The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Does it matter? Do you doubt that Thanos with the heart would've absorbed them along with everything else?

He would not have. Lucifer's will would supercede thanos and he would simply fashion the energy to his liking. it's what he does. He takes Gods power and fashions it. michael is the equal of the heart and wouldn't budge one inch.

Mr Master Junior Member

Way ta go on completely ignoring this .. I'm not letting you get away with it.

AGAIN ... (re-post) for all to see who is who around here!

Originally posted by fangirl101
lay off the drugs.
Korvac wasn't more powerful than the multiversal abstracts.
He was more powerful than the abstracts of his universe.
That much we know.

You told me to "lay off the drugs" ... but really you need to "Lay off the LIES!"

That much YOU know because you never read a comic,
you just spew you know what.

The TRUTH with PROOF!!!!

Korvac was more powerful than the Multiversal Abstracts:

"The most awesome assembly of diverse power-wielder in the history of the Multiverse"

"It is essential that we act in concert,
Korvac's power already surpasses that of many of us here"

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You think I'm you?

You think Mr Master makes shit up with no concern for his dignity?

WRONG!!!

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

Originally posted by fangirl101
He would not have. Lucifer's will would supercede thanos and he would simply fashion the energy to his liking. it's what he does. He takes Gods power and fashions it. michael is the equal of the heart and wouldn't budge one inch.

Good grief.

Lucifers will can stop God?

Michael is equal to God?

Failure of epic proportions. Thanos was God, Lucifer and Michael are not.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mr Master
Way ta go on completely ignoring this .. I'm not letting you get away with it.
AGAIN ... (re-post) for all to see who is who around here!
You told me to "lay off the drugs" ... but really you need to "Lay off the LIES!"
That much YOU know because you never read a comic,
you just spew you know what.
The TRUTH with PROOF!!!!
Korvac was more powerful than the Multiversal Abstracts:
"The most awesome assembly of diverse power-wielder in the history of the Multiverse"
"It is essential that we act in concert,
Korvac's power already surpasses that of many of us here"
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You think I'm you?
You think Mr Master makes shit up with no concern for his dignity?
WRONG!!!

Fail. you said he was more powerful than the multiversal abstracts. The panel says more powerful than many of us here. Not all of them and certainlynot all of them combined. You Fail at life.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer's will would supercede thanos
and he would simply fashion the energy to his liking. it's what he does.
He takes Gods power and fashions it.
michael is the equal of the heart and wouldn't budge one inch.

durlaugh

Ok, it's time to say goodnight folks.

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by Mr Master
All I know is I had respected you, we disagreed, but the respect was there,
but now since you tried to insult me, you just joined a selective shit list.

Who kept bringing up the writer like TOAA is unique in that regard? every character is conceived by a writer. As far as insulting you goes I didn't, you want to get sensitive over nothing that's your problem.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You must not know me to try your luck like that.

Again, whatever (this word was created for moments like this).

Originally posted by Mr Master
Still have no idea what you're relating this to.
In Marvel comics,
THOTI made Thanos the Supreme being.

I've no doubt Thanos was the Supreme being but there was still TOAA the supreme authority which is where we come to now, the reason for the very long thread. You want to us to accept that TOAA is more than the Presence because according to you: "he creates Supreme beings".

That's how the fictional argument becomes relevant, if the Presence is the undeniable Supreme authority in his universe then HOTU can't be equal to him. HOTU then begins to resemble the Source/Micheal whatever, which could achieve the same task without the Presence having to directly be involved.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The same PROOF you can't provide of the Source erasing Michael or Lucifer.

If the Source in it's entirety (fully bonded with the Anti-Life entity) is an aspect of the Presence, I don't see why it couldn't erase Micheal for the simple reason that Micheal cannot erase an aspect of God. Fangirl said that Micheal could erase the Spectre but I doubt it, the hostless Spectre is the very vengeance of the Presence. You could destroy the empowered but limited host, but not the very spirit of the Presence's vengeance.

Basically Micheal as powerful as he is, gifted with power approaching omnipotence is still not an aspect of his creator.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Allankles
Fangirl said that Micheal could erase the Spectre but I doubt it, the hostless Spectre is the very vengeance of the Presence. You could destroy the empowered but limited host, but not the very spirit of the Presence's vengeance.

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by Allankles

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by fangirl101
Fail. you said he was more powerful than the multiversal abstracts.
The panel says more powerful than many of us here.
Not all of them and certainlynot all of them combined. You Fail at life.

😆

That was in the middle of the issue, Korvac was like a half power,
towatds the end, after taking out the Multiversal powers,
ONLY Chaos/Order and the LT were left:

... And Chaos and Order went down as well:

yawn

You should seriously consider reading a comic book, at least once,
especially you come out your face telling others they fail at life.

When you are the epitome of failure in debates at KMC. ✅

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆
That was in the middle of the issue, Korvac was like a half power,
towatds the end, after taking out the Multiversal powers,
ONLY Chaos/Order and the LT were left:
... And Chaos and Order went down as well:
yawn
You should seriously consider reading a comic book, at least once,
especially you come out your face telling others they fail at life.
When you are the epitome of failure in debates at KMC. ✅

coming from a guy who even the respected debators don't like becuz of your ego and insanity, I take that as a compliment. Your garbage dump of repetitive scans and self perpetuating fantasies of your marvel rankings only impress the slim whitted. I happen to not be impressed.

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by fangirl101

That was a hosted Spectre. The hostless Spectre is the very spirit of the Presence's vengeance, I just have my doubts Micheal could erase it from existence, not unless the Presence gave up his own vengeance to be destroyed.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

Originally posted by fangirl101

Hahahahaha Spectre is equal to the LT?

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Lets not get into a who owns who contest...its not like lt has never been defeated or challenged.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Allankles
That was a hosted Spectre. The hostless Spectre is the very spirit of the Presence's vengeance, I just have my doubts Micheal could erase it from existence, not unless the Presence gave up his own vengeance to be destroyed.

He says he dare not destroy him for he has a place. He could have. He just knew the grand scheme of things.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Hahahahaha Spectre is equal to the LT?

Do you know who michael is? He's the living power of God. Epic FAIL. he's like a walking heart of the universe. You fail so hard it's not funny. The LT has been pwned by reed richards. At least the Spectre put up a fight. Michael even gives him credit for being a worthy foe.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

I'm REALLY starting to believe you don't actually read comics.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Allankles
Who kept bringing up the writer like TOAA is unique in that regard? every character is conceived by a writer. As far as insulting you goes I didn't, you want to get sensitive over nothing that's your problem.

I never said TOAA is not a fictional character, period.

Sensitive over nothing my ass,
now you're trying to back up,
what happened to:

Originally posted by Allankles
I would say he is bordering on insanity ... Mr. Master

Nice try on dismissing this as nothing.

Originally posted by Allankles
Again, whatever (this word was created for moments like this).

You got a problem with me ... bring it!

Originally posted by Allankles
I've no doubt Thanos was the Supreme being but there was still TOAA the supreme authority which is where we come to now, the reason for the very long thread. You want to us to accept that TOAA is more than the Presence because according to you: "he creates Supreme beings".
That's how the fictional argument becomes relevant, if the Presence is the undeniable Supreme authority in his universe then HOTU can't be equal to him. HOTU then begins to resemble the Source/Micheal whatever, which could achieve the same task without the Presence having to directly be involved.

I disagree.

TOAA creates Supreme beings, ON PANEL! it's been proven with THOTI.

I have even alluded to the thought that TOAA is not fictional.

I challenge you to find a single post of mine
that states that fallacious outlook of my perspective.

Originally posted by Allankles
If the Source in it's entirety (fully bonded with the Anti-Life entity) is an aspect of the Presence, I don't see why it couldn't erase Micheal for the simple reason that Micheal cannot erase an aspect of God. Fangirl said that Micheal could erase the Spectre but I doubt it, the hostless Spectre is the very vengeance of the Presence. You could destroy the empowered but limited host, but not the very spirit of the Presence's vengeance.

So, you have no proof, it's all speculation based on your logic.

See, I on the other hand have proof for all my claims.

On Panel ... Marvel Handbooks ... and even from the Writers themselves.

Originally posted by Allankles
Basically Micheal as powerful as he is, gifted with power approaching omnipotence is still not an aspect of his creator.

Nice.

There's several cats in Marvel that have become GOD! (Supreme beings)
this is no surprise, for TOAA to create these beings,
it's nothing but a stroke of a pencil on some paper.

For the record:

NOT in real life, but IN COMICS!!!!

(an artist that toils with his drawings ... just like in the real world)

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"Meeting the Maker!"

(excerpt from the FF Ultimate Guide)

Let's see if this official information source from Marvel comics,
is stating what took place On Panel:

.................................................................................

++++ On Panel verification +++

1.

"The FF were amazed to find out,
he sketched out Reality in the same way as a comic-book artist:"

2.

"Redrawing Ben so that he once agan resembled the Thing:"

3.

"God then re-drew the FF's World, transporting them home:"

🙂

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More Proof!

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(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook - FF - bio)

... "Quest led them to the gates of Heaven itself ...
the CreatorS (artists/writers) allowed it,
even healing Reed's facial scars as a parting gift.

++++ On Panel verification +++

FF# 511, is 100% Canon,

part of continuity and evidently the way God looks in Marvel..

yawn

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SEE!!!

That's the way TOAA operates, if you didn't know that, well, then, now you know.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
its not like lt has never been defeated

Thanos with Gods power and....?

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mr Master
I never said TOAA is not a fictional character, period.
Sensitive over nothing my ass,
now you're trying to back up,
what happened to:
Nice try on dismissing this as nothing.
You got a problem with me ... bring it!
I disagree.
TOAA creates Supreme beings, ON PANEL! it's been proven with THOTI.
I have even alluded to the thought that TOAA is not fictional.
I challenge you to find a single post of mine
that states that fallacious outlook of my perspective.
So, you have no proof, it's all speculation based on your logic.
See, I on the other hand have proof for all my claims.
On Panel ... Marvel Handbooks ... and even from the Writers themselves.
Nice.
There's several cats in Marvel that have become GOD! (Supreme beings)
this is no surprise, for TOAA to create these beings,
it's nothing but a stroke of a pencil on some paper.
For the record:
NOT in real life, but IN COMICS!!!!
(an artist that toils with his drawings ... just like in the real world)
====================================
"[b]Meeting the Maker!"
(excerpt from the FF Ultimate Guide)
Let's see if this official information source from Marvel comics,
is stating what took place On Panel:
.................................................................................
++++ On Panel verification +++
1.
"The FF were amazed to find out,
he sketched out Reality in the same way as a comic-book artist:"
2.
"Redrawing Ben so that he once agan resembled the Thing:"
3.
"God then re-drew the FF's World, transporting them home:"

🙂
====================================
More Proof!
====================================
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook - FF - bio)
... "Quest led them to the gates of Heaven itself ...
the CreatorS (artists/writers) allowed it,
even healing Reed's facial scars as a parting gift.
++++ On Panel verification +++
FF# 511, is 100% Canon,
part of continuity and evidently the way God looks in Marvel..
yawn
========================================
SEE!!!
That's the way TOAA operates, if you didn't know that, well, then, now you know. [/B]

Do you know what Supreme being means? It means no one above you. TOAA is the Supreme being of marvel. he cannot create other supreme beings. FAIL. SO HARD.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Thanos with Gods power and....?

Pre retcon beyonder was above him,protege copied his powers,of course spectre is going to have more low showings since he actually shows up like..all the time the writers like to use him alot and if we is always operating at his''right hand of god''levels there wouldn't be any stories to use him in..lt on the other hand rarely shows up and when he does he never really does much of anything besides making a ruling.