Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
No it wasn't. Actually, the orb is in his left hand (my mistake saying on the right) and on the next page he's blasting with his left hand. He was still using the orb in his first attack. So you're using every time Morg uses his power's, he's putting his entire power essence into each blast and not a fraction of it? Morg's orb is the prize because Morg, being the current servant of Galactus, is a symbolic value to Tyrant. The story center's around that. Nowhere does it say it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos asked Tyrant's computer for the location of Morg's orb. Prove it's not Morg's orb. In fact, Thanos all seem to do was channel his power though the orb for blast and used it as a bludgeoning tool. He's got not amp and there's never been anything to confirm he had an amp. Essentially you're arguing he came their looking for Morg's orb and knew Morg's orb was going to amp him up enough to fight Tyrant. Except when he gets there he happens to fight an orb that's not Morg's and uses it to amp himself up to beat around Tyrant right? Then he goes to claim his prize and proclaim that he survived a conflict. No where does anyone make any indication the orb amped him but you want to claim that huh? Lol.
You can tell it was the Orb, the artist even made it clear. After Tyrant literally FLOORED Thanos tearing apart his costume, the gloved hand holding the Orb is unaffected the attack. He used the Orb to blast Tyrant in the face causing him pain. Everytime he attacked Tyrant he did so through the Orb. He reached for it in a panic when it was blasted out of his hand. It's right there in the comic and now we're just arguing in circles.
So he feared Tyrant? He mocks Tyrant and told him he didn't care about death because he's been there. Tyrant called him mad for challenging and Thanos replied he has been told that enough lately. Tyrant threatens him for trying to steal from him and Thanos simply that he does dare and takes his prize with him. What's there to fear for someone who's been to death's realm before? What's Tyrant going to do? He came there to survive a figh and did, so he left.
Thanos fought Odin mocking him to his face too. Unlike Tyrant, Thanos never fled from Odin. And wasn't about to anythime soon. Look at the way Thanos looked after the encounter with both. His clothes were barely singed after the Odin/Thanos fight.
It was Odin who fought and his darkside that was tapping into Infinity. He beat his darkside tapping into one of the major aspect of the universe, good to know indeed.
Yes, good to know the "galaxy busting" feat was his darkside tapping Infinity's power.
WTF? He's the one that destroyed the burning galaxy. In another book, Odin even states that Surtur destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. The Korbinites fleed their galaxy because Surtur had destroyed it. Even in the first page scan, the last panel is a picture of Beta Ray Bill before and after he got Stormbreaker.
So he destroyed a galaxy but couldn't make Earth tremble in his fight with Odin and all Asgard? How does that make any sense?
Lol. You do know that you can cross through into regular space from Asgard's realm right? But Earth is connected to the Norse's through means of teleportation. They're not next to each other.Did you ever stop to read these books or even just pull up their bio?
Explain to me what a Norse being is doing in a far off galaxy that doesn't even acknowledge his existence and I'll shut up. When Asgard and Olympus fought, Odin and Zeus met and decided to stop the war. The explanation being that it didn't matter who "won", since their worshipers didn't acknowledge the other Pantheon as valid.
That's funny because I could point to this board, CBR, and Herochat and say they don't doubt that at all.
Uhm I got that info from CBR (Comic book resources?) and Herochat! That's why I found it dubious also.
Arishem threatened to cut their link off to Earth and set their realms on fire. Battles tend to spill over? What battle spilled over? You want to name a fight that did spill over like that? Thanos' fight with Odin? WTF? If that was a slapfest, I guess Odin was just bitchsmacking Thanos and there really was no fight because it was a stomping.
Thanos isn't a mystical being associate with Earth, like Seth or Odin. Even during the fight Odin bragged that his power was divine/magical while Thanos' was based on science.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I cant believe this thread lasted this long....Anyone with common f**king sense that read the fight between Odin and Thanos knows that Odin beat Thanos down...
Seth actually managed to harm Odin while Thanos couldnt do jack but get him face beat in; Seth kicks Thanos's teeth in 10/10...
Seth was fighting an Odin with AMNESIA. Once Odin got back into his full powers, Seth did NOTHING.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no higher cosmic took notice of the galactus vs mephisto fight, no higher cosmic took notice of the galactus vs agamotto fight, etc thats not a good way to judge a fight.
No that's the perfect way to judge a fight. Because it let's us ignore hyperbole and get right to the heart of the matter. If beings on the level of Galactus and Agamotto thowing down don't register on the Cosmic scale then Odin/Seth weren't wrecking galaxies and shaking the multiverse.
its safe to say [b] the skyfathers were depowerd in that issue.
Why?
1. the combined blast of the three of them was only enough to shake a planet which doesnt even put there combined might at silver surfers level of power, and we know what odin can do to surfer2. thor did much better than odin zeus and vishnu he was fighting celestials and tanking blast from them and even injuring them
3. thor was giving odin a hell of alot of trouble in that issue and odin had a hard time putting thor down
we can just call that comic bullshit, or just accept thor and silver surfer are more powerful than skyfathers
That would make sense but later on in that very same issue Odin had 1000 years to plan and create the Destroyer and STILL failed against them! It was stated again by Thor in the Atlanstis Attacks Annual that his father and the rest of the gods are nothing compared to the Celestials.
And regarding Thor : They were toying with him in that issue. Do you really mean to tell me that if a Celestial had blasted Thor with an intention to kill him, he'd be anything but ashes? And Thor DID NOT injure them. At all. Where are you getting that from?
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
@zopzop
thor smashed exitars armor
That didn't happen when during the original fight in Thor 300. But what does that prove? Destroyer/Odin slashed off a Celestial's arm. Jean/Phoenix blew off Arshiem's hand.
Opening up a small hole in Exitar's armor is sorta meh compared to that. Later Thor opened up a full "God blast" inside Exitar's "head" breaking his "skull". But obviously Exitar wasn't damaged severely at all. Just like the Odinsword and Jean incidents. It was cosmetic damage.
Originally posted by zopzop
You can tell it was the Orb, the artist even made it clear. After Tyrant literally FLOORED Thanos tearing apart his costume, the gloved hand holding the Orb is unaffected the attack. He used the Orb to blast Tyrant in the face causing him pain. Everytime he attacked Tyrant he did so through the Orb. He reached for it in a panic when it was blasted out of his hand. It's right there in the comic and now we're just arguing in circles.
Lol. You stick with your point on this and I'll stick with mine.
Thanos fought Odin mocking him to his face too. Unlike Tyrant, Thanos never fled from Odin. And wasn't about to anythime soon. Look at the way Thanos looked after the encounter with both. His clothes were barely singed after the Odin/Thanos fight.[quote]And he did what to Odin again? He was on his knees and got up. Luckily for Thanos, BRB intervened before he got a further beat down. At not time did he do anything to Odin other than get swatted away.
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Yes, good to know the "galaxy busting" feat was his darkside tapping Infinity's power.
Yup, when Thanos can stand stop power tapped into Infinity enough that it's hand was crushing planets like grapes, Thanos' be on Odin's level.
So he destroyed a galaxy but couldn't make Earth tremble in his fight with Odin and all Asgard? How does that make any sense?
It makes sense because they weren't fighting on different planes of existence the way Seth and Odin did.
Explain to me what a Norse being is doing in a far off galaxy that doesn't even acknowledge his existence and I'll shut up. When Asgard and Olympus fought, Odin and Zeus met and decided to stop the war. The explanation being that it didn't matter who "won", since their worshipers didn't acknowledge the other Pantheon as valid.
WTF does that have to do with anything? Why should Surtur care about that? That's like the Dark Gods giving crap about if any other race worships them when they conquer or destroy them. Again, what does that have to do with anything? He destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. He's a demon that sought to bring destruction. Why would he care about having worshipers?
Uhm I got that info from CBR (Comic book resources?) and Herochat! That's why I found it dubious also.[/b]
What part is dubious? It's not like it's a one time feat.
Thanos isn't a mystical being associate with Earth, like Seth or Odin. Even during the fight Odin bragged that his power was divine/magical while Thanos' was based on science.
WTF does having association to Earth do with them fighting on different planes of existence and felt across space? His cosmic powers is not on Odin's level of magic at all. Cosmic can do as much as magic; Thanos' level isn't on Odin and thus why he can't achieve things like Odin. A cosmic like a Cube being have fought and produced the same affects as Odin's fights and more. Thanos is on Odin's level at all. In fact, Odin merely restorted to simply blasting Thanos about and nothing more. If anything, that's one of Odin's weaker showings.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Yup, when Thanos can stand stop power tapped into Infinity enough that it's hand was crushing planets like grapes, Thanos' be on Odin's level.
Uhm he was tanking Odin's blasts in Asgard. He'll do just fine.
It makes sense because they weren't fighting on different planes of existence the way Seth and Odin did.
They were fighting in Asgard and nothing aside from some storm clouds in human form were visible on Earth. Why wasn't Odin/Surtur multiverse shaking, galaxy destroying, long dead star igniting like Odin/Seth?
WTF does that have to do with anything? Why should Surtur care about that? That's like the Dark Gods giving crap about if any other race worships them when they conquer or destroy them. Again, what does that have to do with anything? He destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. He's a demon that sought to bring destruction. Why would he care about having worshipers?
It has everything to do with everything. When the Norse and Greco-Roman pantheons threw down, it didn't matter who won, because their worshipers on Earth wouldn't acknowledge the opposing pantheon.
They were limited in their scope and influence by their worshipers. Who/What was worshiping Surtur in the Korbinite galaxy? What was Surtur doing there? Why didn't it's native Gods stop him from destroying their worshipers?
What part is dubious? It's not like it's a one time feat.
It's dubious because beings with FAR greater power than Odin haven't busted galaxies. Let alone rocked the multiverse. That's why.
WTF does having association to Earth do with them fighting on different planes of existence and felt across space? His cosmic powers is not on Odin's level of magic at all. Cosmic can do as much as magic; Thanos' level isn't on Odin and thus why he can't achieve things like Odin. A cosmic like a Cube being have fought and produced the same affects as Odin's fights and more. Thanos is on Odin's level at all. In fact, Odin merely restorted to simply blasting Thanos about and nothing more. If anything, that's one of Odin's weaker showings.
Thanos and crew took out Blood lusted Thor with Power Gem, broke through Asgard's defenses and pummeled it's defenders. In Odin's eyes, they were launching an assault on his kingdom so it's not like he was holding back or anything. He even summoned his spear to show he was serious and nothing galaxy busting went down. Hell Thanos' outfit was barely affected (even though they managed to destroy most of Asgard proper).
Originally posted by zopzop
No that's the perfect way to judge a fight. Because it let's us ignore hyperbole and get right to the heart of the matter. If beings on the level of Galactus and Agamotto thowing down don't register on the Cosmic scale then Odin/Seth weren't wrecking galaxies and shaking the multiverse.
Beings like Galactus and Agamotto were fighting dimensions removed from the 616 during the IW, the regular cosmics weren't there. Still, their fight was wrecking Agamotto's dimension and causing dimension collateral damage to other dimensions including Hoggoth and Oshtur who showed up to stop the fight. So yeah, cosmics did show up because of the scale of their fight.
So Odin and Seth were wrecking galaxies. Surtur did destroy a galaxy to forge his sword. Odin stopped his darkside self that was crushing worlds in the palm of his hand. His struggle with Forsung did crush planets as if they're ant hills while the heat left new burning suns.
Thanos' best feat was what again? He was lucky Starlin wrote that fight with Odin and had Odin resort to just blast's and throwing meteors. Remember when Thanos got knocked about by WM Thor and was knocking Thor about as well? Then resorted to the Force Block to hold Thor? Even under Starlin, at no time did Thanos even move Odin. That force block that held Thor from attacking Thanos again lasted a few second/minute against Odin.
Originally posted by zopzop
Uhm he was tanking Odin's blasts in Asgard. He'll do just fine.
Your definition of tanking huh?
They were fighting in Asgard and nothing aside from some storm clouds in human form were visible on Earth. Why wasn't Odin/Surtur multiverse shaking, galaxy destroying, long dead star igniting like Odin/Seth?
I just told you Odin and Seth fought on different planes of existence simaltenously. It even states in the scans.
It has everything to do with everything. When the Norse and Greco-Roman pantheons threw down, it didn't matter who won, because their worshipers on Earth wouldn't acknowledge the opposing pantheon.
lol. Because Surtur cares about what people thought. He sure gave a damn about those Korbinates when he destroyed their galaxy huh? And Seth gives a damn about what people thought too right? That's why he was going to destroy Asgard.
They were limited in their scope and influence by their worshipers. Who/What was worshiping Surtur in the Korbinite galaxy? What was Surtur doing there? Why didn't it's native Gods stop him from destroying their worshipers?
Hahaha? Who cares. Surtur isn't a god. He's an elemental demon. Ymir doesn't have worshipers either. What's your point? And not every galaxy have gods. Surtur destroyed a galaxy to forge his sword. Everyone knows this but you. How or why any god if any at all exist is a question you have to ask the writer.
It's dubious because beings with FAR greater power than Odin haven't busted galaxies. Let alone rocked the multiverse. That's why.
Which beings are you refering too? Galactus and FP Tyrant have. Agamotto and Galactus have. Mephisto and Galactus have shook the universe when they fought in Hell. The Cube Beings blinded a Watch in another galaxy, the lunch of New Yorkers became alive and tried to eat them, and the laws of physics shatter.
You're just pissed that Odin's fought galaxy busters at his highest level while Thanos' best stunt was blast Galactus' out of his ship only to get his ass kicked by Galactus moments later.
Thanos and crew took out Blood lusted Thor with Power Gem, broke through Asgard's defenses and pummeled it's defenders. In Odin's eyes, they were launching an assault on his kingdom so it's not like he was holding back or anything. He even summoned his spear to show he was serious and nothing galaxy busting went down. Hell Thanos' outfit was barely affected (even though they managed to destroy most of Asgard proper).
Under Starlin, Thanos couldn't even move Odin one bit while Odin knocked Thanos on his ass on more than one occasion throughout the fight. Nothing was shattering planets because Thanos would get KTFO if Starlin deployed such writing. Thanos' high end isn't on par with Odin's high end. Let's not play around. Even Starlin knows this. He wrote Odin as best he could while making Thanos look decent. He can't have Odin shit all over his character now can he? This is the same guy that retconned all Thanos' lost into clones. He couldn't have Thanos get punked by an amped Thor y'know? Wouldn't look good for Thanos' resume.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderWrong. Thanos was taking it to Odin while Odin was in his proper mindset while he easily disposed of Seth while he just came to basically.
I cant believe this thread lasted this long....Anyone with common f**king sense that read the fight between Odin and Thanos knows that Odin beat Thanos down...
Seth actually managed to harm Odin while Thanos couldnt do jack but get him face beat in; Seth kicks Thanos's teeth in 10/10...
Originally posted by BentleyWhy yes I do.
You have the habit of thinking you're right ermm
