Black Adam/Captain Marvel vs Wonderwoman/Orion

Originally posted by carver9
So even though superman admitted on panel that black adam is his equal and captain marvel is his superior.................... 😕

scans please. IM a huge BA and captian marvel fan but i was never aware that superman at anytime mentioned cap as his superior.

However i do know superman has mentioned that BA hits alot harder then cap.

BA and captian marvel are clones almost they are very close but not quite the equals to supes. But both are very capeable of defeating supes. Cap has several times beat supes over the years. The diffrence between BA and cap is ba is permenently pissed off and aims to kill anyone he fights. Even though hes the same in power set to Cap his anger just amplifies his power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Actually CM is the weak link. He's less skilled than the others.

I dunno if hes the weak link her fangirl.

Id say his duribility is above WW. Diana will take caps punches better due to her high resistance to magic. I have never seen WW or captian marvel defeat one or the other. I have seen WW lasso captian marvel 1 time and he allowed it to happen so aint sure on this one. If it comes down to ba and WW. Wondy is toast. However due to the fact that ba is aiming to kill her she may step up to the plate. WW does better against fighters that are not her friends.

BUt i do agree with you on skill. Captian marvel is no where even close to as skilled as WW in fighting.

Also what version of BA are we talking about ?

Orion and BA are out right brawlers not fighters.

orion and WW i think

Originally posted by fangirl101
Are you kidding me? She's the best fighter among everyone. She already stalemated Captain Marvel 3 upgrades ago.

Stalemated and shes a better fighter. Thats saying something for captian marvel or just downgradeing Wonder Woman.

This is a hard one id still have to say if they both went all out id give it to cap and thats saying alot casue WW is no slouch.

Originally posted by zeel
Stalemated and shes a better fighter. Thats saying something for captian marvel or just downgradeing Wonder Woman.

This is a hard one id still have to say if they both went all out id give it to cap and thats saying alot casue WW is no slouch.

You really can't take what Superman says into consideration.

He always plays up everyone. When The Atom shrinks, Superman is all, "I had no idea The Atom was so powerful?!?".

Plastic Man stretches and Superman goes, "His power is staggering!".

Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
You really can't take what Superman says into consideration.

He always plays up everyone. When The Atom shrinks, Superman is all, "I had no idea The Atom was so powerful?!?".

Not gonna make people happy, but fuk it.

Team One.

WW is an inferior to Superman in speed, durability and strength.

Cap and Teth are presented as peers or equals to Superman in physical stats.

So we have three peers to Superman and one inferior, tho his superior in skill.

The team with the inferior loses.

Cap already handled a team with WW on it in Underworld unleashed.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Not gonna make people happy, but fuk it.

Team One.

WW is an inferior to Superman in speed, durability and strength.

Cap and Teth are presented as peers or equals to Superman in physical stats.

So we have three peers to Superman and one inferior, tho his superior in skill.

The team with the inferior loses.

Cap already handled a team with WW on it in Underworld unleashed.

What we have is One Superior to Everyone in physical stats. And That is Orion. The only thing he isn't superior in is speed. And The thread starter says no one gets to use speed.

When it comes to blunt for trauma, Everyone is on equal footing.

CM is cleary the inferior in skills. By Far. Which leaves Wondy and Orion who are both superior to team one with skills.

That's like taking Wolverine and comparing him to the thing. Thing may be a bit stonger. But Wolverine's skills have him beating the crap out of thing.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Not gonna make people happy, but fuk it.

Team One.

WW is an inferior to Superman in speed, durability and strength.

Cap and Teth are presented as peers or equals to Superman in physical stats.

So we have three peers to Superman and one inferior, tho his superior in skill.

The team with the inferior loses.

Cap already handled a team with WW on it in Underworld unleashed.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Not gonna make people happy, but fuk it.

Team One.

WW is an inferior to Superman in speed, durability and strength.

Cap and Teth are presented as peers or equals to Superman in physical stats.

So we have three peers to Superman and one inferior, tho his superior in skill.

The team with the inferior loses.

Cap already handled a team with WW on it in Underworld unleashed.

👆

captain marvel and ba are both superman equal in EVERYTHING, theres no telling how many times superman have admitted this on panel.

Originally posted by fangirl101
What doesn't make me happy is when you dont' know what you are talking about and pretend that you do.

What we have is One Superior to Everyone in physical stats. And That is Orion. The only thing he isn't superior in is speed. And The thread starter says no one gets to use speed.

When it comes to blunt for trauma, Everyone is on equal footing.

CM is cleary the inferior in skills. By Far. Which leaves Wondy and Orion who are both superior to team one with skills.

That's like taking Wolverine and comparing him to the thing. Thing may be a bit stonger. But Wolverine's skills have him beating the crap out of thing.

We've done this dance so many times Nvr.

Time to take it all apart.

Nothing we've seen from Orion puts him above the Marvels in stats.

Matter of fact, the one time Teth and Orion even faced off in Power of Shazam, it was inconclusive, it was so brief.

The only edge i'll give Orion on the Marvels clearly, is firepower. Durability, strength, etc? Nothing puts him above them.

When it comes to blunt force trauma, we've got Superman got Superman dropping Diana with a fist to the back of the head.

CM is the inferior in skills, certainly.

But he already handled a group with Diana AND MM while he had a broken arm, no less in UU.

We've got one guy who dismissed Superman when he didn't want to be bothered(Teth), another guy who years ago was beaten by Eclipso Superman, and then years later stalemates Eclipso Superman, and is his true(in the sense of the word) rival in DC. Can't forget, we've got
Orion, who's tangoed with Superman his share of times, and is another true rival.

And then we've got Diana, who's best showing against Superman is one where her biggest feat is merely surviving against an enraged Superman who thought he was fighting a more durable, stronger, larger but slower and brawling monster without projectile attacks.

Diana is the weak link here Nvr.

And Wolverines skills don't let him take down the thing, it's his skeleton, hf and cut nearly anything claws.

Lol, his skills....

Originally posted by UniOmni
We've done this dance so many times Nvr.

Time to take it all apart.

Nothing we've seen from Orion puts him above the Marvels in stats.

Matter of fact, the one time Teth and Orion even faced off in Power of Shazam, it was inconclusive, it was so brief.

The only edge i'll give Orion on the Marvels clearly, is firepower. Durability, strength, etc? Nothing puts him above them.

When it comes to blunt force trauma, we've got Superman got Superman dropping Diana with a fist to the back of the head.

CM is the inferior in skills, certainly.

But he already handled a group with Diana AND MM while he had a broken arm, no less in UU.

We've got one guy who dismissed Superman when he didn't want to be bothered(Teth), another guy who years ago was beaten by Eclipso Superman, and then years later stalemates Eclipso Superman, and is his true(in the sense of the word) rival in DC. Can't forget, we've got
Orion, who's tangoed with Superman his share of times, and is another true rival.

And then we've got Diana, who's best showing against Superman is one where her biggest feat is merely surviving against an enraged Superman who thought he was fighting a more durable, stronger, larger but slower and brawling monster without projectile attacks.

Diana is the weak link here Nvr.

And Wolverines skills don't let him take down the thing, it's his skeleton, hf and cut nearly anything claws.

Lol, his skills....

Next thing, Wondy was mind controlled in under world unleashed. your example fails.

Wondy certainly was not dropped from a fist to the back of the head. Or don't you remember they had a fight after that first punch. Selective memory is bad for debators.

CM has held his own with Superman due to his magical punches.

Originally posted by fangirl101
What doesn't make me happy is when you dont' know what you are talking about and pretend that you do.

Originally posted by UniOmni
We've done this dance so many times Nvr.

Diana is the weak link here Nvr.

Please keep it civil. The LAST thing I want is any more nonsense getting people warned or worse. Thanks.

A BA vs. Orion slugfest would be so fun to watch.

I think Team Two wins. Orion isn't going to be put down by either one of these guys and has more stamina than them. Both of Team Two has Team One beat in MA skills.

Originally posted by UniOmni
We've done this dance so many times Nvr.

Time to take it all apart.

Nothing we've seen from Orion puts him above the Marvels in stats.

Matter of fact, the one time Teth and Orion even faced off in Power of Shazam, it was inconclusive, it was so brief.

The only edge i'll give Orion on the Marvels clearly, is firepower. Durability, strength, etc? Nothing puts him above them.

When it comes to blunt force trauma, we've got Superman got Superman dropping Diana with a fist to the back of the head.

CM is the inferior in skills, certainly.

But he already handled a group with Diana AND MM while he had a broken arm, no less in UU.

We've got one guy who dismissed Superman when he didn't want to be bothered(Teth), another guy who years ago was beaten by Eclipso Superman, and then years later stalemates Eclipso Superman, and is his true(in the sense of the word) rival in DC. Can't forget, we've got
Orion, who's tangoed with Superman his share of times, and is another true rival.

And then we've got Diana, who's best showing against Superman is one where her biggest feat is merely surviving against an enraged Superman who thought he was fighting a more durable, stronger, larger but slower and brawling monster without projectile attacks.

Diana is the weak link here Nvr.

And Wolverines skills don't let him take down the thing, it's his skeleton, hf and cut nearly anything claws.

Lol, his skills....

Well said mate, Logan's attributes in his claw are what gets him past the peeps he does.

on panel proof that captain marvel has owned superman.
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sb0416lg3.jpg

Superman at unbelief of captain marvels powers.
http://pics.livejournal.com/jeanne_dark/pic/0007paw2
http://pics.livejournal.com/jeanne_dark/pic/0007q8q4

Even though this isnt canon but this is one of the most powerful superman and he admitted also that captain marvel is faster.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/756/scan10062joinmw8.jpg

Another one of the most powerful versions of superman admitting that captain marvel is his equal.
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/3526/marvel1a25qp.gif

Originally posted by carver9
on panel proof that captain marvel has owned superman.
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sb0416lg3.jpg

Superman at unbelief of captain marvels powers.
http://pics.livejournal.com/jeanne_dark/pic/0007paw2
http://pics.livejournal.com/jeanne_dark/pic/0007q8q4

Even though this isnt canon but this is one of the most powerful superman and he admitted also that captain marvel is faster.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/756/scan10062joinmw8.jpg

Another one of the most powerful versions of superman admitting that captain marvel is his equal.
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/3526/marvel1a25qp.gif

Originally posted by fangirl101
Posting parts of fights doesn't get you the victory. And using non canon material too? Shame.

It wasnt the fight that I was posting with cap and superman I was posting that captain marvel said that he owned superman TWICE (actually 3 times) in the past.

The reason I used non cannon feats is due to the fact that the versions of the supermans that I posted is the most powerful versions of superman and captain marvel was still his superior or equal, however you want to put it.