wolverine vs spider-man in a slug fight

sometimes in some storylines writers show him in a different shadow, in some storylines the writer deside to give him balls but if we look at spider-man overall he doesnt have the agresion that most fighter have when they fight... even when spider-man fought the first form of sabretooth who was weaker and slower then him and still sabretooth owned him with punisher... why? because spider-man was scared when he fought sabretooth and most of the time avoided him, thats how he fights he is jumping around and avoiding everybody unlike wolverine who goes punch for punch like a real war dog

Someone hasn't read a lot about spiderman iff you ask me, heck check the Civil war series.
You say he get beat up by blade and black panther, can't really say that black panther is a real street level guy.
Look at him now leading his country against the skrull invasion.
Correct me iff I'm wrong but didn't he beat cap or wasn't he about to beat him even thow he was showing show cap great respect.
Wasn't he one of the only persons to switch side's while his face was allready on tv, and took on Iron Man while he sure as hell didn't stand much of a change.
Doesn't really sound like a whinning little nerd iff you ask me.

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
just by saying that you lost any cradability and i stoped reading your post because that was a joke and not a fight its like the time wolverine took a nuke and he didnt even lose his cloth like even his cloths had healing factor

How have I lost credibilty- my point, as you are unable to grasp, is that Parker isn't a cowardly quitter. I actually stated that the fight was PIS, but I pointed out that in that fight, as in virtually all Spiderman's fights he kept going to the end. I notice that you don't make any reference to anything else in my post, as it shows up your claim-that Spiderman is a gutless coward-for the nonsense that is is

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
sometimes in some storylines writers show him in a different shadow, in some storylines the writer deside to give him balls but if we look at spider-man overall he doesnt have the agresion that most fighter have when they fight... even when spider-man fought the first form of sabretooth who was weaker and slower then him and still sabretooth owned him with punisher... why? because spider-man was scared when he fought sabretooth and most of the time avoided him, thats how he fights he is jumping around and avoiding everybody unlike wolverine who goes punch for punch like a real war dog

Well maybe they show people that spiderman starts to grow up, can you blame a kid for not showing the agression some others has while he first showed up, they showed him like a real kid.
How old was he back than???
These day's he's like what 25/30??
He really grew within the years, maybe that's the reason writers these day's give him some balls, because even thow he doens't have the war experience or the trauma like wolverine, the punisher or cap.
He starts to grow up.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Someone hasn't read a lot about spiderman iff you ask me, heck check the Civil war series.
You say he get beat up by blade and black panther, can't really say that black panther is a real street level guy.
Look at him now leading his country against the skrull invasion.
Correct me iff I'm wrong but didn't he beat cap or wasn't he about to beat him even thow he was showing show cap great respect.
Wasn't he one of the only persons to switch side's while his face was allready on tv, and took on Iron Man while he sure as hell didn't stand much of a change.
Doesn't really sound like a whinning little nerd iff you ask me.

i saw civil war serious and saw that spider-man again almost got killed and punisher had to save him

black panther is a great fighter but he is a street leveler like captain america and daredevil same feats same showings slightly over captain america i would say but overall yes black panther is a street leveler unless he got some super human speed and strength i didnt know about

first of all i know spider-man fights people you dont have to tell me "ohh looky here he was trying to fight iron man that means he isnt scared to fight" ... we all agree that spider-man IS a super hero and he fights people otherwise he wouldnt be a super hero ... but compared to the other heroes he is coward and a nerd sorry to tell you that, its like all those movies where you see the nerd getting beat up and he comes to some braking point where he shows hurt and fights the bad guy but thats not really an imprasive feat its just something impresive compared to what he was before thats all

my point is still valid and you know it.. when spider-man fight someone most of the fight he is trying to avoid and get out the range and only when its safe he is trying to land some blows and thats how he acts overall, he always crying how misruble he is and boo hoo i love mj boo hoo i have great resposibility ... come on if you look at captain america wolverine black panther and then you look at spider-man ... you will say that he is a joke, some people like him because of many things but fighter he is not compared to the real lions of marvel universe like the guys i mentioned

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
i saw civil war serious and saw that spider-man again almost got killed and punisher had to save him

black panther is a great fighter but he is a street leveler like captain america and daredevil same feats same showings slightly over captain america i would say but overall yes black panther is a street leveler unless he got some super human speed and strength i didnt know about

first of all i know spider-man fights people you dont have to tell me "ohh looky here he was trying to fight iron man that means he isnt scared to fight" ... we all agree that spider-man IS a super hero and he fights people otherwise he wouldnt be a super hero ... but compared to the other heroes he is coward and a nerd sorry to tell you that, its like all those movies where you see the nerd getting beat up and he comes to some braking point where he shows hurt and fights the bad guy but thats not really an imprasive feat its just something impresive compared to what he was before thats all

my point is still valid and you know it.. when spider-man fight someone most of the fight he is trying to avoid and get out the range and only when its safe he is trying to land some blows and thats how he acts overall, he always crying how misruble he is and boo hoo i love mj boo hoo i have great resposibility ... come on if you look at captain america wolverine black panther and then you look at spider-man ... you will say that he is a joke, some people like him because of many things but fighter he is not compared to the real lions of marvel universe like the guys i mentioned

Your point is completely invalid-a courageous hero is a courageous hero- and that is what Spiderman has been consistently portrayed as. He fought Scorpion, when powerless, to save the life of another (Jameson)his heart is as great as any of the people you mentioned. Are you telling me that Captain America, Black Panther etc...all go toe to with all their adversaries, and never dodge enemy attacks. Fair enough, you hate the character, but don't post total lies about him

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Your point is completely invalid-a courageous hero is a courageous hero- and that is what Spiderman has been consistently portrayed as. He fought Scorpion, when powerless, to save the life of another (Jameson)his heart is as great as any of the people you mentioned. Are you telling me that Captain America, Black Panther etc...all go toe to with all their adversaries, and never dodge enemy attacks. Fair enough, you hate the character, but don't post total lies about him

yes you got me i hate spider-man so much he raped my sister killed my parents and burned my house i will get him one day

i am lying? tell me he doesnt scarred in half of his fight, tell me that even when he fights characters weaker then him he is avoing everybody and sticking to walls instead of fighting fist 2 fist , he does fight people but compared to others he fight cowardly and its a stone cold fact so dont call poeple lyers just because you are mad and read some of his fights without the fan glasses alright? and tell me if he ever slug it out because 90% of his fights he lands a kick out of nowhere and then jump 1 freakin mile away from his oponnent to safety on some building or something

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
yes you got me i hate spider-man so much he raped my sister killed my parents and burned my house i will get him one day

i am lying? tell me he doesnt scarred in half of his fight, tell me that even when he fights characters weaker then him he is avoing everybody and sticking to walls instead of fighting fist 2 fist , he does fight people but compared to others he fight cowardly and its a stone cold fact so dont call poeple lyers just because you are mad and read some of his fights without the fan glasses alright? and tell me if he ever slug it out because 90% of his fights he lands a kick out of nowhere and then jump 1 freakin mile away from his oponnent to safety on some building or something

One question, iff a fighter was faster than his opponent wouldn't it be smart to dodge and since wenn is it a coward way to fight??
Why would you go toe to toe with someone while you can easy win from him without getting your pretty face smashed in, heck issn't that also what the skilled fighters do dodge or block with the arms and legs roll with the punch and kick.
Not take the punch to the face and smile about it.
And him getting scared won't mean that's a bad think.
Everybody get's some kind of adrenaline rush (well maybe not in comics lol), but that's just normal.

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
yes you got me i hate spider-man so much he raped my sister killed my parents and burned my house i will get him one day

i am lying? tell me he doesnt scarred in half of his fight, tell me that even when he fights characters weaker then him he is avoing everybody and sticking to walls instead of fighting fist 2 fist , he does fight people but compared to others he fight cowardly and its a stone cold fact so dont call poeple lyers just because you are mad and read some of his fights without the fan glasses alright? and tell me if he ever slug it out because 90% of his fights he lands a kick out of nowhere and then jump 1 freakin mile away from his oponnent to safety on some building or something

What is cowardly about fighting smart? -he uses his speed and agility to avoid hits, while landing some of his own. And please check out his fights, he has often gone for the speed blitz on many much more powerful foes, by jumping around them, close enough for them to grab him or hit him, while landing blows of his own-NOT punching/kicking once then hightailing it. Captain America, 1 of the lions you mentioned, doesn't drop his shield when faced with the Hulk, shout "come on then!!" and proceed to swap punches-he doges the the Hulk, and blocks with his shield to avoid getting tagged-do you call him a coward for that??
"stone cold fact"-don't make me laugh

Originally posted by Brutacus
One question, iff a fighter was faster than his opponent wouldn't it be smart to dodge and since wenn is it a coward way to fight??
Why would you go toe to toe with someone while you can easy win from him without getting your pretty face smashed in, heck issn't that also what the skilled fighters do dodge or block with the arms and legs roll with the punch and kick.
Not take the punch to the face and smile about it.
And him getting scared won't mean that's a bad think.
Everybody get's some kind of adrenaline rush (well maybe not in comics lol), but that's just normal.

i never mentioned anything about dodging i mentioned that he always jumps away and just avoiding any contact with his oponnents trying to web them and avoid physical fight as much as posibble, you dont see captain america running to a safe spot to throw his shield from dont you? spider-man is always trying to play it too safe and avoid any physical contact and thats not smart thats just " i dont want to get my ass wooped"

Originally posted by BUSTER1
What is cowardly about fighting smart? -he uses his speed and agility to avoid hits, while landing some of his own. And please check out his fights, he has often gone for the speed blitz on many much more powerful foes, by jumping around them, close enough for them to grab him or hit him, while landing blows of his own-NOT punching/kicking once then hightailing it. Captain America, 1 of the lions you mentioned, doesn't drop his shield when faced with the Hulk, shout "come on then!!" and proceed to swap punches-he doges the the Hulk, and blocks with his shield to avoid getting tagged-do you call him a coward for that??
"stone cold fact"-don't make me laugh

theres a difference between fighting smart and jumping on freaking walls from people who are 20 times weaker then you .... ye a real hero jumping on some freakin wall and shooting webs at a human oponnents... yep... he is baddddd

captain america vs hulk? thats your example? the fact alone that captain america had the gutts to step up against hulk alone say everything there is to say , the hulk can kill him with 1 punch and he went up against him yes he was blocking with his shield because thats the way you fight you knowwww blocking? but spider-man isnt blocking he is jumping away from his oponnets.. now when its against characters like hulk i can see and understand... but against punisher kraven come onnn he doesnt believe in his own powers if he is avoiding characters that are 20 times weaker then him

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
i never mentioned anything about dodging i mentioned that he always jumps away and just avoiding any contact with his oponnents trying to web them and avoid physical fight as much as posibble, you dont see captain america running to a safe spot to throw his shield from dont you? spider-man is always trying to play it too safe and avoid any physical contact and thats not smart thats just " i dont want to get my ass wooped"

"play it TOO safe"-what, as opposed to just playing it normal safe ? you really are clutching at straws to prove a non existent point.

😂 😂 😂

Originally posted by BUSTER1
"play it TOO safe"-what, as opposed to just playing it normal safe ? you really are clutching at straws to prove a non existent point.

😂 😂 😂

no its just the fact you got nothing to say so you go for the well known "try to make fun of your oponnent in order to show he isnt right"

as i said already and will repeat myself, spider-man is avoiding physical contact as much as posibble most his fights and strategy is to give a kick from nowhere... stick to a freakin wall then shoot webs and see what happens.. even when its against patheticly weaker characters then him he still wont just slug it out but will try to avoid a physical fight stick to some wall and try take his oponnent from distance

but my purpose is not to insult the character or his fans but to show why wolverine will always have the adge above him because of his character hope i didnt offend anyone

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
theres a difference between fighting smart and jumping on freaking walls from people who are 20 times weaker then you .... ye a real hero jumping on some freakin wall and shooting webs at a human oponnents... yep... he is baddddd

captain america vs hulk? thats your example? the fact alone that captain america had the gutts to step up against hulk alone say everything there is to say , the hulk can kill him with 1 punch and he went up against him yes he was blocking with his shield because thats the way you fight you knowwww blocking? but spider-man isnt blocking he is jumping away from his oponnets.. now when its against characters like hulk i can see and understand... but against punisher kraven come onnn he doesnt believe in his own powers if he is avoiding characters that are 20 times weaker then him

What is he gonna use to block a punch from the Hulk-last time I checked Spiderman didn't have an indestructable shield-and how about the many times he's taken on gangs of thugs and just waded through them, no leaping away jusst using his strength and holding back agreat deal, to avoid seriously injuring them. Kraven-Spidey has usually beaten him with his fists, rather than webbing him up. Against punisher Spidey always holds back, as Frank is human and basically on the same side .As for you ludicrous claim that spiderman will do anthing to avoid getting hit-why fight crime at all, let alone willingly standing still to let a powerhouse like Mr.hyde, punch him to spare Black Cate life, or knowingly taking a full on charge from Rhino in order to save Silver Sable-my my what a wimpy git

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
no its just the fact you got nothing to say so you go for the well known "try to make fun of your oponnent in order to show he isnt right"

as i said already and will repeat myself, spider-man is avoiding physical contact as much as posibble most his fights and strategy is to give a kick from nowhere... stick to a freakin wall then shoot webs and see what happens.. even when its against patheticly weaker characters then him he still wont just slug it out but will try to avoid a physical fight stick to some wall and try take his oponnent from distance

I have plenty to say to back up the fact that Parker is a courageous hero who will go the limit in a fight-I have given several examples from his long comic book history to back this up. If Spidey was to lose to Wolverine in a slugfest it would be due to a knockout-NEVER to giving up-its something Spiderman doesnt't do

Originally posted by BUSTER1
What is he gonna use to block a punch from the Hulk-last time I checked Spiderman didn't have an indestructable shield-and how about the many times he's taken on gangs of thugs and just waded through them, no leaping away jusst using his strength and holding back agreat deal, to avoid seriously injuring them. Kraven-Spidey has usually beaten him with his fists, rather than webbing him up. Against punisher Spidey always holds back, as Frank is human and basically on the same side .As for you ludicrous claim that spiderman will do anthing to avoid getting hit-why fight crime at all, let alone willingly standing still to let a powerhouse like Mr.hyde, punch him to spare Black Cate life, or knowingly taking a full on charge from Rhino in order to save Silver Sable-my my what a wimpy git

wow spider-man taking a gang of thugs good for him... its like saying i could take a gang of 6 year old kids yep... thats sure impresive feat right there, most of his fights against kraven and punisher he is avoiding them going into safety and shooting webs to take them down, sure some writers write him differently but if we look at him constantly we will see that 90% of his fights are going like that

you just dont get my point do you? yes he is a hero yes we all know he fights crime but what i am trying to say to you and you dont want to understand is that he is lacking the agresion and killer instinct that most fighters have!!!!!, if an EMO kid will sucrifice himself to save his girlfriend or anyone he loves does that proves he got the nature of a fighter? no it just prvoes that spider-man is ready do give his life for the people he cares for he got love and feelings but does it prove he is a lion and got killer instincts at combat? no it doesnt because he is never going to that next step of beating his oponnents and i gave you A LOTTTT!!! of examples which bythe way you didnt refer at all i wounder why...

another example is his fight with wolverine when they both were rolling on the floor and wolverine gave him a kick to the balls and spider-man was down... come on he is mister class 20 mister super human durability whats the matter a kick to the balls is all it takes? you know as well as i do that if it was captain america he would get right back on feet and continue to fight wolverine just like happened in wolverine origins... both wolverine and cap were trashed and they still went at it, now show me where spider-man ever was trashed and kept fighting? every single time that someone trash him and gets the upper hand spider-man is just lying on the floor and taking the beating he gives up and thats what happened when morlun sent him to hospital he doesnt have the fighter spirit in him

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
wow spider-man taking a gang of thugs good for him... its like saying i could take a gang of 6 year old kids yep... thats sure impresive feat right there, most of his fights against kraven and punisher he is avoiding them going into safety and shooting webs to take them down, sure some writers write him differently but if we look at him constantly we will see that 90% of his fights are going like that

you just dont get my point do you? yes he is a hero yes we all know he fights crime but what i am trying to say to you and you dont want to understand is that he is lacking the agresion and killer instinct that most fighters have!!!!!, if an EMO kid will sucrifice himself to save his girlfriend or anyone he loves does that proves he got the nature of a fighter? no it just prvoes that spider-man is ready do give his life for the people he cares for he got love and feelings but does it prove he is a lion and got killer instincts at combat? no it doesnt because he is never going to that next step of beating his oponnents and i gave you A LOTTTT!!! of examples which bythe way you didnt refer at all i wounder why...

another example is his fight with wolverine when they both were rolling on the floor and wolverine gave him a kick to the balls and spider-man was down... come on he is mister class 20 mister super human durability whats the matter a kick to the balls is all it takes? you know as well as i do that if it was captain america he would get right back on feet and continue to fight wolverine just like happened in wolverine origins... both wolverine and cap were trashed and they still went at it, now show me where spider-man ever was trashed and kept fighting? every single time that someone trash him and gets the upper hand spider-man is just lying on the floor and taking the beating he gives up and thats what happened when morlun sent him to hospital he doesnt have the fighter spirit in him

He didn't get up b'cos he was knocked out against Morlun. In the example I gave where Spiderman too a hit from Rhino for Silver Sable, He was virtually out on his feet, but got up to beat Rhino into submission-he wore Rhino down by continuously punching and kicking him while in close proximity, and fighting unconsciousness. Spidrman is a fighter and there is plenty of evidence to back this up-theres over 46 years of comic evidence to back this up

Originally posted by BUSTER1
He didn't get up b'cos he was knocked out against Morlun. In the example I gave where Spiderman too a hit from Rhino for Silver Sable, He was virtually out on his feet, but got up to beat Rhino into submission-he wore Rhino down by continuously punching and kicking him while in close proximity, and fighting unconsciousness. Spidrman is a fighter and there is plenty of evidence to back this up-theres over 46 years of comic evidence to back this up

of course that in 46 years he will have some nice feats but as i said before 90% of his fights are going just the way i said and all the times he lost to much much weaker oponnents.. you know that i am right and my points are not only valid but are facts and you cant debate against facts because on every time he had some nice win he got 500 loses against jokes and against 1 brave thing he did he got 200 situations where you could see clearly he is afraid to fight and is trying to avoid the oponnent and play it safe thats why black cat took most of times characters like lizard and sabretooth for him , of course morlun knocked him out after he was lying down and not responding to the beating he got

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
i never mentioned anything about dodging i mentioned that he always jumps away and just avoiding any contact with his oponnents trying to web them and avoid physical fight as much as posibble, you dont see captain america running to a safe spot to throw his shield from dont you? spider-man is always trying to play it too safe and avoid any physical contact and thats not smart thats just " i dont want to get my ass wooped"

Dude I don't get that how is that not smart???
Why with the skills he got the stick to the wall thing his webbings (even thow he made them, and it's not a power).
His hit and run still just fits his ability's and his weapons.
And how can you play it to save why risk even iff your way better than your enemy, but why risk the change of him beating you while you can just win it save.