you WWK. I can't believe you're claiming it's even close in competition on who they faced... Glads & BRB certainly take up well against surfer. Same with Morg. Terrax and JOH not so much but they are still heralds. The point is being uneffected by and one shotting BRB, Glads, Morg, JoH, Terrax and Gay & Surfer poops all over just One shotting Surfer and Drax.

Look at Terrax and Morg "fighting" Tyrant.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

There battle against Thanos makes it even more clear that Tyrant is more powerful. Thanos was using an orb to blast Tyrant which was an increase to his blasting power.. even if a small one. He BACKED DOWN and ADMITTED TRYANT WOULD KILL HIM if he stayed. He did NO such thing when facing Odin. He never once thought about backing down or leaving. Against Tyrant he knew he couldn't stick around once Tyrant got serious. How of God's Green Earth can you say Thanos doesn't back down... He backed down against Galactus after his shields were broken yet you say he didn't WTF. Anyways, Thanos makes it more clear Tyrant is more powerful than Odin.

Luckily for Thanos, BRB came and intervened because Odin would've trashed him even further. Nobody came and intervened in his fight with Tyrant. Just because he didn't say quite means nothing because he did nothing to Odin. His power is not even comparable. Let's not play games.

Thanos came for a challenge and did not care about death because she no longer wants him.

Tyrant questions his sanity to which he replies they have called him Mad enough. Tyrant says he's without equal to which Thanos replies prove it.

Tyrant is surprise that Thanos lives.

Tyrant says he's going to change that. Thanos says probably but he's proved to himself that he could stand up to Tyrant. Tyrant is furious that he dares to take his orb to which Thanos replies yes and leaves. Again, Thanos doesn't care about death. He had his victory and left. This is no different than when he fought WM Thor and left to grab that gun because he got bored.

The kicker and what you can't get around is Galactus. Remember when "galactus" one shot and punked Odin with ease? Now compare that to when he faced Tyrant. HE BACKED DOWN from Tyrant the first time they encounter each other. Don't act like the only reason Tyrant won was because he was using Tech against Galactus. Galactus KNEW Tyrant was a threat and backed down. He rarely if ever backs down and is usually condecending to people he meets who challenge him. Lets not forget that they exchanged blows and blasts BEFORE Galactus decides to bring out the tech. Lets also not forget that Galactus own blasts were making Tyrant stronger... so tech or nor tech Galactus was in serious trouble. This alone with all the above shows Tyrant to be Odin's superior.

When did Galactus one shot punked Odin with ease? Book number please.

As for Tyrant, he left Tyrant alone because he did not want to fight at that time and neither did Tyrant. Tyrant even seeked to hide from Galactus longer. The only reason Galactus choose not to fight was because he did not want the collateral damage so he chose to leave Morg with Tyrant. He even tells Surfer that he'll handle things at the time of "his choosing". Tyrant knows Galactus would kick his ass. Even Galactus says that it's unthinkable that Tyrant would win. Galactus didn't want to fight at the time due to the casualties despite him being the superior being; Tyrant didn't want to fight because he need more time to prepare before such a confrontation but will fight here if he must. The guy had eons to prepare and still wanted to avoid fighting Galactus unless he has to. Lol

Originally posted by zopzop
And what was he shown doing vs Seth exactly? Bearhugging? Irony is he was shown doing MORE vs Thanos than Seth.

Thanos was begging for his life before Galactus' assault. He wasn't even groaning in pain vs Odin.

Doing more what? Throwing asteroids at Thanos? WTF? He was wrecking galaxies as a side effect and shaking the multiverse. They're battle was across different planes of existence and felt space. How do you have it that he did more against Thanos?

Why would he bother putting it in the orbs in the first place and storing it for later? If it's only Morg's power, it's as NOHTING before him. Since he literally one shotted Morg's ass. Why was Thanos reaching for it as if his life depended on it? Why was the only time he made Tyrant groan in pain was when he was using it as a weapon against him?

He doesn't care about his life. It doesn't matter. Did you read the book? He was there for a challenge.

You mean like when Ganymede kicked him in the face and he groaned in pain? Ganymede kick > Thanos

Look at how his brow is arching. It's a look of concern. He was trembling to reach the Orb. The picture is right there.

Morg's power? Compare blasts :

to the one in my previous post with Thanos blasting him with the Orb.

Look at him bludgeoning Tyrant with it :

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Go read the rest of the post above. He was there for a challenge and stole the orb to get Tyrant to fight him. That orb doesn't power him up. He used it to beat Tyrant around to show Tyrant that he can and would challenge Tyrant because is Thanos, the Mad Titan. Tyrant is the one that's astonished that Thanos could hold up to him. Where is there any indication on narration, Tyrant, or Thanos that the orb gave him any power ups? He's using it to simply mock Tyrant and beat him around with his trophy.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Doing more what? Throwing asteroids at Thanos? WTF? He was wrecking galaxies as a side effect and shaking the multiverse. They're battle was across different planes of existence and felt space. How do you have it that he did more against Thanos?

He doesn't care about his life. It doesn't matter. Did you read the book? He was there for a challenge.

You mean like when Ganymede kicked him in the face and he groaned in pain? Ganymede kick > Thanos

Go read the rest of the post above. He was there for a challenge and stole the orb to get Tyrant to fight him. That orb doesn't power him up. He used it to beat Tyrant around to show Tyrant that he can and would challenge Tyrant because is Thanos, the Mad Titan. Tyrant is the one that's astonished that Thanos could hold up to him. Where is there any indication on narration, Tyrant, or Thanos that the orb gave him any power ups? He's using it to simply mock Tyrant and beat him around with his trophy.

And yet the the Orb's blasts and attacks made Tyrant flinch not Thanos' blasts. The Orb as another poster pointed out WAS NOT MORG'S POWER. He had already had his power returned before this.

When Tyrant was about to put his foot down, Thanos fled. Smiling that he had Tyrant's "prize", Tyrant opens up a portal and reveals that Thanos' "prize" was nothing. Tyrant had an Entire room full of power orbs. He was palming on big ass one.

PS, where on panel in that Seth/Odin fight are galaxies being destroyed? All I see is narrator hyperbole and a man bearhug. At least in the Thanos/Odin throw down we see Odin actually doing something ON PANEL.

PSS Ganymede is MILLIONS (BILLIONS) of years old, if she was around during the first Galactus/Tyrant throw down. Her "power staff" hit him in the face as she kicked him. We don't knwo what kind of abilities her staff has. Hell, Ganymede is OLDER than all the current batch of Earth Gods.

Originally posted by zopzop
And yet the the Orb's blasts and attacks made Tyrant flinch not Thanos' blasts. The Orb as another poster pointed out WAS NOT MORG'S POWER. He had already had his power returned before this.

That's funny because Thanos ask Tyrant's computer to find Morg's orb in the next book following Morg's restoration of power. Restoring Morg's power doesn't mean giving it all back.

When Tyrant was about to put his foot down, Thanos fled. Smiling that he had Tyrant's "prize", Tyrant opens up a portal and reveals that Thanos' "prize" was nothing. Tyrant had an Entire room full of power orbs. He was palming on big ass one.

Tyrant already put his foot down and failed to put Thanos down. He threatened Thanos and demanded it back to which Thanos smiled and ignored him. That prize is everything because it symbolizes Thanos taking Tyrant's possession. It not being the greatest prize doesn't mean jack. Tyrant wanted Thanos to give him back that orb and Thanos gladly replied by using it to smack Tyrant's face around. The prize was surviving a conflict with Tyrant to which he did.

PS, where on panel in that Seth/Odin fight are galaxies being destroyed? All I see is narrator hyperbole and a man bearhug. At least in the Thanos/Odin throw down we see Odin actually doing something ON PANEL.

Lol. So basically FP Tyrant and Galactus' fight never destroyed galaxies either right? Because it's just hyperbole too. I mean it's Odin we're talking about, it's not like he's done this type of feat before...except against Forsung and Infinity. Oh and that Surtur guy who destroyed Beta Ray Bill's galaxy to forge the Twilight Sword, a weapon that was meant to prevent Odin from growing in size to access his full might to fight Surtur.

A fight in the realm of Asgard that can be seen even on Earth.

PSS Ganymede is MILLIONS (BILLIONS) of years old, if she was around during the first Galactus/Tyrant throw down. Her "power staff" hit him in the face as she kicked him. We don't knwo what kind of abilities her staff has. Hell, Ganymede is OLDER than all the current batch of Earth Gods.

Who says? When she was awaken, about a millenia had pasted. There's no indication she's millions of years old. The went into cryo because they had no purpose left. If anything, Galactus and Tyrant's war had only been a couple of millenia's before present time. And what does that have to do with anything. Being old means jack. Are you trying to argue that Ganymede's age means she's more powerful than Thanos or Morg? Her kick made him groan in pain.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
That's funny because Thanos ask Tyrant's computer to find Morg's orb in the next book following Morg's restoration of power. Restoring Morg's power doesn't mean giving it all back.

So you're telling me a fraction of Morg's power, since he was restored, was doing more than Thanos himself blasting Tyrant? No one knows what's up with those Orbs. That's why Thanos stole one to study them.

Tyrant already put his foot down and failed to put Thanos down. He threatened Thanos and demanded it back to which Thanos smiled and ignored him. That prize is everything because it symbolizes Thanos taking Tyrant's possession. It not being the greatest prize doesn't mean jack. Tyrant wanted Thanos to give him back that orb and Thanos gladly replied by using it to smack Tyrant's face around. The prize was surviving a conflict with Tyrant to which he did.

Thanos TPED AWAY as Tyrant was about to stomp him. He NEVER tped away from Odin during their throw down. Thanos himself states, he's sure Tyrant would back up his claim if given a chance. Hence why he TPed away.

Lol. So basically FP Tyrant and Galactus' fight never destroyed galaxies either right? Because it's just hyperbole too. I mean it's Odin we're talking about, it's not like he's done this type of feat before...except against Forsung and Infinity. Oh and that Surtur guy who destroyed Beta Ray Bill's galaxy to forge the Twilight Sword, a weapon that was meant to prevent Odin from growing in size to access his full might to fight Surtur.

The Infinitus thing was RETCONNED in the Cosmos in Collision story arc in Quasar no?

Was it actually stated on panel that Surtur wrecked that galaxy? I find it hard to believe a guy that couldn't put down Ymir convincingly is tearing up a galaxy.

A fight in the realm of Asgard that can be seen even on Earth.

Yes. Your point? Asgard is POCKET dimension tied to Earth.

Who says? When she was awaken, about a millenia had pasted. There's no indication she's millions of years old. The went into cryo because they had no purpose left. If anything, Galactus and Tyrant's war had only been a couple of millenia's before present time. And what does that have to do with anything. Being old means jack. Are you trying to argue that Ganymede's age means she's more powerful than Thanos or Morg? Her kick made him groan in pain.

A) She was using HER frame of reference for time. How far away is her galaxy from ours? The farther away from us you go, the OLDER the object. So a millenia ago, HER TIME, is pretty fuggin' old.

B) Her STAFF caused him pain. We don't know what tech she's packing. Her race is ancient if they were around during the Tyrant/Galactus face off.

Originally posted by zopzop
So you're telling me a fraction of Morg's power, since he was restored, was doing more than Thanos himself blasting Tyrant? No one knows what's up with those Orbs. That's why Thanos stole one to study them.

Lol. The first assault? The orb was already in his right hand prior too that. You obviously don't know what's up with those orbs because you didn't pay close enough attention to the story. Morg's orb is separate from everybody else's orb. It's his orb that Thanos asked for and its' that orb that the got info from Tyrant's computer. Yeah, Thanos stole it to study and used his prize to beat Tyrant around, proving to Tyrant and himself that he could do so. It didn't amp him.

Thanos TPED AWAY as Tyrant was about to stomp him. He NEVER tped away from Odin during their throw down. Thanos himself states, he's sure Tyrant would back up his claim if given a chance. Hence why he TPed away.

He never teleported away because BRB intervened from the kicking Odin was going to give him further. He teleported away from Tyrant because he completed his challenge, which is to survive a fight with Tyrant. He did so and left with his prize. Thanos mocked Tyrant that he sure could back up his claim but that Thanos was going to take his prize. Tyrant questions Thanos' dare of taking what belong to Tyrant, to which Thanos replied I do and leaves. Tyrant didn't do anything about it. So sad.

The Infinitus thing was RETCONNED in the Cosmos in Collision story arc in Quasar no?

It was retconned into Odin's darkside tapping into Infinity herself. And that Odin's goodside fought to stop it. In otherwords, the cosmos was shaken up as shown in the book because Odin's darkside tapped into the abstract's power.

Was it actually stated on panel that Surtur wrecked that galaxy? I find it hard to believe a guy that couldn't put down Ymir convincingly is tearing up a galaxy.

Yes. And even shown on panel.

Wrecking the cosmos.

Yes. Your point? Asgard is POCKET dimension tied to Earth.

Accessible by means of teleportation from Earth. Their fight was on different planes of existence and reached through dimension barriers and can be seen and felt by those on Earth. That's the power level being used.

A) She was using HER frame of reference for time. How far away is her galaxy from ours? The farther away from us you go, the OLDER the object. So a millenia ago, HER TIME, is pretty fuggin' old.

B) Her STAFF caused him pain. We don't know what tech she's packing. Her race is ancient if they were around during the Tyrant/Galactus face off.

So either her foot/shoes has tech or it being billions of years old some makes her more power than Thanos right?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Lol. The first assault? The orb was already in his right hand prior too that. You obviously don't know what's up with those orbs because you didn't pay close enough attention to the story. Morg's orb is separate from everybody else's orb. It's his orb that Thanos asked for and its' that orb that the got info from Tyrant's computer. Yeah, Thanos stole it to study and used his prize to beat Tyrant around, proving to Tyrant and himself that he could do so. It didn't amp him.

Thanos blasted him under his own power, Tyrant didn't even flinch. Thanos blasts him with the Orb, Tyrant groans in pain. Morg ins't on the level of power as either Thanos or Tyrant. Hell when Tyrant fought Morg, he downed him without breaking a sweat. Now you want me to believe a fraction of Morg's power that was in that Orb > Morg?

He never teleported away because BRB intervened from the kicking Odin was going to give him further. He teleported away from Tyrant because he completed his challenge, which is to survive a fight with Tyrant. He did so and left with his prize. Thanos mocked Tyrant that he sure could back up his claim but that Thanos was going to take his prize. Tyrant questions Thanos' dare of taking what belong to Tyrant, to which Thanos replied I do and leaves. Tyrant didn't do anything about it. So sad.

He never teleported away because he didn't fear Odin like he did Tyrant. Look at Thanos clothing, barely singed while fighting Odin all tore up while battling Tyrant. In the fight with Tyrant, take a look especially at the hand HOLDING the Orb. The glove is undamaged.

It was retconned into Odin's darkside tapping into Infinity herself. And that Odin's goodside fought to stop it. In otherwords, the cosmos was shaken up as shown in the book because Odin's darkside tapped into the abstract's power.

Excellent so it wasn't Odin's power at all. Good to know.

Yes. And even shown on panel.

Again. I don't see Surtur wrecking a distant galaxy. If anything he was taking advantage of it's impending doom to forge his sword.

Did you ever stop and think : What would a Norse being be doing in a distant galaxy? Who is/was worshiping him there? Muspel is a pocket dimension connected to Earth.

Wrecking the cosmos.

This is very debatable. On other boards, I don't know if we're allowed to link to them, the vast majority doubt a galaxy was being wrecked. Let alone the cosmos.

Accessible by means of teleportation from Earth. Their fight was on different planes of existence and reached through dimension barriers and can be seen and felt by those on Earth. That's the power level being used.

Tied CLOSELY to Earth. Since the Gods draw power from their worshipers ON EARTH. When the Celestials punked Odin and crew, they threatened to cut off the links between their worlds and Earth and the Gods panicked. Earth and the pocket dimensions associated with the Earth Pantheon are closely linked together. So battles tend to spill over. Big deal. The highest level of powers that were concerned with the Seth/Odin slapfest was : Dr. Strange and the Silver Surfer. No Watchers, no Celestials, no Living Tribunal, nothing.

So either her foot/shoes has tech or it being billions of years old some makes her more power than Thanos right? [/B]

You're just being difficult now, you can CLEARLY see in the pic, HER STAFF WAS ALL UP IN HIS GRILL. We don't know what sort of tech she has access to. Her race is OLDER than the freaking current pantheon of gods on Earth.

whats so hard to bealive?
seth shaked the universe in his battle with odin surfer even paused and suprised by the level of power, if you call that hyperbole then galactus and tyrants fight was hyperbole also
surtur is also a galaxy buster ,ymir is roughly on par with that
odin held his own againts his dark half that was tapping into a fraction of infinity power

the point is, thanos doesnt have that much raw power he just has a great durability

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
[B]whats so hard to bealive?
seth shaked the universe in his battle with odin surfer even paused and suprised by the level of power, if you call that hyperbole then galactus and tyrants fight was hyperbole also
surtur is also a galaxy buster ,ymir is roughly on par with that
odin held his own againts his dark half that was tapping into a fraction of infinity power

He (Surfer) was "floating high above the earth". He wasn't in some distant galaxy or off in another dimension. Everyone that "Felt the multiverse tremble" was conspicuously on Earth. No one higher up on the Cosmic Hierarchy than the Surfer even took notice of it.

See my posts on the Tiamut vs Galactus thread, I said that I believe Thanos was engaging in hyperbole about the Tyrant/Galactus fight. Galactus said that if he and Tyrant (even DP Tyrant) threw down, the universe would be laid to waste. Well they threw down and I didn't even see planets being shattered. Did you?

The Top 3 Skyfathers couldn't budge Arshiem, the Destroyer armor with Odin and all the Asgardians couldn't dent Arshiem. Hell the Destroyer vs Celestials fight didn't even rock the Earth. But you are trying to tell me Seth/Odin rocked the multiverse?

Seth bragged that "no power in the universe" could stop him. You telling me you believe that?

the point is, thanos doesnt have that much raw power he just has a great durability

I'm not arguing this. In fact NO ONE is arguing the Odin/Thanos fight was anything but a durability feat for Thanos. Did Thanos even wince or groan in pain while taking brutal punishment from Odin? Refresh my memory because I think the answer is : no.

Originally posted by Bentley
Seth seems way more impressive.

I cant believe this thread lasted this long....

Anyone with common f**king sense that read the fight between Odin and Thanos knows that Odin beat Thanos down...

Seth actually managed to harm Odin while Thanos couldnt do jack but get him face beat in; Seth kicks Thanos's teeth in 10/10...

Originally posted by zopzop
He (Surfer) was "floating high above the earth". He wasn't in some distant galaxy or off in another dimension. Everyone that "Felt the multiverse tremble" was conspicuously on Earth. No one higher up on the Cosmic Hierarchy than the Surfer even took notice of it.

Originally posted by zopzop
The Top 3 Skyfathers couldn't budge Arshiem, the Destroyer armor with Odin and all the Asgardians couldn't dent Arshiem. Hell the Destroyer vs Celestials fight didn't even rock the Earth. But you are trying to tell me Seth/Odin rocked the multiverse?

2. thor did much better than odin zeus and vishnu he was fighting celestials and tanking blast from them and even injuring them

3. thor was giving odin a hell of alot of trouble in that issue and odin had a hard time putting thor down

we can just call that comic bullshit, or just accept thor and silver surfer are more powerful than skyfathers

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos blasted him under his own power, Tyrant didn't even flinch. Thanos blasts him with the Orb, Tyrant groans in pain. Morg ins't on the level of power as either Thanos or Tyrant. Hell when Tyrant fought Morg, he downed him without breaking a sweat. Now you want me to believe a fraction of Morg's power that was in that Orb > Morg?

No it wasn't. Actually, the orb is in his left hand (my mistake saying on the right) and on the next page he's blasting with his left hand. He was still using the orb in his first attack. So you're using every time Morg uses his power's, he's putting his entire power essence into each blast and not a fraction of it? Morg's orb is the prize because Morg, being the current servant of Galactus, is a symbolic value to Tyrant. The story center's around that. Nowhere does it say it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos asked Tyrant's computer for the location of Morg's orb. Prove it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos all seem to do was channel his power though the orb for blast and used it as a bludgeoning tool. He's got not amp and there's never been anything to confirm he had an amp. Essentially you're arguing he came their looking for Morg's orb and knew Morg's orb was going to amp him up enough to fight Tyrant. Except when he gets there he happens to fight an orb that's not Morg's and uses it to amp himself up to beat around Tyrant right? Then he goes to claim his prize and proclaim that he survived a conflict. No where does anyone make any indication the orb amped him but you want to claim that huh? Lol.

He never teleported away because he didn't fear Odin like he did Tyrant. Look at Thanos clothing, barely singed while fighting Odin all tore up while battling Tyrant. In the fight with Tyrant, take a look especially at the hand HOLDING the Orb. The glove is undamaged.

So he feared Tyrant? He mocks Tyrant and told him he didn't care about death because he's been there. Tyrant called him mad for challenging and Thanos replied he has been told that enough lately. Tyrant threatens him for trying to steal from him and Thanos simply that he does dare and takes his prize with him. What's there to fear for someone who's been to death's realm before? What's Tyrant going to do? He came there to survive a figh and did, so he left.

Excellent so it wasn't Odin's power at all. Good to know.

It was Odin who fought and his darkside that was tapping into Infinity. He beat his darkside tapping into one of the major aspect of the universe, good to know indeed.

Again. I don't see Surtur wrecking a distant galaxy. If anything he was taking advantage of it's impending doom to forge his sword.

WTF? He's the one that destroyed the burning galaxy. In another book, Odin even states that Surtur destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. The Korbinites fleed their galaxy because Surtur had destroyed it. Even in the first page scan, the last panel is a picture of Beta Ray Bill before and after he got Stormbreaker.

http://marvel.com/universe/Twilight_Sword

Did you ever stop and think : What would a Norse being be doing in a distant galaxy? Who is/was worshiping him there? Muspel is a pocket dimension connected to Earth.

Lol. You do know that you can cross through into regular space from Asgard's realm right? But Earth is connected to the Norse's through means of teleportation. They're not next to each other.

Did you ever stop to read these books or even just pull up their bio?

This is very debatable. On other boards, I don't know if we're allowed to link to them, the vast majority doubt a galaxy was being wrecked. Let alone the cosmos.

That's funny because I could point to this board, CBR, and Herochat and say they don't doubt that at all.

Tied CLOSELY to Earth. Since the Gods draw power from their worshipers ON EARTH. When the Celestials punked Odin and crew, they threatened to cut off the links between their worlds and Earth and the Gods panicked. Earth and the pocket dimensions associated with the Earth Pantheon are closely linked together. So battles tend to spill over. Big deal. The highest level of powers that were concerned with the Seth/Odin slapfest was : Dr. Strange and the Silver Surfer. No Watchers, no Celestials, no Living Tribunal, nothing.

Arishem threatened to cut their link off to Earth and set their realms on fire. Battles tend to spill over? What battle spilled over? You want to name a fight that did spill over like that? Thanos' fight with Odin? WTF? If that was a slapfest, I guess Odin was just bitchsmacking Thanos and there really was no fight because it was a stomping.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ? You have a habit of being wrong.

You have the habit of thinking you're right ermm