Originally posted by fangirl101
If you call me nvr one more time, I'm going to have you banned.Next thing, Wondy was mind controlled in under world unleashed. your example fails.
Wondy certainly was not dropped from a fist to the back of the head. Or don't you remember they had a fight after that first punch. Selective memory is bad for debators.
CM has held his own with Superman due to his magical punches.
CM has held his own against Superman on the viability of his own brute presence.
His charged punches give him the edge.
And there's a clear history of WW vs Superman being WW fighting an uphill battle.
Sacrifice, For Tomorrow, League of One.
Cap vs Superman is always presented as equals at war.
Argue till you're blue and wheezing, but history agrees.
Taken apart, debunked and buried.
Good day madam.
Originally posted by UniOmni
CM has held his own against Superman on the viability of his own brute presence.His charged punches give him the edge.
And there's a clear history of WW vs Superman being WW fighting an uphill battle.
Sacrifice, For Tomorrow, League of One.
Cap vs Superman is always presented as equals at war.
Argue till you're blue and wheezing, but history agrees.
Taken apart, debunked and buried.
Good day madam.
Wondy has never once fought Superman going all out. Ever. And Superman isn't in this fight. Wondy did match CM before she recieved her 2nd and third upgrades. And She didn't want to fight him then. Wondy has put a hurting on Superman, Konvict, White Martians, knocked CA out with one punch, etc. She's more than able to beat CM in a fist fight when he's so far below her in skill. His power means nothing when she's his equal. And if you don't believe she's his equal, she's still so close in range that her skill more than makes up for it.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Wondy has never once fought Superman going all out. Ever. And Superman isn't in this fight. Wondy did match CM before she recieved her 2nd and third upgrades. And She didn't want to fight him then. Wondy has put a hurting on Superman, Konvict, White Martians, knocked CA out with one punch, etc. She's more than able to beat CM in a fist fight when he's so far below her in skill. His power means nothing when she's his equal. And if you don't believe she's his equal, she's still so close in range that her skill more than makes up for it.
I'm going to hate saying this but fan girl is right about one thing in this post, well actually two, wonder woman has never went all out in a fight with superman, and wonderwoman is superman, captain marvel, and possibly black adams equal. All possess long range powers but wonder woman skill make up for that. She could basically outfight everyone that I have named, which she has already shown on panel against a all out superman, that was sun amped, and wasnt holding back.
The thing about captain marvel is that I consider him to be a notch above superman due to his speed and durability. Even though superman is fast in my mind Im thinking that cap is his superior due to his godly speed.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to hate saying this but fan girl is right about one thing in this post, well actually two, wonder woman has never went all out in a fight with superman, and wonderwoman is superman, captain marvel, and possibly black adams equal. All possess long range powers but wonder woman skill make up for that. She could basically outfight everyone that I have named, which she has already shown on panel against a all out superman, that was sun amped, and wasnt holding back.The thing about captain marvel is that I consider him to be a notch above superman due to his speed and durability. Even though superman is fast in my mind Im thinking that cap is his superior due to his godly speed.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Wondy has blocked a blast from the avatar that gives CM his speed. His avatar and hers are the same. It was explained in a wonder woman story line that the Gods split into two pantheons from the same beings.
I know these things and I know how powerful wonder woman is and she is far away from being the wink link in this battle. No one is the wink link here. I think that wonder woman has the potential to basically beat anyone on the jla roster besides the martian, thats why she is always the last one standing when fighting beings like amazo, konvikt, hell, she even gave titus the most trouble.
The reason I give captain marvel and ba the win is due to the fact that I just think that captain marvel is truly one of the most powerful top tiers in dc and ba, I dont even have to tell you about him since he did rip someone in half ON PANEL.
Wonder woman will give any of them a run for there money and could possibly beat captain marvel and ba but again I just give a small edge to captain marvel against a lot of top tiers due to how dc displays him in comics. He is about one of the only beings in dc that could kill superman with one punch.
Originally posted by fangirl101
At the time she hadn't gotten her 2nd and 3rd upgrades.
the thing with wondy is she needs to many upgrade to hang wirth the best. How many upgrades has cap had vs wondy. There is a list a mile long wonderwoman needs all theses upgrades jujst to hang with supes and cap.
Originally posted by fangirl101
What doesn't make me happy is when you dont' know what you are talking about and pretend that you do.What we have is One Superior to Everyone in physical stats. And That is Orion. The only thing he isn't superior in is speed. And The thread starter says no one gets to use speed.
When it comes to blunt for trauma, Everyone is on equal footing.
CM is cleary the inferior in skills. By Far. Which leaves Wondy and Orion who are both superior to team one with skills.
That's like taking Wolverine and comparing him to the thing. Thing may be a bit stonger. But Wolverine's skills have him beating the crap out of thing.
You make it sound like orion is SOOOO far above the rest in physical stats. Yes his base stats are above the others but not by much. this is the same argument some supes fans have against BA and marvel.
Originally posted by zeel
the thing with wondy is she needs to many upgrade to hang wirth the best. How many upgrades has cap had vs wondy. There is a list a mile long wonderwoman needs all theses upgrades jujst to hang with supes and cap.
The thing is, Superman was getting upgrades too. Surfer just got an upgrade. Flash got a couple of upgrades. Don't do it please.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Wondy has never once fought Superman going all out. Ever. And Superman isn't in this fight. Wondy did match CM before she recieved her 2nd and third upgrades. And She didn't want to fight him then. Wondy has put a hurting on Superman, Konvict, White Martians, knocked CA out with one punch, etc. She's more than able to beat CM in a fist fight when he's so far below her in skill. His power means nothing when she's his equal. And if you don't believe she's his equal, she's still so close in range that her skill more than makes up for it.
ARRGGGG supes and captian marvel dont go all out on her either quit stateing half the facts.
Very simple.
Base stats
1 superman
2 prolly cap then WW
they are all capeable of defeating each other under the right circumstances geesh this is only comics.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Wondy has never once fought Superman going all out. Ever. And Superman isn't in this fight. Wondy did match CM before she recieved her 2nd and third upgrades. And She didn't want to fight him then. Wondy has put a hurting on Superman, Konvict, White Martians, knocked CA out with one punch, etc. She's more than able to beat CM in a fist fight when he's so far below her in skill. His power means nothing when she's his equal. And if you don't believe she's his equal, she's still so close in range that her skill more than makes up for it.
lets see wondy do something with out upgrade number 1,23,4,5 655906847569894577 wony is to dependant on UPGRADES. and toys.
wondy by herelf falls to cap and supes unless shes willing to kill. Dont pull the lasso crap that is the most over power item in comics and does not need to be on a mortals waist.
Originally posted by zeel
ARRGGGG supes and captian marvel dont go all out on her either quit stateing half the facts.Very simple.
Base stats
1 superman
2 prolly cap then WW
they are all capeable of defeating each other under the right circumstances geesh this is only comics.
Supeman says that after himself, he considers WW the earth's next line of defense.
Batman states that if WW were to go rogue, Superman is the only force on earth that could contain her.
And yes they are able to defeat each other. Superman more often than not unless the magicals start playing unfair.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to hate saying this but fan girl is right about one thing in this post, well actually two, wonder woman has never went all out in a fight with superman, and wonderwoman is superman, captain marvel, and possibly black adams equal. All possess long range powers but wonder woman skill make up for that. She could basically outfight everyone that I have named, which she has already shown on panel against a all out superman, that was sun amped, and wasnt holding back.The thing about captain marvel is that I consider him to be a notch above superman due to his speed and durability. Even though superman is fast in my mind Im thinking that cap is his superior due to his godly speed.
BA > captian marvel
BTW side note
supes has beat captian marvel
but supes has never been able to beat black adam.
last time ba and supes fough superman's outfit was torn his hair was a mess and his caped torn up.
BA didnt even break a sweat and he was not even interested in the fight.
WW going all out is a dangerous site, she never goes all out against a freind. BUT yet again supes and cap dont go all out on her.
I would love to see a well written fight with WW vs BA or ba vs orion that would be awsome.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Supeman says that after himself, he considers WW the earth's next line of defense.Batman states that if WW were to go rogue, Superman is the only force on earth that could contain her.
And yes they are able to defeat each other. Superman more often than not unless the magicals start playing unfair.
Wanna know why he says that fangirl.
IT sells comics and there has to be a all powerful female in comics so they picked WW! And as far as what batman said. That is just hype for WW fans. they have to maintain a female presence in comic and wondy is that. All theses quotes in comics ...........you guys you cant really rely on them comics change all the time.
But think what ya like.
There are many toons in dc that could contain WonderWoman. And if you gave her all of her gear. Im sorry but superman would not contian her she would rip him apart, as fan girl brought up she has like 5 million upgrades.
Originally posted by zeel
Wanna know why he says that fangirl.IT sells comics and there has to be a all powerful female in comics so they picked WW! And as far as what batman said. That is just hype for WW fans. they have to maintain a female presence in comic and wondy is that. All theses quotes in comics ...........you guys you cant really rely on them comics change all the time.
But think what ya like.
There are many toons in dc that could contain WonderWoman. And if you gave her all of her gear. Im sorry but superman would not contian her she would rip him apart, as fan girl brought up she has like 5 million upgrades.
[QUOTE=11204789]Originally posted by zeel
[B]Wanna know why he says that fangirl.
IT sells comics and there has to be a all powerful female in comics so they picked WW! And as far as what batman said. That is just hype for WW fans. they have to maintain a female presence in comic and wondy is that. All theses quotes in comics ...........you guys you cant really rely on them comics change all the time.
But think what ya like.
There are many toons in dc that could contain WonderWoman. And if you gave her all of her gear. Im sorry but superman would not contian her she would rip him apart, as fan girl brought up she has like 5 million upgrades.
Wonder Woman suffers from i need massive upgrades to keep up with the best. And im not takeing nothing away from wonderwoman either.