Originally posted by The Great Galen
....supes has greater h2h speed so how will thor summon when he is getting blitz.
Thor's speed is right there with Superman's and a Blitz will do no good when Kal-El runs head long into a Hammer swing. Speed is both beneficial, and detrimental. And with Thor's reaction, and movement speed he can very easily clock Superman
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Thor's speed is right there with Superman's and a Blitz will do no good when Kal-El runs head long into a Hammer swing. Speed is both beneficial, and detrimental. And with Thor's reaction, and movement speed he can very easily clock Superman
He doesn't have to fly at Thor to blitz him just fight him at close quarters his reflexes are superior.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
People are focused on Thor here. Do you realize that with the OP's stipulations Juggernaut can win this alone?
I think the discussions have moved away from the OP's premise. And Juggs reflexes are still inferior to everyone's on here and there's no telling if he has the strength to dent Konvikt's durability not to mention that he still slower than Supes in close quarters and arguably physical weaker overall. His durability will make things simpler for Thor tactically but it's Thor who wins or loses this fight for team 1.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Wonder Woman has taken Warp Core explosions, Fought Nearly on top of the sun, and taken Shots from Skyfather's. Please don't act like she's some kind of effing low point. You fail. every post you make is utterlly OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG UGG UGG. That was me cussing you out if you didn't realize it.
Thor has actually fought in the sun with no damage so stop bringing up this heat vision crap that aint going to do jack against thor.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor has actually fought in the sun with no damage so stop bringing up this heat vision crap that aint going to do jack against thor.
ermm Supes HV is hotter than a sun, its energy is in excess of a type 2 Supernova (something the scientist can measure) and has no measured upper limit as of yet.
Even that may still be irrelevant because Supes psionically controls the intensity of his HV and without trying to kill Thor (in character) he's already hurt and slowed down Thor with it.
Originally posted by Allankles
ermm Supes HV is hotter than a sun, its well in excess of a type Supernova and has no measured upper limit as of yet. All that is irrelevant because Supes psionically controls the intensity of his HV and without trying to kill Thor (in character) he's already hurt and slowed down Thor with it.
Mjolnir absorbs it. End of the HV argument.
Originally posted by Allankles
I think the discussions have moved away from the OP's premise. And Juggs reflexes are still inferior to everyone's on here and there's no telling if he has the strength to dent Konvikt's durability not to mention that he still slower than Supes in close quarters and arguably physical weaker overall. His durability will make things simpler for Thor tactically but it's Thor who wins or loses this fight for team 1.
Juggernaut would crush konvikt and konvikt didnt show anything that put his speed above juggernaut. Superman doesnt stand a chance against juggernaut either but I just wanted to see how creative people would be at getting juggernaut out of the battle without bfring but the things that has been brought up is just ridiculous.
Originally posted by Allankles
ermm Supes HV is hotter than a sun, its energy is in excess of a type 2 Supernova (something the scientist can measure) and has no measured upper limit as of yet.Even that may still be irrelevant because Supes psionically controls the intensity of his HV and without trying to kill Thor (in character) he's already hurt and slowed down Thor with it.
But you are not getting the point, thor was fighting in the sun with NO PROBLEM. It had no kind of affect on him, that what youre not getting. Superman heatvision aint doing crap to thor just like gladiator heat vision that was stated as being hotter then stars didnt do anything to thor.
Originally posted by carver9
But you are not getting the point, thor was fighting in the sun with NO PROBLEM. It had no kind of affect on him, that what youre not getting. Superman heatvision aint doing crap to thor just like gladiator heat vision that was stated as being hotter then stars didnt do anything to thor.
And your argument sucks cause Supes HV has already damaged Thor and he wasn't aiming to kill him or anything.
He can also do more than just blast it in typical fashion. He can use his TV and Xray vision together with his HV to shoot microscopic beams of HV to screw with people's internal organs, hell he shot through Manchester blacks retina to lobotomize him without damaging the eye even a little.
Originally posted by batdude123Thor had him beat. He had him beat easily. Hulk stepped in and then beat Rulk as well.
Thor blindsided him with a hammer throw and then clocked him with Mjolnir a few times.Hulk was the one who beat him.
"When Thor was ready for him" I suppose means cheap-shotting Rulk when he wasn't expecting it... right?
And please read the comic again... THOR DID NOT END ANYTHING.
So he comes in for a surprise attack because he already got his ass whooped in a face to face encounter. Got it.
Rulk was just standing there dazed and confused because Thor blindsided him and started attacking without warning.
Saying what someone "might have done" is completely meaningless.
And Red Hulk is not in this encounter. Someone who is much, much, much, much, much x10000 faster than him is in this fight.
Dispelled magic from Arion.
Fought off the Queen of Fable's magical reality warping.
Used T-Vo to dissolve Adversary's magical clones.
Took a magical blast from Etrigan that sent him to the moon and he was completely unharmed.
Fought against and countered Avalon's magical attacks.
Defeated Blaze (magical skyfather) in her own dimension.
Deflected and weakened a mystical bolt so powerful, it was designated to destroy the Greek Islands.
Not to mention the fact that he has training from Zatanna to make him even more resistant to magic.
I haven't even tapped the surface either. There's a shit load more evidence in the Superman respect thread.
Probably because Superman's "weakness" to magic is blown waaaayyy out of proportion.
So even when Thor loses legitimately, there's still an excuse.
Fact remains that Superman caught the hammer mid-swing with one hand, and then one-hit KO'd him with the other. Pretty simple.
The bottom line is that Thor is MORE POWERFUL NOW THAN IN CLASSIC FORM. End of discussion.
This IS NOT Current Thor, but rather, Classic Thor. Anymore attempts to use it as evidence in this thread shall be reported as trolling.
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Thor knew who he was and was out for blood. A few hammer shots and he was defeated and quite easily. Rulk even admitted that Hulk prolly saved his life. 😂
Thor didnt finish him because Hulk stepped in. I read the comic. You obviously didnt.
How many fights in comics start out with a cheapshot? I seem to recall Superman cheapshotting darkseid in countdown 2. Dont be a hypocrite mate.
Red Hulk is more of a physical brute than Supes isnt in this fight. Supes is faster but Thor is much,much,much more powerful than Superman.
Magic doesnt always defeat him,but he is still weak against it. Whats so hard to grasp about this?
You havent proven that he doesnt have a magical weakness. You are trying to downplay it. Thor doesnt win based on that factor. It helps,but he wins based on the fact he is much more powerful.
I call it how I see it. Thor redeems himself imo.
I thought it was current Thor. Thats fine. Classic Thor has more impressive battle feats. Galactus,Celestial,etc.
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Originally posted by Enyalus
Supes HV is light speed, max. Nothing Thor can't deflect.
Thor would need to expect it hitting him to react accordingly, no one is saying he can't deflect it, but the fact that it is projected from Superman's eyes means that it would be very difficult (if not impossible) for Thor to telegraph.