Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Got any proof to back up your wild claims?Because Sasuke was equal to Haku in speed, right before Lee assraped him in their first meeting.
Ok, if we know that Haku isn't trained by Oro, how can I prove them? You just know that his 2nd curse mark state will be speed with lee.
Yeah equal speed without the curse mark, with it, Haku>Sasuke.
Originally posted by Wil7
Ok, if we know that Haku isn't trained by Oro, how can I prove them? You just know that his 2nd curse mark state will be speed with lee.Yeah equal speed without the curse mark, with it, Haku>Sasuke.
Sasuke was faster than Haku before they ever entered the chuunin exam :/
Sasuke's received 3 speed boosts since then, at least.
...No proof?
Well we know he got a speed boost from Kakashi, making him Lee's equal.
He then fully developed his Sharingan, which is not technically a speed boost, but it allowed him to dodge and parry a Kyuubi Naruto. You know, the guy that pwned Haku in the ass?
He then received training from Orochimaru, which also resulted in greater speed.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...No proof?Well we know he got a speed boost from Kakashi, making him Lee's equal.
He then fully developed his Sharingan, which is not technically a speed boost, but it allowed him to dodge and parry a Kyuubi Naruto. You know, the guy that pwned Haku in the ass?
He then received training from Orochimaru, which also resulted in greater speed.
And let's not forget that the Naruto Sasuke fought was far stronger than the one who faced Haku.
Sasuke pretimeskip shunshin was faster than supersonic speed. Sasuke speed increased tremendously since then. Sasuke Shunshin=/< Hypersonic.
Sasuke is fast as hell and Haku got outclased by a slow as Sasuke. Then Sasuke got faster and increased his shunshin.
Right now Sasuke Great Dragon Flame would destroy the ice mirrors not tomention Amaterasu. Sasuke looks Haku in the eyes and traps him in his MS paralisis genjutsu and decapitates.
Also
The whole Jiraya>>>>>>Itachi think was debnunked by DB stats.
Itachi told alot of lies and fighting Jiraya in a life or death fight wouldnt have fit well with his plans of protecting Konoha.
Originally posted by Wil7
Go find where first used the Curse mark against Zaku, and you will see he got a speed boost.
Proof that he wasn't that fast earlier on. When he used Sharingan and fought Orochimaru earlier his speed was about the same.
BUT EVEN IF IT DOES GIVE HIM A SPEED BOOST, THAT'S IRRELEVANT.
Do you know why it's irrelevant? Because Sasuke received additional speed and power boosts since then.
Databook Stated Sasuke has Godlike speed and gave an example of it when he used Shunshin NO CURSE SEAL. And To prove other people cant reach this speed with it. Madara stated Sasukes shunshin was too fast and dei co-signed with it. Which means Sasuke shunshin is faster than everyone elses.
Sasuke could read Haku movements and avoid him after he has been riddles with needles and half dead with almost no chakra left. An 100% up to date Sasuke would trash him.
The next time i make a post please dont respond Dark Jaxx. I am in boxing forums, football forums ect ect ect and you are the most clueless person in any of them.
Sasuke was faster than Haku? Funny seing that Haku was moving so fast Sasuke and Naruto seem to be moving in slow motion. The only reason Sasuke was able to land a hit eventually was because Haku pretty much was out of charka ( Sasuke's Sharingan was a none factor) If Kakashi couldn't destroy or get out of the Demonic Ice Mirrors why would you asume Sasuke would? This is from a Haku who was holding back trying to avoid killing Naruto or Sasuke.
Are you telling me if Haku was trained by Orochomaru and given a curse seal he wouldnt be able to beat Sasuke now? Sasuke's Genjutsu wont work on Haku since he knows about the Sharingan and won't look into his eyes. Haku was alot smarter than Sasuke. How many other ninja seem to know so much about the Sharingan and how to stop it by just looking at it once? How many other ninja at that time could do one hand seals? Kakashi said he never seen somebody do that before Kakashi is a top of the line Jonin.
We don't know how powerful Haku was at that point in time but he was clearly powerful enough to kill Sasuke and Naruto while not trying his best. As i said before there was no way Haku could wni that fight. Naruto and Sasuke at 2 important of characters to be killed off so quickly. If Naruto would of have been killed the show would of ended.
Clearly Haku would beat Sasuke if he had a curse seal and was trained by Orochomaru. The funny thing is if Haku would of lived and gotten stronger like every other character he would beat Sasuke with out a curse seal.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Madara said Sasuke was too fast, sure, but this was while in the guise of Tobi, Madara has proven himself to be much faster than Sasuke or anyone else in the entire series.
Funny thing is. Madara is not exactly faster. His is actual warping space and time to place himself in another area. Not speed.
And Also Deidera co-signed a few pages after confirming the statement. and Dei is not slow @ all being upper tier in speed.
Also Sasuke got a speed boost in his Shunshin technique. Sasuke got much faster with it w/o cs s it doesnt really make a difference
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Is there any quantifiable speed feat that either sasuke or any other naruto character has? Cuz im not sure i believe this idea of supersonic speed. It still takes even the fastest of them such as gai days to travel from village to village.
Sasuke SHunshin does. Pretime skip He beat a Supersonic airwave while caring two other people easily. ANd Sasukes speed and agility ad use of Shunshin has increased tremendously over the timeskip. Now it seems to be basicly instant to the point it looks like teleportation. I know once time he cut up a CS2 8 times in a mere instant. And he speedblitzed Itachi Clone to the point only his sharingan could follow and not his body.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Sasuke SHunshin does. Pretime skip He beat a Supersonic airwave while caring two other people easily. ANd Sasukes speed and agility ad use of Shunshin has increased tremendously over the timeskip. Now it seems to be basicly instant to the point it looks like teleportation. I know once time he cut up a CS2 8 times in a mere instant. And he speedblitzed Itachi Clone to the point only his sharingan could follow and not his body.
When was this? A supersonic airwave? Was this ever stated or indicated as being supersonic? And really looking like its instantaneous does not make quantifable,. Even the whizzer can move and make it look instantaneous( depending on the distance) and he only moves a few hundred miles an hour.