Thor vs. Darkseid

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quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm pretty much over you. Your DS hate, and other crap posting against dc characters is getting on my nerves. even when presented with evidence you refuse to accept. I can report you. everyone else sees superspeed.
Its your opinion unless otherwise stated. I agree that orion possesses superspeed,but disagree that Darkseid and Orion were fighting at it.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Name one super fast being thor has god blasted.
Darkseid has never shown me to be superfast.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's Nova level superspeed. Nowhere near Superman's combat speed or Flash's.

The onlookers, some of which are fast New Gods, like Lightray, do have superspeed. But others do not. Yet... they are all watching the fight and following it. They are also reacting to each and every one of their moves. Just because you label it superspeed, doesn't make it superspeed. Otherwise, I could just label this fight involving Thor, Adam Warlock and Silver Surfer as going at superspeed:

http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view&current=Warlock1.jpg
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Your bull shit post means nothing when the on lookers are new gods. all enhanced beings. Also the effing panels have speed lines and shit like, swoosh, thus emphasiszing super speed. And It doesn't matter what level flash or Superman's combat speeds are. the point that DS pwns them with his reaction times and speeds is what matters. take your DC hating shit some where else. I've presented the panels. So now instead of taking them for what thier worth, you try and demean them. are you from SHC?

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its your opinion unless otherwise stated. I agree that orion possesses superspeed,but disagree that Darkseid and Orion were fighting at it. Darkseid has never shown me to be superfast.

Except when he and highfather fly to the ends of realty. When he reacts at pico seconds speed. when he blitzes superman before he sees him. And when the panel says swoosh in a speed making sound.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by fangirl101
Your bull shit post means nothing when the on lookers are new gods. all enhanced beings. Also the effing panels have speed lines and shit like, swoosh, thus enphasing super speed. And It doesn't matter what level flash or Superman's combat speeds are. the point that DS pwns them with his reaction times and speeds is what matters. take your DC hating shit some where else. I've presented the panels. So now instead of taking them for what thier worth, you try and demean them. are you from SHC?
Its your opinion and thats it. Like i said. Dont get mad because logical posters such as myself and odg disagree with you.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its your opinion and thats it. Like i said. Dont get mad because logical posters such as myself and odg disagree with you.

His post wasn't even logical. he posted a bullshit fight about thor and says he can call it superspeed. I saw no speed lines, no swoosh effects. nothing that indicated they were fighting at superspeeds. get your DS hating ass out of the thread if you aren't going to at least look at the evidence squarely.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by fangirl101
DS just teleports around Thor and Zaps him.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/NewGodsv301-08.jpg
Maybe Thor turns around and punches Darkseid anyway:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/thor_vol-2_029_20.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/thor_vol-2_029_21.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/thor_vol-2_029_22-1.jpg

Now... the Wrecker isn't the fastest guy around. But his mystic crowbar is maybe two inches from striking Thor's dome and yet, even when turned around, he's quick enough to grab it in mid-swing. ANd if that isn't enough. Mjolnir is quite fast, and Thor is able to dodge a cursed Mjolnir here:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_vol2-509-007-11.jpg

Originally posted by fangirl101
And yes DS is faster than Surfer in travel speed. Not that he needs it.

DS flies from the 4th world to the end of creation in one panel.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/NewGodsv310-19.jpg

Not quite sure how fast that is. But ok.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by fangirl101
His post wasn't even logical. he posted a bullshit fight about thor and says he can call it superspeed. I saw no speed lines, no swoosh effects. nothing that indicated they were fighting at superspeeds. get your DS hating ass out of the thread if you aren't going to at least look at the evidence squarely.
I do look at the evidence fairly. He had a very good point about it. You are trying to use something as proof that imo isnt proof at all. Its only your opinion and it isnt a fact.

kevdude The Hooded Man

We are dealing with gods here quanchi/oned not just normal level beings, you really should be more fair and need to take that into account and the fact Morrison said everyone of them are Big G level beings, and just DS manifesting into the physical plane in the next few comics says reality is falling apart, have not seen Thor do that before 😉

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
I do look at the evidence fairly. He had a very good point about it. You are trying to use something as proof that imo isnt proof at all. Its only your opinion and it isnt a fact.

anyone with half a brain can see they are moving at super speed. what the hell does it look like at the end when they are rushing towards each other with twoom and swoosh under thier feat? Damn. effing marvel trolls.

fangirl101 Restricted

Now tell me that's not god damned Super speed. That sure the hell is.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by fangirl101
Your bull shit post means nothing when the on lookers are new gods. all enhanced beings. Also the effing panels have speed lines and shit like, swoosh, thus emphasiszing super speed. And It doesn't matter what level flash or Superman's combat speeds are. the point that DS pwns them with his reaction times and speeds is what matters. take your DC hating shit some where else. I've presented the panels. So now instead of taking them for what thier worth, you try and demean them. are you from SHC?
Speed lines matter? Cap and Spiderman have some fights with more speed lines than those. Those lines emphasize movement. And they are probably moving fast. But some of those onlookers are generic New Gods. And not all New Gods have combat superspeed. Hell, some Apokolips grunts are there too. Are you now suggesting that all Apokolips grunts have combat superspeed?
Originally posted by fangirl101
Now tell me that's not god damned Super speed. That sure the hell is.
Even at the climax bullrush at the end, if you look at the directly preceding page, every single onlooker is able to cheer about the battle. Then Darkseid and Orion rush each other and the onlookers see them rush at each other and react to them rushing each other and stop what they're doing. So unless they're all engaging in superspeed cheering, you're making massive assumptions about speed lines. And who's that one dude with the glasses and standard dress shirt in the last panel, anyway? And a cameraman next to him? Are there humans there?
Originally posted by kevdude
We are dealing with gods here quanchi/oned not just normal level beings, you really should be more fair and need to take that into account and the fact Morrison said everyone of them are Big G level beings, and just DS manifesting into the physical plane in the next few comics says reality is falling apart, have not seen Thor do that before 😉
Fact is, Thor has better on-panel speed feats that can be directly quantified. The above battle requires wildly speculative assumptions to support Flash level or even Superman level combat speed.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Speed lines matter? Cap and Spiderman have some fights with more speed lines than those. Those lines emphasize movement. And they are probably moving fast. But some of those onlookers are generic New Gods. And not all New Gods have combat superspeed. Hell, some Apokolips grunts are there too. Are you now suggesting that all Apokolips grunts have combat superspeed?
Even at the climax bullrush at the end, if you look at the directly preceding page, every single onlooker is able to cheer about the battle. Then Darkseid and Orion rush each other and the onlookers see them rush at each other and react to them rushing each other and stop what they're doing. So unless they're all engaging in superspeed cheering, you're making massive assumptions about speed lines.
Fact is, Thor has better on-panel speed feats that can be directly quantified. The above battle requires wildly speculative assumptions to support Flash level or even Superman level combat speed.

You don't need Superspeed to see people moving at superspeed when they are in an enclosed area. The very fact that you are trying to say they don't is ridiculous. given the fact that I just posted art from the same series with Orion moving at Superspeeds. And it's specifically called Superspeed.That is how they DRAW superspeed. Now show me spider man or Cap with blur lines like those behind them. They are also gods. Please with the non sense. And I've already shown DS moving so fast that he grabs superman before he can move. Superman didn't even see him moving while he was looking str8 at him. So the BULL that they aren't fighting at Superspeeds, And that DS doesn't have it should end. Where are Thor's speed feats? Fact is, he doesn't have any. He's not a speedster.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Darkseid has knocked supes on his ass when supes was trying to rush him...several times.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by fangirl101
You don't need Superspeed to see people moving at superspeed when they are in an enclosed area. The very fact that you are trying to say they don't is ridiculous. given the fact that I just posted art from the same series with Orion moving at Superspeeds. And it's specifically called Superspeed.That is how they DRAW superspeed. Now show me spider man or Cap with blur lines like those behind them. They are also gods. Please with the non sense. And I've already shown DS moving so fast that he grabs superman before he can move. Superman didn't even see him moving while he was looking str8 at him. So the BULL that they aren't fighting at Superspeeds, And that DS doesn't have it should end. Where are Thor's speed feats? Fact is, he doesn't have any. He's not a speedster.
Superman's combat speed makes it so that people can't even follow his movements. Every single onlooker is following every single move and attack that Orion and Darkseid make. That's obvious because on every page there are the onlookers' reactions. They not only get out of the way of them being thrown around all over the place, but they talk to each other and cheer with each move they make. And I swear, that looks like a boom operator and cameraman in that last panel. I give you a very specific reason why you can't just assume they are fighting at superspeed. Because the crowd would have to be engaging in superspeed cheering. I will post fights with Spiderman and Cap respectively with speed lines exactly like those used here.

As The Great Galen says, if you want Thor's speed feats, go to his Respect Thread. But if you'll be patient, I'll gather a bunch for you tomorrow. It's 3:00 AM here and I have work tomorrow. Thanks for the scans.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Darkseid has knocked supes on his ass when supes was trying to rush him...several times.
Thor has done that to Silver Surfer and Gladiator... several times. Thor has also punked Hermes in one deft move who was flying around at superspeed and attacking Thor.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Superman's combat speed makes it so that people can't even follow his movements. Every single onlooker is following every single move and attack that Orion and Darkseid make. That's obvious because on every page there are the onlookers' reactions. They not only get out of the way of them being thrown around all over the place, but they talk to each other and cheer with each move they make. And I swear, that looks like a boom operator and cameraman in that last panel. I give you a very specific reason why you can't just assume they are fighting at superspeed. Because the crowd would have to be engaging in superspeed cheering. I will post fights with Spiderman and Cap respectively with speed lines exactly like those used here.

As The Great Galen says, if you want Thor's speed feats, go to his Respect Thread. But if you'll be patient, I'll gather a bunch for you tomorrow. It's 3:00 AM here and I have work tomorrow. Thanks for the scans.
Thor has done that to Silver Surfer and Gladiator... several times. Thor has also punked Hermes in one deft move who was flying around at superspeed and attacking Thor.


WHAT PART OF THIS IS A BUNCH OF NEW GODS WATCHING THE FIGHT DON"T YOU GET? All enhanced beings. And I posted the orion speed feat first. So that you can specifically see that Orion has it, and that that is how super speed is drawn in that series. If intelligence isn't enough should I post it out panel by panel so you can see it slowly? And who the hell cares about Superspeed cheering? We are talking about Gods. Epic fail on super speed cheering. anything to demean the dc characters.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by fangirl101
WHAT PART OF THIS IS A BUNCH OF NEW GODS WATCHING THE FIGHT DON"T YOU GET? All enhanced beings. And I posted the orion speed feat first. So that you can specifically see that Orion has it, and that that is how super speed is drawn in that series. If intelligence isn't enough should I post it out panel by panel so you can see it slowly? And who the hell cares about Superspeed cheering? We are talking about Gods. Epic fail on super speed cheering. anything to demean the dc characters.
Bunch of New Gods, one of whom is the only one we know of that has combat superspeed, Lightray. The rest are the Tomorrow People, New Gods, Apokolips grunts, two humans seemingly, a boom operator (guy who holds mic) and a cameraman. According to you, they are all superspeed cheering and superspeed dodging, since at one point, a great number of them have to get out of the way of Darkseid and Orion zooming around into the stadium stands. Labeling all the onlookers as New Gods does nothing to change your speculative assumption that all New Gods are capable of combat superspeed. This has nothing to do with DC character hate. I don't think Darkseid is near the top of characters with combat superspeed. His best on-panel feat, a microsecond feat, is still a million times slower than Flash's best feat, a picosecond feat. And Superman can fight so fast, people can't even follow his movements. Diana has better feats than either Orion or Darkseid. They're second tier speedsters at best.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Bunch of New Gods, one of whom is the only one we know of that has combat superspeed, Lightray. The rest are the Tomorrow People, New Gods, Apokolips grunts, two humans seemingly, a boom operator (guy who holds mic) and a cameraman. According to you, they are all superspeed cheering and superspeed dodging, since at one point, a great number of them have to get out of the way of Darkseid and Orion zooming around into the stadium stands. Labelling all the onlookers as New Gods does nothing to change your speculative assumption that all New Gods are capabel of combat superspeed. This has nothing to do with DC characters. I don't think Darkseid is near the top of comic characters with combat superspeed. His best on-panel feat, a microsecond feat, is still a million times slower than Flash's best feat, a picosecond feat. And Superman can fight so fast, people can't even see him. Diana has better feats than either Orion or Darkseid. They're second tier speedsters at best.

How ever you want to down play it. obviously it was more to the arena than meets the eye. anyone with intelligence can see that. the big energy explosion didn't even singe anyone looking. So obviously the people you try to down play as being human, have some damn uber durability. right. like i said, they are new gods watching the fight. It doesn't take superspeed to watch a fight. As I said, DS has caught Superman without him being able to move. not even seeing DS move. Then he throws superman before he can react. and Superman comments on his speed. DS routinely gets the best of characters who are at the top with speed. And he does have it himself. Something Thor lacks.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Thor has done that to Silver Surfer and Gladiator... several times. Thor has also punked Hermes in one deft move who was flying around at superspeed and attacking Thor.

Has he done that to a silver surfer who was bloodlusted actually going for the kill?because ds has done it when superman litterally wanted to rip his head off.

Badabing Gym rat

Let's just be clear. Right now I'm asking that everybody be civil. If I have to come back in here regarding the same problems with the same people there will be warnings.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Darkseid has knocked supes on his ass when supes was trying to rush him...several times.
Which times has he used speed?