The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite

Started by Mr Master51 pages

Originally posted by fangirl101

coming from a guy who even the respected debators don't like becuz of your ego and insanity,
I take that as a compliment.


"even respected deabters?"

😆

NO ONE likes you, not an "even" but NO ONE!!!

Originally posted by fangirl101

Your garbage dump of repetitive scans and self perpetuating fantasies of your marvel rankings only impress the slim whitted. I happen to not be impressed.


YEa, yea, nothing but hate talk.

And what else would you say,
you thought you said something brilliant, I came back and bottom you good again.

So, you do the next best thing and attack me,
instead of being a man and saying,
wow, you were right, and as usual I was wrong.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Pre retcon beyonder was above him,protege copied his powers.

Neither defeated him.

AGAIN ... (re-post) for all to see who is who around here!

You told me to "lay off the drugs" ... but really you need to "Lay off the LIES!"

That much YOU know because you never read a comic,
you just spew you know what.

The TRUTH with PROOF!!!!

Korvac was more powerful than the Multiversal Abstracts:

"The most awesome assembly of diverse power-wielder in the history of the Multiverse"

"It is essential that we act in concert,
Korvac's power already surpasses that of many of us here
"

bottom

You think I'm you?

You think Mr Master makes shit up with no concern for his dignity?

WRONG!!!

Originally posted by fangirl101

Fail.

you said he was more powerful than the multiversal abstracts.

The panel says more powerful than many of us here.

Not all of them and certainlynot all of them combined. You Fail at life.


😆

That was in the middle of the issue, Korvac was like at half power,
towards the end, after taking out the Multiversal powers,
ONLY Chaos/Order and the LT were left:

... And Chaos and Order went down as well:

You should seriously consider reading a comic book, at least once,
especially when you come out your face telling others they fail at life.

When you are the epitome of failure in debates at KMC. ✅

Originally posted by Mr Master
"even respected deabters?"

😆

NO ONE likes you, not an "even" but NO ONE!!!

YEa, yea, nothing but hate talk.

And what else would you say,
you thought you said something brilliant, I came back and bottom you good again.

So, you do the next best thing and attack me,
instead of being a man and saying,
wow, you were right, and as usual I was wrong.


You were not right. You hardly ever are. If you were, I would have said so.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Neither defeated him.

They would have if they fought...

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
of course spectre is going to have more low showings since he actually shows up like..all the time the writers like to use him alot and if we is always operating at his''right hand of god''levels there wouldn't be any stories to use him in..lt on the other hand rarely shows up and when he does he never really does much of anything besides making a ruling.

That's the LT's job. He only shows up when there's a legitimate threat to the continuum. How many of those are there?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
They would have if they fought...

Maybe, it's speculation at this point though.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I never said TOAA is not a fictional character, period.

Sensitive over nothing my ass,
now you're trying to back up,
what happened to:

Nice try on dismissing this as nothing.

I never started anything. You think I was trying to insult you from my perspective it was nothing, nothing to get hang up over like you seemed to have been. So 'whatever' seems appropriate to me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You got a problem with me ... bring it!

boxing You got a problem, I don't.

Originally posted by Allankles
HOTU is equal to the Source an aspect of the Presence.

As far as TOAA being real he isn't since he only exists in a fictitious setting read up on the definitions of fiction.

Fiction:
1.
a. An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented.
3.
a. A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
b. The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.

Anything drawn or written in a fictional setting i.e. fictitious interactions between artist avatars and other fictional characters are termed fiction.

So TOAA being Supreme in Marvel has no relevance to DC since the Presence is the Supreme authority there not TOAA, both are nothing but fictional avatars unless you somehow believe that the MU represents actual reality?

No,it isnt.

The heart is well above anything I have ever seen the Source accomplish on panel.

The writer once again chooses to put his or herself in the story itself.

TOAA isnt a particular fictional character imo while the presence is. TOAA is based on whoever is writing the story while the presence is the entire dcu and its supreme being. 😉

Originally posted by Allankles
TOAA is the Supreme Authority in MU's fictional universe, he gave Thanos HOTU which allowed him to erase all existence something the Source (merely an aspect of he Presence) is capable of, since it controls all existence in the DCU.
The Source is nowhere near as powerful as the heart is. I dont know where you are getting this from.
Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Fail. Micheal is the power of the Presence and thus eqaul to the heart. A power that has no shore. A power that sustains all creation. having the power to outright destroy an aspect of God in the spectre. michael is everybit the HOTU is. And yet is beneath the Presence. Don't apply crappy marvel bullshit the writer is this and that to DC. leave that crap at marvel.
No,he isnt. I fail to see anything on panel from Michael that rivals the heart's feats. Just accept it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
For the last time.

That Reed crap is NON-CANNNOOONNNN!!!!

Yea, and What ifs are the comics made for writers to have fun,
not to take seriously.

LT's ultimate judgement is making a Sun go Nova,
but Lt can tear an entire Universe from the Omniverse witha thought.

Korvac is more powerful than the Multiversal Abstracts,
yet, needs the UN to destroy his Universe,
and needs Death to help him survive the Sun going Nova

dur ... I mean ... 😆

This is why serious debaters ignore What ifs,
but I don't expect cats with a chip on their shoulder to do the same.

Enlighten us and tells us who in current Marvel has ever challeneged the LT,
besides TOAA's power that Thanos had?

Is this a joke? .. or a trick question?

GO to the LT's respect thread son.

Dont let fangirl rile you up. She posts nonsense and has proven time and time again to not even read the stories themselves that she speaks of.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Good grief.

Lucifers will can stop God?

Michael is equal to God?

Failure of epic proportions. Thanos was God, Lucifer and Michael are not.

Yep. Fangirl even put up a scan of the presence easily owning michael and now she wants to ignore that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yep. Fangirl even put up a scan of the presence easily owning michael and now she wants to ignore that.

Of course he can. The presence can easily own anyone. to suggest that is a low feat for michael would be IDIOTIC.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Of course he can. The presence can easily own anyone. to suggest that is a low feat for michael would be IDIOTIC.
The heart easily owned Lt,the abstracts,celestials like they were nothing. To suggest that michael is even near the heart is absurb.

Presence gets absorbed for the loss here imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The heart easily owned Lt,the abstracts,celestials like they were nothing. To suggest that michael is even near the heart is absurb.

Presence gets absorbed for the loss here imo.


What the HELL? The Heart didn't absorb any supreme beings? And Michael pwned the Spectre fully powered. He sustains creation. Like the heart powers everything in the MU. I get sick of your RIDICULOUSAND I DO MEAN RIDICULOUS BS!!! The heart easily owned the LT and celestials and what the eff does that have to do with micheal or the presence? Not a god damned thing.

Originally posted by fangirl101
What the HELL? The Heart didn't absorb any supreme beings? And Michael pwned the Spectre fully powered. He sustains creation. Like the heart powers everything in the MU. I get sick of your [b]RIDICULOUSAND I DO MEAN RIDICULOUS BS!!! The heart easily owned the LT and celestials and what the eff does that have to do with micheal or the presence? Not a god damned thing. [/B]
The heart was the supreme being. The presence makes up the dcu. Heart easily would absorb the dcu.

Amped Captain Marvel owned the Spectre in dov. Spectre got owned by Am in coie. Owning the Spectre isnt that impressive imo.

How would the presence resist being absorbed?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The heart was the supreme being. The presence makes up the dcu. Heart easily would absorb the dcu.

Amped Captain Marvel owned the Spectre in dov. Spectre got owned by Am in coie. Owning the Spectre isnt that impressive imo.

How would the presence resist being absorbed?


I'm reporting you for trolling. the Presence does not make up the DCU. The Ultimator makes up the DCU. And Kismet in some regards. Amped CM hurt depowered Spectre and still lost. Spectre got owned when he was working for the voice. Not the presence. Now I'm reporting you for trolling.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm reporting you for trolling. the Presence does not make up the DCU. The Ultimator makes up the DCU. And Kismet in some regards. Amped CM hurt depowered Spectre and still lost. Spectre got owned when he was working for the voice. Not the presence. Now I'm reporting you for trolling.
Report away.

Here is my proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Report away.

Here is my proof.

your proof owns you. The presence IS NO WHERE and EVERYWHERE. He makes up the DCU AND HE NOT IN THE DCU AT THE SAME GODDAMNED TIME. Learn to read.

Why is this still open?? The Presence would blink and Thanos would be dead plan and simple, he was not supreme at all if he was he'd still have the power and he was still controlled by TOAA who is = The Presence. If you want to say Thanos took over for TOAA then thats fine but he still loses since he was not God himself to begin with. Michael and Lucifer can build another creation and another and so on something Thanos has only done once, even The Source is still around and has done what Thanos did..

Originally posted by fangirl101
your proof owns you. The presence IS NO WHERE and EVERYWHERE. He makes up the DCU AND HE NOT IN THE DCU AT THE SAME GODDAMNED TIME. Learn to read.
Resides in everything. You obviously only see what you want to see. This is my proof and the heart easily takes this imo.