Originally posted by ultimatethor
When was this? A supersonic airwave? Was this ever stated or indicated as being supersonic? And really looking like its instantaneous does not make quantifable,. Even the whizzer can move and make it look instantaneous( depending on the distance) and he only moves a few hundred miles an hour.
Databook says its a Supersonic airwave. Thus making it an airwave that reaches supersonic speed. And Sasuke pretimeskip shitted on it with Shunshin
Zankyokukuuha is a Ninjutsu technique utilized by the Sound ninja Zaku Abumi. This technique is a variation of the Zankuuhaa. Like the Zankuuha, Zaku creates a large gust of air pressure from the vents in his arms. This technique is the ultimate version of the lesser technique, it creates a massive gust of wind capable of totally wiping out his target and the surrounding area.
Zankuuha is a Ninjutsu technique utilized by the Sound ninja Zaku Abumi. Using the air vents installed in his arms, Zaku can control supersonic waves and air pressure. The Zankuuha creates a massive gust of wind which he can blast at an opponent. The gust is so strong it can even break rock.
It controls and emmits supersonic waves of airpressure. Once Again Sasuke shitted on it.
Originally posted by CsdabestMadara can use it in combat though, and it may as well be speed.
Funny thing is. Madara is not exactly faster. His is actual warping space and time to place himself in another area. Not speed.And Also Deidera co-signed a few pages after confirming the statement. and Dei is not slow @ all being upper tier in speed.
Also Sasuke got a speed boost in his Shunshin technique. Sasuke got much faster with it w/o cs s it doesnt really make a difference
...When was Deidara upper-tier in speed?
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Madara can use it in combat though, and it may as well be speed....When was Deidara upper-tier in speed?
Madara hasnt fought anyone yet. And Especially with his spacetime jutsu. He has just phased through attacks and he was running and hoping from tree to tree not warping places. So far he cant fight with it until seen.
Since the databook was released. 4.5 and it caps off at tier 5. Sasuke tier is 4.5 but he probbaly at the very top of it. With shunshin he outclassed Dei and tobi. Dei even admits that his shunshin is too fast. The Databook even goes to say that with his skills, speed and sharingan Sasuke has godlike speed.
SASUKES SHUNSHIN(not to say everyone elses)=Hypersonic speeds +agility+ sharingan being able to see and track high speed movement and predict others movements= Godlike speed.
Someone who is able to move at Hypersonic speed with agility to move around with it and is able to see everything easily is fast as hell.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Zankyokukuuha is a Ninjutsu technique utilized by the Sound ninja Zaku Abumi. This technique is a variation of the Zankuuhaa. Like the Zankuuha, Zaku creates a large gust of air pressure from the vents in his arms. This technique is the ultimate version of the lesser technique, it creates a massive gust of wind capable of totally wiping out his target and the surrounding area.Zankuuha is a Ninjutsu technique utilized by the Sound ninja Zaku Abumi. Using the air vents installed in his arms, Zaku can control supersonic waves and air pressure. The Zankuuha creates a massive gust of wind which he can blast at an opponent. The gust is so strong it can even break rock.
It controls and emmits supersonic waves of airpressure. Once Again Sasuke shitted on it.
From what ive seen, that attack makes use of sound waves/sonic waves and wind. Thats not neccessarily the same as firing the blast off at supersonic speeds. That has to do with the nature of the attack( a sonic attack) not its actual speed.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
From what ive seen, that attack makes use of sound waves/sonic waves and wind. Thats not neccessarily the same as firing the blast off at supersonic speeds. That has to do with the nature of the attack( a sonic attack) not its actual speed.
Hey thats what the Databook says and its made by the creator of the manga. Supersonic air pressure. Supersonic is refference to speeds that exceed sound. Im not making it up.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Hey thats what the Databook says and its made by the creator of the manga. Supersonic air pressure. Supersonic is refference to speeds that exceed sound. Im not making it up.
Originally posted by Csdabest Zankyokukuuha is a Ninjutsu technique utilized by the Sound ninja Zaku Abumi. This technique is a variation of the Zankuuhaa. Like the Zankuuha, Zaku creates a large gust of air pressure from the vents in his arms. This technique is the ultimate version of the lesser technique, it creates a massive gust of wind capable of totally wiping out his target and the surrounding area. Zankuuha is a Ninjutsu technique utilized by the Sound ninja Zaku Abumi. Using the air vents installed in his arms, Zaku can control supersonic waves AND air pressure . The Zankuuha creates a massive gust of wind which he can blast at an opponent. The gust is so strong it can even break rock. It controls and emmits supersonic waves of airpressure. Once Again Sasuke shitted on it.
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From what u said the supersonic waves are different from air pressure. By the definition u gave he makes use of both to create a big gust of wind. The supersonic waves described are just sound waves he is emitting and combining with wind. I doubt that they have anything to do with the actual speed of the gust itself.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
From what u said the supersonic waves are different from air pressure. By the definition u gave he makes use of both to create a big gust of wind. The supersonic waves described are just sound waves he is emitting and combining with wind. I doubt that they have anything to do with the actual speed of the gust itself.
What do you think Supersonic is. Supersonic is the speed of the gust. There nothing disproving other wise. Supersonic is a speed.
The term supersonic is used to define a speed that is over the speed of sound (Mach 1). At a typical temperature like 21 °C (70 °F), the threshold value required for an object to be traveling at a supersonic speed is approximately 344 m/s, (1,129 ft/s, 761 mph or 1,238 km/h). Speeds greater than 5 times the speed of sound are often referred to as hypersonic. Speeds where only some parts of the air around an object (such as the ends of rotor blades) reach supersonic speeds are labeled transonic (typically somewhere between Mach 0.8 and Mach 1.2).
It wouldn't have been considered a speed feat by the sound nin that were in awe by it if the attack wasn't fast. There is nothing disproving that the waves arent supersonic. You even said it your self. He emitted the waves. The Same supersonic waves Sasuke dodge while carring Naruto and Sakura w/ shunshin.
hell in the itachi fight w/o shunshin he moved faster than his shuriken can travel. Everytime Shunshin has been shown it has shown to be near instant movement in almost the sense that its basically teleporation. Evidence and descriptions and translations all around support the claim. I dont see why its that hard to beleive
Shunshin no Jutsu is a basic Ninjutsu technique. The ninja will appear and disappear in an instant, allowing them to retreat or attack suddenly. To facilitate the movement the ninja will often use nearby elements such as mist, sand or leaves to mask their appearance or disappearance.
The fact that Sasuke speed with it has been praised by even Akatsuki members. Says that Sasuke is extremely fast with it. It even caught Itachi off guard and he has sharingan to track high speed and predictmovements. So soo much evidence prove that is past Supersonic closing in on Hypersonic. Hell not to try to use anime but in the anime when Sasuke uses it a small sonic boom can be heard when he uses it.
Originally posted by Csdabest
What do you think Supersonic is. Supersonic is the speed of the gust. There nothing disproving other wise. Supersonic is a speed.The term supersonic is used to define a speed that is over the speed of sound (Mach 1). At a typical temperature like 21 °C (70 °F), the threshold value required for an object to be traveling at a supersonic speed is approximately 344 m/s, (1,129 ft/s, 761 mph or 1,238 km/h). Speeds greater than 5 times the speed of sound are often referred to as hypersonic. Speeds where only some parts of the air around an object (such as the ends of rotor blades) reach supersonic speeds are labeled transonic (typically somewhere between Mach 0.8 and Mach 1.2).
It wouldn't have been considered a speed feat by the sound nin that were in awe by it if the attack wasn't fast. There is nothing disproving that the waves arent supersonic. You even said it your self. He emitted the waves. The Same supersonic waves Sasuke dodge while carring Naruto and Sakura w/ shunshin.
hell in the itachi fight w/o shunshin he moved faster than his shuriken can travel. Everytime Shunshin has been shown it has shown to be near instant movement in almost the sense that its basically teleporation. Evidence and descriptions and translations all around support the claim. I dont see why its that hard to beleive
Shunshin no Jutsu is a basic Ninjutsu technique. The ninja will appear and disappear in an instant, allowing them to retreat or attack suddenly. To facilitate the movement the ninja will often use nearby elements such as mist, sand or leaves to mask their appearance or disappearance.
The fact that Sasuke speed with it has been praised by even Akatsuki members. Says that Sasuke is extremely fast with it. It even caught Itachi off guard and he has sharingan to track high speed and predictmovements. So soo much evidence prove that is past Supersonic closing in on Hypersonic. Hell not to try to use anime but in the anime when Sasuke uses it a small sonic boom can be heard when he uses it.
I know the meaninng of supersonic, I just dont trust the application of the word in this context . From ur description it was described as a supersonic wave. Ive seen it in other sources described as a sonic wave. Also because in ur description u described the sonic waves as being different from the airpressure makes me doubt that the term is being applied properly. If they had described the attack as a supersonic gust of wind or something i wud have doubted it less. But seeing supersonic wave( and in some other places sonic wave) just leads me to believe that he is mixing in sound waves with airpressure not that the overall speed of the generated wind is supersonic.
Thats how it was made out to be. If you go to mangahelpers and talk to one of the transtlators or multiple translators. They translate it as the wave and gust being supersonic in nature and everything dont translate well into english. But So far in anime, manga, and video games all threesources along with databook the attack has been seen to be supersonic in nature and Shunshin has seen especially sasukes has been seen to shit on supersonic speed with it being instant. as even Shunshin has been described.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Thats how it was made out to be. If you go to mangahelpers and talk to one of the transtlators or multiple translators. They translate it as the wave and gust being supersonic in nature and everything dont translate well into english. But So far in anime, manga, and video games all threesources along with databook the attack has been seen to be supersonic in nature and Shunshin has seen especially sasukes has been seen to shit on supersonic speed with it being instant. as even Shunshin has been described.
Something looking like its done in an instant does not make it supersonic. As i said, the attack was said to make use of sonic or supersonic waves and airpressure. This differentiation suggests that the term was not describing the speed of the overall gust of wind generated.
I guess i have to bring out translator statements who translated the information in the first place. Cuz the translators stated that its supersonic in nature. Supersonic is speed. nothing else. The attack speed is supersonic. There is nothing suggesting against it but your opinion. Yet i have opinion from definition of the attack, shunshin, and i can provide translator testimony explaining the attack.