The Primal Monitor Vs The Living Tribunal

yeah, PM stomping someone like LT is just unheard of. you'd have to be completely insane if such a thought crossed your mind.

yeah. niether stomps imo.

LT could just ignore him PM ftw if that's what you want so it's not so violent, that's 1/10 ways LT wins

i doubt pm would even care. lt would be but a germ to him.

something that is more significant cannot be just a germ. If anything, PM is a germ to LT. necessity > PM

also, as the embodiment of equity LT is -at least- as big as however you think PM to be.

so LT beats PM with 2/3ds his embodiment, even separated, like i've said numerous times

pm is the ocean, lt is a drop of water.

LT is the molecules that make up the water in the ocean, and the area in which the ocean is located, not to mention the environment in which the water draws it resources from, and all that other stuff associated with celestial bodies

yeah, lt is pretty dinky.

LT is also all of necessity. It's pretty convenient in vs threads like this one

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Do you think being physically bigger than a multiverse means anything to the LT?

Originally posted by Jynocidus
LT is also all of necessity. It's pretty convenient in vs threads like this one

Originally posted by Galan007
Necessity doesn't mean shit when someone is more powerful than you... Thanos /w/ THOTI proved that much.

I accept Thanos with HOTI being higher than LT only so much as I still have my suspicions, but in either case fact remains HOTI comes from TOAA. LT serves TOAA, so it's only logical someone with a plot device stemming from TOAA itself could treat creation however they wanted.

HOTI comes from an omnipotent source, not the Presence because he was created from external forces and thus is not omnipotent. So HOTI > PM also.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
I accept Thanos with HOTI being higher than LT only so much as I still have my suspicions, but in either case fact remains HOTI comes from TOAA. LT serves TOAA, so it's only logical someone with a plot device stemming from TOAA itself could treat creation however they wanted.

HOTI comes from an omnipotent source, not the Presence because he was created from external forces and thus is not omnipotent. So HOTI > PM also.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
So HOTI > PM also.

I understand if you have a hard time grasping what the PM is. Most do.

most people have an even harder time grasping what necessity is.

since you put it like that

if TOAA draws LT on PM, how is PM going to erase LT? Papers don't have their own eraser, and if it needs time to eventually wither away...time is an abstract loyal to LT (or at least dormant in gem form)

the paper is nothing more than a tool to TOAA. even the paper is necessary for stories to be told and distributed.

The PM had no problem containing the entire DC multiverse to prevent it from spreading. It had no problem destroying the most powerful threat DC has ever known (Mandrakk.)

But most likely the PM wouldn't even notice LT's existence. After all, the entire infinite DC multiverse was the size of a germ in comparison to the PM, and it barely noticed that. LT would register as... Infinitely less.

that piece of paper is not TOAA in any way. It's not omnipotent. LT serves an omnipotent TOAA.

Necessity > a piece of paper.

Necessity is the reason why "external forces" draw on the paper.

Comics don't always have to be paper either, so PM could be replaced. Comics even went digital.

Trying to place a piece of paper as God can be interesting if you want it to be, but there's way more in necessity than a piece of paper.

PM wins

Originally posted by Jynocidus
that piece of paper is not TOAA in any way. It's not omnipotent. LT serves an omnipotent TOAA.

Necessity > a piece of paper.

Necessity is the reason why "external forces" draw on the paper.

Comics don't always have to be paper either, so PM could be replaced. Comics even went digital.

Trying to place a piece of paper as God can be interesting if you want it to be, but there's way more in necessity than a piece of paper.