Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Omega Red was owning Colossus, just a few seconds of contact with his tentacles and Colossus was barely able to do anything. Not only that but his tentacles overpowered Peter and he displayed the brute strength to dig his fingers into Colossus' organic steal! People aren't give Red enough credit. If he gets a hold of Herc. its pretty much over.
Utter crap fight....
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Utter crap fight....
Based on what? Arkady is legit man. When he turns on his death spores he has liquefied dudes with an a 20 yard radius almost instantly. His life syphon is a powerful ability and all he needs to do is make contact with his tentacles for it work and when he does his opponent doesn't only become weaker, but Arkady becomes stronger and completely rejuvenated.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
That's nice.
Doesn't mean anything to a guy who's Thor's equal in strength and has a good amount of skill.
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How does Hercs strength even begin to matter here? If Arkady's tentacles make contact with him they will significantly sap Herc's strength, while boosting Reds. Even if Herc gets free he will still be weakened and disoriented, making it even easier for Red to get a hold of him once again. So tell me, with that in mind, how does Herc win? Do you think he is going to wade right into melee avoid all of Arkady's tenticles and lay him out with one blow? Or do you think Red's power will have no affect on Herc? Do either of those scenarios even begin to make sense?
Face it, you are delusional champ.
Originally posted by Mindset
I think Herc will wade through Red's attacks and still beat him.
How? For that to happen Arkady either needs to A) not hit Herc at all or B) his life drain needs to have no affect. Considering he has hit much faster / more skilled opponents A is out of the question, and there is nothing in the history of either of them that would make B a likely out come either. So how does he do it? If Arkady makes contract with him for even a few seconds Herc will be on his knees as weak as a baby.
Originally posted by srankmissingninNo, not really. Other than OR interaction recently with Piotr I've never seen that happen, not to mention Herc is superior to Piotr in pretty much every way.
How? For that to happen Arkady either needs to A) not hit Herc at all or B) his life drain needs to have no affect. Considering he has hit much faster / more skilled opponents A is out of the question, and there is nothing in the history of either of them that would make B a likely out come either. So how does he do it? If Arkady makes contract with him for even a few seconds Herc will be on his knees as weak as a baby.
Has OR ever done what you're suggesting to anyone on Herc's level?
Originally posted by Mindset
No, not really. Other than OR interaction recently with Piotr I've never seen that happen, not to mention Herc is superior to Piotr in pretty much every way.Has OR ever done what you're suggesting to anyone on Herc's level?
You've never seen that happen before? 😕
Almost every time he makes contact with his tentacles he ends the fight instantly unless someone comes to the rescue. The life syphon doesn't have that great of an affect on people with powerful healing factors like Sabs and Wolverine, and once Psylock used her telepathy the stop him from using it when Arkady had her in his grasp... but that's about it. I mean he's down all of the X-Men almost instantly, he even took down Iceman in a few seconds and he didn't even use the tentacles to do it, just the death spores. Given Herc the benifit of the doubt and saying "Well, Herc is like totally strong, so OR powers won't work on him," is complete bull shit, and doesn't have any rational thought behind it.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWell seeing as he has done this all the time according to you where are the scans or issue numbers?
You've never seen that happen before? 😕Almost every time he makes contact with his tentacles he ends the fight instantly unless someone comes to the rescue. The life syphon doesn't have that great of an affect on people with powerful healing factors like Sabs and Wolverine, and once Psylock used her telepathy the stop him from using it when Arkady had her in his grasp... but that's about it. I mean he's down all of the X-Men almost instantly, he even took down Iceman in a few seconds and he didn't even use the tentacles to do it, just the death spores. Given Herc the benifit of the doubt and saying "Well, Herc is like totally strong, so OR powers won't work on him," is complete bull shit, and doesn't have any rational thought behind it.
And no, I've never seen him take any top tiers down in seconds.
You'll notice I never said OR powers wouldn't work on Herc, I think they will affect Herc but he can put him down before he's too weak. While you think Herc will lose in a couple seconds.
Originally posted by Mindset
Well seeing as he has done this all the time according to you where are the scans or issue numbers?And no, I've never seen him take any top tiers down in seconds.
You'll notice I never said OR powers wouldn't work on Herc, I think they will affect Herc but he can put him down before he's too weak. While you think Herc will lose in a couple seconds.
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He doesn't fight top tiers, he fights the X-Men but to suggest that his powers won't work on Herc because he C100 is compete and utter bias. There is nothing to suggest that Arkady's ability loses its effectiveness as people become stronger... I mean... its just as effective on Colossus as it is on Jubilee... but for some reason Hercules is immune? Give me a break.
His powers worked on Colossus though and if they worked on him then they should, if anything they, have a greater on affect on Herc who maybe stronger than Colossus, but isn't as durable.
Read X-Men 4-8 and 18-20 I think...
Hercules is the son of Zeus and for all intents are purposes can not die or be drained of his life force.
He is Invulnerable to anything Omega can do to him, is far stronger, and has regen close to that of Wolverine, with far better endurance.
Dispite the fact that Red should be able to sustain himself for longer than normal periods while feeding on Hercs LF, Omega loses here.
His Death Factor fails, Phermones will have no effect, and his body armor is not strong enough to sustain him going toe to toe with Herc here.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Hercules is the son of Zeus and for all intents are purposes can not die or be drained of his life force.He is Invulnerable to anything Omega can do to him, is far stronger, and has regen close to that of Wolverine, with far better endurance.
Dispite the fact that Red should be able to sustain himself for longer than normal periods while feeding on Hercs LF, Omega loses here.
His Death Factor fails, Phermones will have no effect, and his body armor is not strong enough to sustain him going toe to toe with Herc here.
Based on what? Where has it even been said that Herc can't have his life force drained?
Originally posted by srankmissingninI don't like to flame, but are you retarded? I explicitly stated I wasn't saying Herc was immune...
😕He doesn't fight top tiers, he fights the X-Men but to suggest that his powers won't work on Herc because he C100 is compete and utter bias. There is nothing to suggest that Arkady's ability loses its effectiveness as people become stronger... I mean... its just as effective on Colossus as it is on Jubilee... but for some reason Hercules is immune? Give me a break.
His powers worked on Colossus though and if they worked on him then they should, if anything they, have a greater on affect on Herc who maybe stronger than Colossus, but isn't as durable.
Read X-Men 4-8 and 18-20 I think...
Herc was able to fight for hours when shot with 9 bullets that had hydra blood, the deadliest poison to Gods, and even that didn't kill him. So death spores > that?
What I would like to know is where you get OR will have Herc completely powerless and beaten in a few seconds. If the power drain works, it will not be in a few seconds.
Colossus has greater durability based on what? Herc was taking blasts from the Skrull god to the face and smiling.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Based on what? Where has it even been said that Herc can't have his life force drained?
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Not only is Hercules is beyond Omega's abilty to drain...but Red would get pwned well before he could even make a halfway decent attempt.