wolverine vs spider-man in a slug fight

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
of course that in 46 years he will have some nice feats but as i said before 90% of his fights are going just the way i said and all the times he lost to much much weaker oponnents.. you know that i am right and my points are not only valid but are facts and you cant debate against facts because on every time he had some nice win he got 500 loses against jokes and against 1 brave thing he did he got 200 situations where you could see clearly he is afraid to fight and is trying to avoid the oponnent and play it safe thats why black cat took most of times characters like lizard and sabretooth for him , of course morlun knocked him out after he was lying down and not responding to the beating he got

How are you points valid, where are your facts?? I don't acknowledge yopu as being right as you are completely wrong- nerdy cowardly emo's don't rise to their feet and continue fighting when, the are battered and can barely stay conscious
As for the Morlun fight, what planet are you on-Spiderman gave it everything, he was batttered, exhausted, weakened by a mystery ailment that was killing him-then add top this Morlun ripping his eye out. Then Morlun a 70tonner, batters him-have you ever be punched full in the face by someone several times stronger than you whilst exhausted, dying and in shock from having your eye ripped out-the punch would scramble your brains-hence Spiderman lying there getting punched-the 1st blow would've given him serious concussion, and he wouldn't be able to defend himself, from the following punches. I doubt you'll want to acknowledge this as it doesnt suite your 'arguement'

As for all these times Spiderman has shown cowardice -pls give me some examples-there must be plenty from hundreds you keep banging on about

Originally posted by BUSTER1
How are you points valid, where are your facts?? I don't acknowledge yopu as being right as you are completely wrong- nerdy cowardly emo's don't rise to their feet and continue fighting when, the are battered and can barely stay conscious
As for the Morlun fight, what planet are you on-Spiderman gave it everything, he was batttered, exhausted, weakened by a mystery ailment that was killing him-then add top this Morlun ripping his eye out. Then Morlun a 70tonner, batters him-have you ever be punched full in the face by someone several times stronger than you whilst exhausted, dying and in shock from having your eye ripped out-the punch would scramble your brains-hence Spiderman lying there getting punched-the 1st blow would've given him serious concussion, and he wouldn't be able to defend himself, from the following punches. I doubt you'll want to acknowledge this as it doesnt suite your 'arguement'

As for all these times Spiderman has shown cowardice -pls give me some examples-there must be plenty from hundreds you keep banging on about

and again you say things without backing them up.. when did he ever fight till he couldnt go any more? when was the last time he was exchanging blows to almost death? the fight with morlun was pathetinc apiser-man didnt do anything to him and dont even try to axcuse him he was just getting his ass handed to him without any real fight, without any fighting spirit at all he was just a punching bag who didnt have any fighting spirit in him at least he could try to fight , and again as i stated before even if he does have 2-3 feats like that from all the 64 years he is writen then he got 1000 bad ones over that

i dont remember all the examples and wont give you them all but here are some of them

his cowardly fight with the lizard when he escaped in the middle of the fight in the old amazing spider-man issues

his fight with black panther that during all his fight he was like "ohh no" "damn you are strong"

or the thousand times he got owned by blade and wasnt even fighting just defending himself

or how about the black cat fights where he got owned and again didnt give any real fight

and dont let me start about scorpion owening him and making fun of him while spider-man walks out humiliated, he never fought with anger he always was like the nerd that everybody bully and he just hits back but no agrresion no anything just defending himself

there are tons more but i already gave my point and dont need to give any more because my point is solid and you tryto avoid it by going in circles , even thought i know you will never admit here that i am right but to yourself you know that i am right, you know that spider-man doesnt have the fighting spirit and the hurt of a lion he is a joker that jumps telling jokes and gets owned he is not a real fighter

and all that owenege he gets is considering his incredible agility and speed and he still gets humiliated, if you give captain america wolverine or any right man his abilities they will rockthe marvel universe but spider-man just lack the right character so he will always be a clown

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
and again you say things without backing them up.. when did he ever fight till he couldnt go any more? when was the last time he was exchanging blows to almost death? the fight with morlun was pathetinc apiser-man didnt do anything to him and dont even try to axcuse him he was just getting his ass handed to him without any real fight, without any fighting spirit at all he was just a punching bag who didnt have any fighting spirit in him at least he could try to fight , and again as i stated before even if he does have 2-3 feats like that from all the 64 years he is writen then he got 1000 bad ones over that

i dont remember all the examples and wont give you them all but here are some of them

his cowardly fight with the lizard when he escaped in the middle of the fight in the old amazing spider-man issues

his fight with black panther that during all his fight he was like "ohh no" "damn you are strong"

or the thousand times he got owned by blade and wasnt even fighting just defending himself

or how about the black cat fights where he got owned and again didnt give any real fight

and dont let me start about scorpion owening him and making fun of him while spider-man walks out humiliated, he never fought with anger he always was like the nerd that everybody bully and he just hits back but no agrresion no anything just defending himself

there are tons more but i already gave my point and dont need to give any more because my point is solid and you tryto avoid it by going in circles , even thought i know you will never admit here that i am right but to yourself you know that i am right, you know that spider-man doesnt have the fighting spirit and the hurt of a lion he is a joker that jumps telling jokes and gets owned he is not a real fighter

and all that owenege he gets is considering his incredible agility and speed and he still gets humiliated, if you give captain america wolverine or any right man his abilities they will rockthe marvel universe but spider-man just lack the right character so he will always be a clown

My points are very solid-I have given examples-but you ignore them as bad writing-i have even pinpointed the examples I have given-you just keep falling back on "he gets humiliated by people he shouldn't be losing to" that doesn't lessen his fighting spirit-you obviously didn't read my post Rhino/saving Silver Sable incident properly-in that fight SM was out on his feet but still got up to beat Rhino, who has gone toe to toe with the Hulk. I'm not going in circles-I'm stating a fact shown in countlesscomic books -That Spiderman has guts to keep going, right to the limit.
Spiderman's tendency to tell jokes doesn't make him less determined than more serious characters, like Logan. Sure, he has shown fear. but thats what make him an enduring character-he dopesn't let the fear hold him back from doing the right thing. You say he bottled it from Scorpion I can name an issue-Amazing Spiderman 342-where he fights Scorpion without his powers.
As for Black Cat, Spiderman always holds back against non powered humans-and he sure as hell isn't going to go all out against someone who isn't trying to hurt him. There is a big difference between cowardice and compassion-it doesn't make Spiderman any less a warrior.
And as for the morlun fight -did you read it properly-Spidey didin't look like he was just sitting there taking punches, waitng for death -he gave it everything he had-something you choose to ignore because you argument, far from being solid, is non existent

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Originally posted by BUSTER1
My points are very solid-I have given examples-but you ignore them as bad writing-i have even pinpointed the examples I have given-you just keep falling back on "he gets humiliated by people he shouldn't be losing to" that doesn't lessen his fighting spirit-you obviously didn't read my post Rhino/saving Silver Sable incident properly-in that fight SM was out on his feet but still got up to beat Rhino, who has gone toe to toe with the Hulk. I'm not going in circles-I'm stating a fact shown in countlesscomic books -That Spiderman has guts to keep going, right to the limit.
Spiderman's tendency to tell jokes doesn't make him less determined than more serious characters, like Logan. Sure, he has shown fear. but thats what make him an enduring character-he dopesn't let the fear hold him back from doing the right thing. You say he bottled it from Scorpion I can name an issue-Amazing Spiderman 342-where he fights Scorpion without his powers.
As for Black Cat, Spiderman always holds back against non powered humans-and he sure as hell isn't going to go all out against someone who isn't trying to hurt him. There is a big difference between cowardice and compassion-it doesn't make Spiderman any less a warrior.
And as for the morlun fight -did you read it properly-Spidey didin't look like he was just sitting there taking punches, waitng for death -he gave it everything he had-something you choose to ignore because you argument, far from being solid, is non existent

as i said you are going in circles with me and stating the same thing 1000 times we can do it till next year

why you always bring that same example of him fighting rhino? i gave you so many examples when he was trashed, beat up while just lying and taking it, even was running away in the middle of the fight, all the time you see him only defending himself and jumping to a distance avoiding a real fist fight... why dont you adress that? are those things i made up? no those are things that happened like the fights with lizard where spider-man left the fight in the middle... so again i will say dont yell wolf unless you see one

the fact he tells jokes got no real effection but i just poinet out that he got a light character and more of a joker then a real serious fighter he is a joker that likes to joke and yell woooppyyy during his fights so as a fighter yes he is a joke

you are saying he holds back and doesnt want to hurt people? 😂 ye right because you know with his great great class 20 strength he might just kill everybody... olease class 20 is a freakin joke hell puma is stronger then him and puma went all out with black cat and she didnt die so dont worry , i find it funny that spider-man fans always use the holding back part... is that something you made up? please show some proof that he actually said "ohhh i am getting my ass beat up but i will never fight like a man because i am afraid to hurt somebody"

and the fight with morlun? again he was beat up and trashed without any fighting spirit and without giving a real all out fight dont argue about that because thats what happened

Originally posted by MIXEITUP
as i said you are going in circles with me and stating the same thing 1000 times we can do it till next year

why you always bring that same example of him fighting rhino? i gave you so many examples when he was trashed, beat up while just lying and taking it, even was running away in the middle of the fight, all the time you see him only defending himself and jumping to a distance avoiding a real fist fight... why dont you adress that? are those things i made up? no those are things that happened like the fights with lizard where spider-man left the fight in the middle... so again i will say dont yell wolf unless you see one

the fact he tells jokes got no real effection but i just poinet out that he got a light character and more of a joker then a real serious fighter he is a joker that likes to joke and yell woooppyyy during his fights so as a fighter yes he is a joke

you are saying he holds back and doesnt want to hurt people? 😂 ye right because you know with his great great class 20 strength he might just kill everybody... olease class 20 is a freakin joke hell puma is stronger then him and puma went all out with black cat and she didnt die so dont worry , i find it funny that spider-man fans always use the holding back part... is that something you made up? please show some proof that he actually said "ohhh i am getting my ass beat up but i will never fight like a man because i am afraid to hurt somebody"

and the fight with morlun? again he was beat up and trashed without any fighting spirit and without giving a real all out fight dont argue about that because thats what happened

Are you just winding me up mate?? Because if so job done- I was tired and wasn't thinking straight. You wre obviously on a wind up -and I fell for it!

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