Gray Jedi

Grey Jedi is a poor term since Star Wars runs a completely different set of ethics and morals than the real world. In SW moral absolutes are real things. If you use the Dark Side, it's BAD, if you use the Light Side it's GOOD. There is no in between because such things don't exist in SW. Bioware and Obsidian tried broaden SW's narrow take on the Force but failed.

Oh no, not the Grey argument...

I agree with Autokrat. Bioware failed miserably in trying to alter the moral boundaries of Star Wars. Jolee Bindo is an extremely uninteresting character, on top of that...

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Ummm....Dude....read my description of Grey\Rogue Jedi....YOU JUST HELPED MY POINT.

No, I refuted your point.

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Again...READ WHAT I TYPED...Rogue\Gray JEDI ARE THE SAME o.o....except one is depicted to be more rebellious than the other...but they are essentially the same....

And them useing BOTH sides of the force is just an indication...We are talking about their belifs and their ability or not to follow rules...

I did, and you are wrong. Rogue Jedi are Jedi who have left the Order and are doing terrible things. They are Dark Siders, not Grey. Renegade Jedi are Jedi who just like to work on their own terms but are still Jedi. They are Light Siders, not Grey. Nor are Rogue and Renegade the same.

You cannot use both sides. Nor do many of the people on your list even believe in what you are saying is the Gray Jedi mentality.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Well someone's got a chip. "Grey" is a word, not a CGI TV series. Don't get so worked up.

Words are used to define concepts, and this concept is inane, and gets to the heart of what is so very very wrong with a lot of the EU and large areas of fandom.

some one really needs to close this befor people start popping up at other peoples homes committing murders o.o...I hate to see Ush or Garak at my front door step with a 9mm Pistol aimed at me o.o.....

I'm personally not against the idea of "Grey Jedi" since it would be a more realistic portrayal then the strict lines of black and white that GL has laid down, but it just doesn't work very well.

And Vor WTF?

I do agree to an extent. The idea of a moral "middle-ground" fuelling Force-powers isn't bad, just the way it's portrayed in the mythos. As good as KotOR was, it shouldn't be the groundbreaker of the concept.

Originally posted by Alkaselzer
Oh no, not the Grey argument...

I agree with Autokrat. Bioware failed miserably in trying to alter the moral boundaries of Star Wars. Jolee Bindo is an extremely uninteresting character, on top of that...

Correction: Bioware did very little to advance the 'gray Jedi' concept. It was Obsidian, the butcher of KotOR 2 that did that. Bioware did a phenomenal job.

Yeah, Jolee's awesome.

I don't like Jolee, but I agree that Obsidian is the one that ****ed up everything. And not just the Gray concept. ermm

Um, Vor? No. We're not going to shoot you over this. That's just dumb.

Originally posted by Captain REX
I don't like Jolee, but I agree that Obsidian is the one that ****ed up everything. And not just the Gray concept. ermm

Um, Vor? No. We're not going to shoot you over this. That's just dumb.

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WTF.

Uh, do you not recall that one little incident where you and Ush blackbagged me, kidnapped me, and took me to Guantanamo Bay?

Don't believe REX, folks. He's a fannapper!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO GIDEON PROTECT MEH!!!!!! 🙁 *Locks doors and sits in a rocking chair infront of door with a M-16* SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!!!!

We're not talking about that, Gideon. 😐

And it's no use, Vor. We've already infiltrated your home.

Do you mean gay jedi or gray jedi? All jedi are gay(except anakin) and revan is the gayest of em all.

There are no 'Grey Jedi', as REX said. Such term is senseless in the SWU.

Jolee is no 'Grey Jedi', even when he claims otherwise. He clearly follows the light. That's just plain obvious.

Just because he disagrees with the Order's ways of thinking, it doesn't mean he doesn't follow the light.

It's a term, no more.

I think they should just come up with a more accurate phrase for it. Then it would be more clear.

*sshole Jedi would fit. Or Non-Conformist Jedi.

non jedi might be the word... since a jedi is a title given by the jedi council. If you don't conform to the order to the Jedi, you aren't one, you are just a force user.

Originally posted by Captain REX
We're not talking about that, Gideon. 😐

And it's no use, Vor. We've already infiltrated your home.

Ya rex is a ninja... BEWARE!!