big juggy man
Senior Member
Juggy Man is an idiot.
Kisame would win. Even if Zabuza lived and got a boost Kisame would still win.
When Kakashi got serious and used his Sharignan he whooped Zabuza's ass and at one point knocked the shit out of him without even looking at him.
Gai had to use one of his strongest, perhaps thee strongest technique in his aresenal to defeat a man who was using only 30% of his power.
Those are the facts. That is end.
Comic book forum insults is all you got? Lol does that suppose to hurt me? Apparenlty you dont watch Naruto much do you? When Kakashi got serious he beat Zabuza's ass? So at first Kakashi a elite Jonin who had 3 chunin and Gato with him would toy with a crazed killer? I think you are the retarded one. If the creator of the show had Kakashi say if it wasnt for Naruto and Sasuke helping him in the first fight he would of died then i will take that over some moron in a forum.
If Kakashi didnt summon his dogs in the second fight he would of lost. Not to mention there was no way Zabuza of Haku could win their respective fights. You know Naruto wasnt or Sasuke wasnt going to die that early in the series. Haku and Zabuza had to die to keep the plot going foward.
If the officail stats say during the 3 or 4 years after Zabuza died Kisame and Zabuza pre-chunnin stats are basically the same besides Kisame having a 10 in strength and Chakra compared to Zabuza's 8 in those stats i will take that over some dumb dumb going " Kisame has some cool feats" What does feats have to with the creator of the show telling you?
Itachi has a 10 in speed but in his first fight with Kakashi was he running around like Rock Lee who had only a 8 speed at the time when eh fought Gaara. Every character on Naruto fights a different way and a differen way when fighting different oppenents. Do you think Zabuza would of needed to do the Hidden Mist Jutsu against a person who didnt have the Sharingan? How many times have you seen Itachi use the chidori even though he probably knows it since he seen Kakashi and Sasuke use it. You can't base these fantasy fights off feats alone.
This isn't Dragonball Z either where most of the characters power at the end of the serise were nothing compared to the Saiyans. If you are a elite Jonin in the begging of Naruto then you are a elite Jonin later on. Every character in Naruto continues to grow stronger too which is why i like the show. Logic would show that Zabuza would of learn something new and grew in power just like every other character.
Whatever though, I wanted to see people think outside of the box but all i get are childish insults.