Omega Red vs Hercules

Started by Mindset5 pages

Originally posted by Starscream M
didnt Red get stopped by a glue gun recently?
lol wut?

Didn't read this, what comic did it happen in?

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't like to flame, but are you retarded? I explicitly stated I wasn't saying Herc was immune...

Herc was able to fight for hours when shot with 9 bullets that had hydra blood, the deadliest poison to Gods, and even that didn't kill him. So death spores > that?

What I would like to know is where you get OR will have Herc completely powerless and beaten in a few seconds. If the power drain works, it will not be in a few seconds.

Colossus has greater durability based on what? Herc was taking blasts from the Skrull god to the face and smiling.

It's called exaggeration. I use it further discredit your opinion by making it seem more ridiculous than it actual is.

Yes.

The effects where near instantaneous on Colossus, why would Hercules be any different?

When Hercules gets into fights, he gets roughed up. He gets bruise, he gets scratched, he even bleeds. He has even been stabbed. Colossus rarely takens any damage (WWH broke his wrists but something like that is rare) and I don't think his hide has been penetrate since he was healed after Ripetide tore him up.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Omega drains life to sustain his own. Herc's lifeforce is Godly and directly tied to Olympia itself.

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Not only is Hercules is beyond Omega's abilty to drain...but Red would get pwned well before he could even make a halfway decent attempt.

Consider this. Omega Red drained Colossus who -unlike Hercules - has infinite stamina. Hercules eats, and sleeps, but in his organic steal form Colossus does neither and requires neither. He can go indefinitely with out food, water, sleep or air. He has in inexhaustible source of energy... but that didn't seem to stop OR's abilities from work on him did it? Once again I'll ask... why is Hercules different?

Yes Hercules can get stabbed, hurt and bleed, he lacks that metallic skin.

Only Herc's Endurance, Strength and Regen >>>>>>>> that of Colossus.

Blunt attack defense is at least on par as well.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Yes Hercules can get stabbed, hurt and bleed, he lackes that metallic skin.

Only Herc's Endurance, Strength and Regen >>>>>>>> that of Colossus.

Blunt attack defense is at least on par as well.

Agreed.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Consider this. Omega Red drained Colossus who -unlike Hercules - has infinite stamina. Hercules eats, and sleeps, in his organic steal form Colossus does neither and requires neither. He can go indefinitely with out food, water, sleep or air. He has in inexhaustible source of energy... but that didn't seem to stop OR's abilities from work on him did it?

Again Herc's lifeforce is tied to Olympia itself. Its not tied to a mortal shell like Colossus'.

Originally posted by Mindset
lol wut?

Didn't read this, what comic did it happen in?

Origins, maybe issue 10.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's called exaggeration. I use it further discredit your opinion by making it seem more ridiculous than it actual is.

Yes.

The effects where near instantaneous on Colossus, why would Hercules be any different?

When Hercules gets into fights, he gets roughed up. He gets bruise, he gets scratched, he even bleeds. He has even been stabbed. Colossus rarely takens any damage (WWH broke his wrists but something like that is rare) and I don't think his hide has been penetrate since he was healed after Ripetide tore him up.


Death spores would be more effective than a poison that specifically takes down gods for no reason, ok.

Because Herc has shown to have more power and endurance than Colossus has.

Yea Herc gets superficial wounds, and yet he has shown more impressive durability feats than Colossus. Go figure.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Again Herc's lifeforce is tied to Olympia itself. Its not tied to a mortal shell like Colossus'.

But does the source matter when the results are the same?

Herc gets hurt, he runs out of steam, its not like he can fight indefinitely. He can be koed and he can run out of stamina. He has lost fights before. Why would Arkady' draining his life force work any different than Ares or Thor pounding him into the ground? He doesn't magically get rejuvenated because he is a god. H

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
But does the source matter when the results are the same?

Herc gets hurt, he runs out of steam, its not like he can fight indefinitely. He can be koed and he can run out of stamina. He has lost fights before. Why would Arkady' draining his life force work any different than Ares or Thor pounding him into the ground? He doesn't magically get rejuvenated because he is a god. H

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The facts that Herc can be hurt, cut, bleed or KO'd is not an issue here. My point is that Red is incapable of lifeforce draining Herc.

Hercules is immortal. Colossus isnt. Herc's life force is being fed from Mount Olympus itself, Colossus's is simply tied to his body.

Basically since Herc's immortality is tied to and supported by Olympus itself, Arkady would have to tap Mount Olympus to break his immortal bond. Such a concept in itself full of 100% Fail.

Herc recently survived hydra poison bullets, which not only pierced his skin but also make him go fever mad. Hydra poison. So he wasn't stopped just by being pierced nor by poison.

...Interesting.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't like to flame, but are you retarded? I explicitly stated I wasn't saying Herc was immune...

Herc was able to fight for hours when shot with 9 bullets that had hydra blood, the deadliest poison to Gods, and even that didn't kill him. So death spores > that?

What I would like to know is where you get OR will have Herc completely powerless and beaten in a few seconds. If the power drain works, it will not be in a few seconds.

Colossus has greater durability based on what? Herc was taking blasts from the Skrull god to the face and smiling.

Agreed

This makes for a nice debate but i also question whether the death factor would work against an immortal. I've seen other such powers fail due to the godly nature of Olympians or Asgardians but providing an example is failing me at the moment.

If were talking about can the death factor kill Herc rather then will it just leech Herc. I think its the Marvel Universe guide that states Herc would need to have his atoms dispersed across the universe before he was killed and even then maybe not. Herc was owned hard by Galactus and turned into a puddle of biomass but i don't think that would have killed Herc if Galactus hadn't brought him back.

Omega Red was taking Colossus and Wolverine to school recently. Hercules has enough trouble with Logan solo so I'm gonna say Red has a good show to win.

What brick doesn't have trouble with Logan?

ABC logic, especially with Wolverine, doesn't work.

Originally posted by Mindset
What brick doesn't have trouble with Logan?

ABC logic, especially with Wolverine, doesn't work.

Colossus and Wolverine have some good team work together and Red was destroying them. I'm not saying Herc. will loose but he'll have to fight smart to win, like start tossing cars and sh!t at Red.

They barely used teamwork, Colossus just rushed in while Wolverine was trying to call him back.

Originally posted by Mindset
They barely used teamwork, Colossus just rushed in while Wolverine was trying to call him back.
Well that may be true. But OR was taking them with ease. Not sure what sort of threat Herc. would pose.

There is really no comparison between Colossus and Herc.

That's like comparing Thor sans hammer and Colossus.