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Originally posted by BackFire
Obama, but not by huge margins.Fact is, McCain needed a blowout to change the course of this election. Regardless of who one thinks won the debate, I think most will agree that it was not a blowout for him. And that's bad news for him.
I agree. I think McCain has lost his last chance to make a difference.
I think that they both made stupid "he said and he did" claims and "muddied" up the debate. They also, the lot of them, have a difficult time giving a straight ****ing answer. That pissed me off about both of them. At one point, McCain borded dilberate "I didn't pay attention to what Obama said" libel. He said that Obama wanted to attack Afghanistan when Obama didn't even imply that shit. That pissed me off. Does he think everyone is so stupid that we didn't even hear Obama NOT say that?
Also, McCain took more notes than Obama because he's old and can't remember shit as well as Obama. Doesn't mean jack shit to most people, but it does me. I don't take notes.
Obama won this debate, pretty handily. He won with his base and he won with independants. John McCain just did a lot of dodging, bad joke telling and using all his time to respond to the last question. Even the Navy Petty Officer that asked a question and shook McCain's hand spent all his time nodding in agreement with Obama's response to it. So, while there was no absolute knock out, Obama didn't need one while McCain did. This never materialized and the every one of the polls I've heard mentioned in the brief time since it ended have gone for Obama. More intelligent, better to handle the economy, better to end the war, better on foreign affairs, ect.
National voting polls, viewer-specific polls, independant polls, swing state polls are going for Obama, but that doesn't mean it's time to sit back and let victory come for him. Now is the time to bash the point home until the close of every voting booth on the 4th.
Originally posted by Devil King
Then you're you're talking out your ass, aren't you?
Obama won.
not because of his positions or that he articulated them better than McCain, merely by presentation to the american people. He let McCain dig himself a hole. There were a few times McCain said, "obama just said _____" when clearly Obama had said nothing of the sort. One time Obama clearly but quietly busted out in laughter behind him. Obama presented himself as being much calmer and McCain just looked desperate......even so far as to lie about what Obama had just said, knowing that everyone in attendance and watching on national television had heard Obama quite clearly and knew he had not said such. One examle that comes to mind is when McCain opened with "Obama just said he would invade Pakistan". lol. not what he had said at all.
another issue that is sure to be talked about is McCain referring to Obama as "this one". At best it was simply disrespectful. The man is the leading candidate for president of the United States. He is Barack Obama, Mr. Obama, Senator Obama, Barak, etc. One thing he is not is "this one". This one what John? Is there another word you wanted to say after that?
Obama presented himself much better.....calm and respectful. I also dig his subtle blue ties to indicate change (red being the standard color for those who don't know).
Originally posted by Pezmerga
Fair Enough. I can live with that over "Obama won handily"
A win is still a win.
McCain's answers focused too much on telling people how horrible Obama's stances were instead of him saying how good his own stances are. That was the one error he committed far too many times.
Originally posted by Robtard
A win is still a win.McCain's answers focused too much on telling people how horrible Obama's stances were instead of him saying how good his own stances are. That was the one error he committed far too many times.
Obama was just as guilty of that. Take off the rose colored glasses.