Kenshiro vs all of Konoha

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Didn't say you were losing because you left. I said you were losing because you resorted to name calling and false claims.

Fact: Kenshiro can't kill Itachi if all he is fighting is shadow clones.

The thing is that he isn't going to know about his MS. If he does get full knowledge on ITachi then Itachi should get full knowledge of him which means he would know that Kenshiro could end the fight in one punch thus making him use shadow clones instead. Itachi is too different for him to fight. How do you not understand that Kenshiro would not be fighting the real Itachi?

Shadow clones poof on 1 hit 500 punches in 1 second any shadow clone itachi uses will be defeated., And I said I was going to bed since you can't read you obviously missed that. Oh and nice on ignoring the fact mangekyou sharingan is completely useless against Muso Tensei. Plus mangekyou drains Itachi's energy like hell so w/e comes after he'll get his ass handed to him. Please don't go off topic like you always like 2.

Originally posted by BetaProxy
Shadow clones poof on 1 hit 500 punches in 1 second any shadow clone itachi uses will be defeated., And I said I was going to bed since you can't read you obviously missed that. Oh and nice on ignoring the fact mangekyou sharingan is completely useless against Muso Tensei. Plus mangekyou drains Itachi's energy like hell so w/e comes after he'll get his ass handed to him. Please don't go off topic like you always like 2.

First of all it doesn't take much for him to make another clone. And from I understand his fight with Sasuke had them both using shadow clones that got attacked many times. One of them even gouged the other's eye out. I also said nothing about you going to bed. I only pointed out that you resorted to name calling and making bad jokes about me liking Naruto with I don't even like.

I ignored the statement about the MS being useless against the MT because it is all speculation. Your only claim to why it wouldn't work is because Kenshiro has fought a coma before which isn't enough proof actually its no proof at all that it wouldn't work. His shadow clones have used the MS if i'm not mistaken so any fatigue he feels won't be shown because he won't be there. The clone may die but Itachi won't be there. I'm not going off topic nor have I done so during this entire debate.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
First of all it doesn't take much for him to make another clone. And from I understand his fight with Sasuke had them both using shadow clones that got attacked many times. One of them even gouged the other's eye out. I also said nothing about you going to bed. I only pointed out that you resorted to name calling and making bad jokes about me liking Naruto with I don't even like.

I ignored the statement about the MS being useless against the MT because it is all speculation. Your only claim to why it wouldn't work is because Kenshiro has fought a coma before which isn't enough proof actually its no proof at all that it wouldn't work. His shadow clones have used the MS if i'm not mistaken so any fatigue he feels won't be shown because he won't be there. The clone may die but Itachi won't be there. I'm not going off topic nor have I done so during this entire debate.

Is it speculation because the outcome doesn't please you? Shadow clones still poof on 1 hit and he's not going to massing Mangekyou sharingans one after the other shadow clones or not. Shadow clones disperse chakara so he has to put enough of his chakara inside each clone in order to use the technique eitherway its still draining. Most people don't mass summon shadow clones only naruto did that cause he had alot of chakara to spare.

Originally posted by BetaProxy
Is it speculation because the outcome doesn't please you? Shadow clones still poof on 1 hit and he's not going to massing Mangekyou sharingans one after the other shadow clones or not. Shadow clones disperse chakara so he has to put enough of his chakara inside each clone in order to use the technique eitherway its still draining. Most people don't mass summon shadow clones only naruto did that cause he had alot of chakara to spare.

Speculation because Kenshiro fighting a coma does not mean he can fight off the MS so easily. I have already told you that the clones Itachi was using against his brother was taking hits. Even if he does go poof that doesn't mean that Itachi is going to get hurt nor is he going to appear out of no where hurt or tired on the ground. The whole point of using a clone is so you don't have to risk your life and get hit. I can show you a fight where Itachi used pretty much nothing but clones to fight Naruto and Kakashi. Anyway I'll ask someone more knowledgable on Itachi for the exact limits of his clones and MS.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Speculation because Kenshiro fighting a coma does not mean he can fight off the MS so easily. I have already told you that the clones Itachi was using against his brother was taking hits. Even if he does go poof that doesn't mean that Itachi is going to get hurt nor is he going to appear out of no where hurt or tired on the ground. The whole point of using a clone is so you don't have to risk your life and get hit. I can show you a fight where Itachi used pretty much nothing but clones to fight Naruto and Kakashi. Anyway I'll ask someone more knowledgable on Itachi for the exact limits of his clones and MS.

1 hit= 1 good hit

Ye you should ask, all MS does is if you survive it put you unconscious. If kenshiro can fight unconscious why wouldn't he be able to kick Itachi's ass. And any other Ms used after if he even could use it again would have no effect because kenshiro is technically unconscious and his mind can no longer be affected. Shadow clones wouldn't be enough for Itachi to win, he'd have to get in the fight and probably die.

Um...not all shadow clones go away in one hit. Both Naruto, and Sarutobi have had there shadow clones hit multiple times. Besides that Itachi doesn't use the same technique Naruto and Sarutobi do. And his shadow clone was impaled by Sasuke, still talked, then dispersed into a flock of birds. They won't be killed in one hit, and Hokutoshinken won't work on them cause..they aren't real. And the clones can use MS just as easily, and as soon as Ken looks into the eyes or even at Itachi's finger he'd be caught in a genjutsu. MS also has Susanoo to protect Itachi while also knowing attacks not based on Sharingan to use while he's attacking with genjutsu. But Itachi wouldn't be in this fight so it doesn't matter.

Originally posted by Quincy
Konoha village is a big place.

Maybe he's transforming ALLLLL THE way on the other end of the village.

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Good job, he's just wrecked his own village. Kenshiro won't even need to walk over there after killing the others. Just wait for him to burn himself out.

Originally posted by BetaProxy
He won't be dodging itachi just dodge his look. He'll move so fast that before itachi gets a good gaze on him he's already dead. That's what he'd naturally do he'd try to end the battle quickly and since he's faster itachi is dead.

All those other points you made ughh I don't want to get into, you must be ****ing trolling/kidding me about kaioken goku beating kenshiro?

Anyway I'm tired of arguing ambiguity's with an idiot who's obviously a naruto fanboy and owns a naruto headbang opps I mean headband.

Cool it, BetaProxy, or I'll slap a warning on you. There's no need for bashing.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
First of all Kenshiro is not the same speed as SSJ Goku no way no how. Burter was incredibly fast and fast as if not faster than 7 and Goku already surpassed his speed when he arrived at Namek.

2nd of all Kenshiro won't be able to hit Kaioken Goku seeing as his body is exceeding its limits times whatever he pushes it to.

3rd of all Goku is an alien and we have no idea how HNK works on alien physiology.

4th. I'm still talking about Itachi who can beat Kenshiro just with a look. You act as if Kenshiro already has the scoop on him and will be moving around just to dodge his sight. Kenshiro isn't FTL for one, two as said before a shadow clone will easily keep him distracted.

very well said, people think ken could beat goku because of haktoshinken but like you said he coudltn hit goku and even if he did it probably wouldnt effect him because of his body density/ alien phsyology. anyway this is kenshiro vs konoha, hmm i think the entire village could take him, the 4th hokage cud probably beatnhim alone, or naruto 4 tails XP

Originally posted by BradBalboa
very well said, people think ken could beat goku because of haktoshinken but like you said he coudltn hit goku and even if he did it probably wouldnt effect him because of his body density/ alien phsyology. anyway this is kenshiro vs konoha, hmm i think the entire village could take him, the 4th hokage cud probably beatnhim alone, or naruto 4 tails XP

Whoa! It's Hokuto Shinken and it is the greatest physical fighting style ever. I only said that he couldn't hit Kaioken Goku because eventually Goku will have to go like Kaioken x20. HNK is great and it as well exceeds the human body expectations a lot by I don't think that it exceeds it by 20 times. HNK has nothing to do with affecting someone who has a dense body, it matters not the density because HNK makes your body harder than steel and Kenshiro has affected his brothers who are also practioners of HNK and his body has resisted attacks from Souther that would've sliced a normal man in pieces.

One thing I was wondering though was if Goku had pressure points?

Also who all is in Konoha? I need to know that before I make a decision because if Itachi isn't in there then Konoha is pretty ****ed.

I'd guess it would be..normal Konoha. Tsunade as Hokge and Sasuke gone. Even without Itachi they have a chance. There are more genjutsu users than Itachi. They may not be as deadly but you can't kill what you don't know. Not to mention all the clones that can be used. He wouldn't ever know who was real or not and he'd hit through them. And Shadow Binding jutsu, and the Yamanaka families jutsu. Long range attacks, genjutsu, clones of all kinds from shadow to illusions, short range attacks, binding attacks, attacks to destroy his mind or take over his mind.

a normla human, goku always been far beyond that durability shown even as a small child, bulet prood, axe shattered on his head, took out an entire army far more advanced than any in the real world or fist on the north star earth fr that matter, pre-kami traning Goku could beat ken, ken vs tao pai pai is a better match !! Goku in DBZ is far to much !! Goku wil have but kens fingers would break if he hit gouk hard enough...

Originally posted by BradBalboa
a normla human, goku always been far beyond that durability shown even as a small child, bulet prood, axe shattered on his head, took out an entire army far more advanced than any in the real world or fist on the north star earth fr that matter, pre-kami traning Goku could beat ken, ken vs tao pai pai is a better match !! Goku in DBZ is far to much !! Goku wil have but kens fingers would break if he hit gouk hard enough...

HAve you even seen HNK? Seriously have you watched the anime at all? Kenshiro has way better durability feats than that. Kenshiro would also solo the RR army and he would one shot tao pai and pre kami Goku. Almost any HNK character would whoop them.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
HAve you even seen HNK? Seriously have you watched the anime at all? Kenshiro has way better durability feats than that. Kenshiro would also solo the RR army and he would one shot tao pai and pre kami Goku. Almost any HNK character would whoop them.

Originally posted by Kento
Jagi would loose to ChiChi though. And I mean start of DB ChiChi not Z. 😖hifty:

That's not saying much though. Jagi would lose to anyone. Hell he'll lose to namek saga Dende...even Puar.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That's not saying much though. Jagi would lose to anyone. Hell he'll lose to namek saga Dende...even Puar.

Originally posted by Kento
Well Jagi MIGHT put up a fight against that turtle of Roshi's.

But in the end he'll lose...

Well that turtle is stupid so he might get lucky and the turtle beats himself on accident.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
HAve you even seen HNK? Seriously have you watched the anime at all? Kenshiro has way better durability feats than that. Kenshiro would also solo the RR army and he would one shot tao pai and pre kami Goku. Almost any HNK character would whoop them.

yes iv seen it the new version is awesoem too, but kenshiro couldnt take the level of damage Goku can dish out, and even if they ha he same power goku can take alot more pain ken was ****ed up after he got the 7 scars gou in a fight had both legs broken an energy blast put threw his shoulder and his other arm rendered useless, lost alot of blood got beat up some more and sill won the fight !!

Notice how many times this topic goes offtopic to Goku vs. Kenshiro. Nuff said Konoha= ass raped.