Zabuza vs Kisame
I am pretty sure this has been dont before but check this out. The official stats on Kisame finally came out and basically the only thing he has for him is his chakra supply and his strength. So lets say Zabuza's stats would of went up just like ever other character has would he win?
And the fight is never a large body of water.
Kisame...He was the strongest Mist Swordsman and has better feats.
Gai had to open 6 Gates to beat a Kisame clone with 30% chakra.
Kisame is physically stronger and is as fast or faster.
Kisame wields a better sword, which is also able to absorb chakra.
Kisame has used better Water Jutsu IMO.
Kisame has uber haxx.
kisame called zabuza a "kid Apparently you didnt read the question. I didn't ask who had better feats and i said if Zabuza stats would of increased like everybody elses would he win. And what does Kisame callling Zabuza a kid have to do with who is stronger or who would of been stronger if Zabuza lived? We don't know why Kisame called Zabuza a kid. It could of been because he was older or because he didnt like Zabuza.
Zabuza Momochi pre-chunin exam stats
Taijutsu 9
Genjutsu 5
Ninjutsu 9
Intelligence 6
Hand Seal 8
Speed 8
Strength 8
Chakra 8
Kisame Hoshigake Time Skipped stats
Taijustu 9
Genjutsu 5
Ninjutsu 9
Intelligence 6
Handseal 7
Speed 8
Strength 10
Chakra 10
These are the offical stats from the shows creator.
One thing else most of you dont get. Kisame's clone has 30 percent of his chakra. That has nothing to do with his other ninja abilites. Then look at who has fighting. Might Gai who has no real ninjutsu or handseal ability and look who Zabuza faced. Kakashi the most skilled Jonin in The Hidden Leaf Village and both times they faced Zabuza had the upperhand.
^ since we're using kakashi as a go-between now, gai is a known rival of his and the two are close peers in ninja abilities dispite their different ways of fighting. kakashi, a couple genin, and some villagers killed zabuza.
gai going close to all out, barely defeated a 30% chackra clone of kisame, who was the strongest member of the hidden mist's 7 swordsman.
kisame single handedly beat down the four-tails for christ's sake.
^ since we're using kakashi as a go-between now, gai is a known rival of his and the two are close peers in ninja abilities dispite their different ways of fighting. kakashi, a couple genin, and some villagers killed zabuza.
gai going close to all out, barely defeated a 30% chackra clone of kisame, who was the strongest member of the hidden mist's 7 swordsman.
kisame single handedly beat down the four-tails for christ's sake.
Cute. I could of sworn Zabuza had Kakashi beat in their first fight and i could of sworn Kakashi actually said if Naruto and Sasuke didnt help him he would of been killed. You know what having 30 percent chakra means? Apparenlty you people dont. Maybe you should ask some person who knows about Naruto to expalin it to you. The more chakra you have the more stamina you have. The more chakra you have the bigger creature you can summon. Having chakra doenst make you strong.
Good lord. Itachi's chakra supply is probably the lowest of any adult male character in the show so based off you peoples logic he is pretty weak then. Fighting Might Gai and fighting somebody with the Sharingan is a whole different thing. Might Gai is a idiot with a lot of speed, power and chakra but nohting else.
AND I SAID IF ZABUZA WOULD OF STAYED ALIVE AND HIS HAD HIS NUMBERS INCREASE LIKE EVERY OTHER CHARACTER WOULD HE OF WON.
Originally posted by big juggy man1. ZOMG NO WAI!? Kisame at 30% was pwning Gai and his whole team. Wanna know what 30% chakra means? Less chakra to use for attacks and put in them, making attacks less powerful and lowering the amount of times you can do them, less strength since you cannot use as much to amp your strength, less speed since you cannot use it to amp speed, yeah, having less chakra means something.
Cute. I could of sworn Zabuza had Kakashi beat in their first fight and i could of sworn Kakashi actually said if Naruto and Sasuke didnt help him he would of been killed. You know what having 30 percent chakra means? Apparenlty you people dont. Maybe you should ask some person who knows about Naruto to expalin it to you. The more chakra you have the more stamina you have. The more chakra you have the bigger creature you can summon. Having chakra doenst make you strong.Good lord. Itachi's chakra supply is probably the lowest of any adult male character in the show so based off you peoples logic he is pretty weak then. Fighting Might Gai and fighting somebody with the Sharingan is a whole different thing. Might Gai is a idiot with a lot of speed, power and chakra but nohting else.
AND I SAID IF ZABUZA WOULD OF STAYED ALIVE AND HIS HAD HIS NUMBERS INCREASE LIKE EVERY OTHER CHARACTER WOULD HE OF WON.
...Why does Itachi have the lowest chakra supply of any adult male character? That is unfounded. Gai is faster than any Sharingan user barring Madara and Itachi MAYBE, he is stronger, better at Taijutsu, and then there is the fact that he is Kakashi's equal. Gai is one of Leaf's strongest Jonin. And Zabuza did not "pwn" Kakashi by any stretch of the imagination, sure, he was able to hold the upperhand in their fights a few times, but Kakashi did the same. Both were about equal.
Not likely, the adult character's stats are mostly unchanged.
You recall wrong. Nothing of the sort occurred
Lol me wrong? Maybe you should watch the episode again. Zabuza trapped Kakashi and if it wasnt for Naruto and Saskuke saving him he would of died. Try again.
Dark Jaxx did you create Naruto? Because the guy who did says Itachi's chakra is only about a 5 out of 10 which is lower than Zabuza. Maybe you should create your own manga and then you can decide what characters can do what. If the person who created this show says something then I will take his word for it and not base my opinions on what character i think is cooler
First Manga Appearance: Chapter 139
First Anime Appearance: Naruto Episode 80
Name Meaning: Uchiha=wa/ha character switch to make "fan"; Itachi=Weasel
Hidden Village: Leaf Village
Rank: At least Chuunin, but high Jounin level in skill (Missing-Nin)
Age: 21
Signature Abilities: Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi
Notable Features: Sasuke's Older Brother, Wiped out his clan, S-Ranked Criminal.
See also: Hoshigaki Kisame, Uchiha Sasuke
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Personal Stats
Total Stats
Latent Potential Unknown
Luck Unknown
Databook 3 Stats|Data
Advancement Data
Academy Grad Age: 7
Sharingan Activation: 8
Chuunin Exam Age: 10
Missions Completed
D-Rank: 53
C-Rank: 152
B-Rank: 134
A-Rank: 0
S-Rank: 1
Don't take the stats too literal, its obviously not exact, it has things like Orochimaru's genjutsu is 5, and Itachi's genjutsu is 5, does that mean Orochimaru's genjutsu is on par with Itachi's?
a couple other examples are Gaara's Ninjutsu is 5 so is Sasuke, and so is Orochimarus, Gaara and Sasuke have ninjutsu on par with Orochimaru?
Originally posted by Terryc250
Don't take the stats too literal, its obviously not exact, it has things like Orochimaru's genjutsu is 5, and Itachi's genjutsu is 5, does that mean Orochimaru's genjutsu is on par with Itachi's?a couple other examples are Gaara's Ninjutsu is 5 so is Sasuke, and so is Orochimarus, Gaara and Sasuke have ninjutsu on par with Orochimaru?
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