Thor/Juggernaut vs Superman/Konvikt

Started by The Great Galen20 pages

Although I guess thats still"reaching"because DC scientist are idiots and don't know what they are talking about lol.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
As i said before supes will be getting attacked by thousands of lighning bolts from all sides. He wont have the chance to focus with his HV at all. Not to mention that thor has been able to absorb the blasts of gladiator who has HV just like supermans.

You do realize Supes has greater combat speed and can easily move fastert then Thor"summoning bolts"right...matter of fact I wonder how Thor will do agaisnt a omni-directional HV blasl while Supes is blitzing.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You do realize Supes has greater combat speed and can easily move fastert then Thor"summoning bolts"right...matter of fact I wonder how Thor will do agaisnt a omni-directional HV blasl while Supes is blitzing.

Thor will just absorb supes HV all day. Supes combat speed is at best supersonic and has not shown to be as fast as lightning so i dont know what u r talking about

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You do realize Supes has greater combat speed and can easily move fastert then Thor"summoning bolts"right...matter of fact I wonder how Thor will do agaisnt a omni-directional HV blasl while Supes is blitzing.

and you do know that thor would be able to hit superman since thor has on panel proof of hitting beings with speed and superman has on panel proof of being hit by beings of thors caliber.

Thor is outright more powerful then superman and superman only defense against thor is his speed which still wont help him in this match against a planet destroyer/god.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Thor will just absorb supes HV all day. Supes combat speed is at best supersonic and has not shown to be as fast as lightning so i dont know what u r talking about

....supes has greater h2h speed so how will thor summon when he is getting blitz.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You do realize Supes has greater combat speed and can easily move fastert then Thor"summoning bolts"right...matter of fact I wonder how Thor will do agaisnt a omni-directional HV blasl while Supes is blitzing.

Supes cannot use any kind of 'omnidirectional' blast. Learn the terminology.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
....supes has greater h2h speed so how will thor summon when he is getting blitz.

Show me thor being overwhelmed by speed and you cant say that he hasnt fought anyone with speed. You have gladiator, hyperion, etc... to choose from.

Originally posted by Bentley
He is too slow and Supes can mind rape him. The only thing that can win this battle is Thor beating Convict and Superman at superspeed.

Yeah his helmet and skull cap protect him from mental attacks.

Originally posted by fangirl101
OMG. Thank you. I've stated this soooo many times. The God blast only works on Giants and really slow beings like Juggernaut.

But it didn't work on Juggernaut. It did not hurt him at all, only slowed him down.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So supes won the fight because he parried Thor's best attack and delievered a counter-hit....exactly what are you trying to say here?
He won due to the fact that Thor was shocked and left himself wide open. Rulk beat him down easily the first time they met and got pwned the second. Thor would annihilate Supes in their rematch me thinks.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
....supes has greater h2h speed so how will thor summon when he is getting blitz.

Supes can't blitz in this fight.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You do realize Supes has greater combat speed and can easily move fastert then Thor"summoning bolts"right...matter of fact I wonder how Thor will do agaisnt a omni-directional HV blasl while Supes is blitzing.

Wait are you trying to say that he can shoot his HV from all directions at once or what?

Originally posted by Allankles
When has Supes shown a specific weakness to magic in recent years? Against Avalon he had no problem fighting against and countering his magical attempts, and his understanding of magic has grown with tutelage from Zatanna.

So as someone already mentioned Superman's purported weakness to magic is a misnomer, nowhere does it suggest he has a specific weakness to magic, that was something just carried over by word of mouth from his pre crisis days.

PC Supes had a weakness to it to provide some balance because he was too powerful Post C Supes doesn't have the same problem.

What kind of ridiculous excuse is that? I catch your blow before it lands and I KO you, what the hell would your shock matter? It's not Superman's problem that Thor got shocked and it's not Superman's problem that his punch KO'd Thor, considering the kind of speed and strength Supes possesses it's quite clear that he can generate awesome power punches capable of KO'ing his peers.

Think of heavy weight boxers, think of the best punchers like Tyson, Louis,, Lennox et al. they could all generate great speed with their punches furthermore punches that you don't see coming hurt the most.

Are you saying that he is no weakness whatsoever against magic? Is that what you are saying? Prove he doesnt have a weakness to it anymore. Arent you the same poster who claimed darkseid was more powerful than Yuga Khan?

😂

Thor was shocked and lost due to that factor. Wouldnt happen in a rematch. He hit Thor when he was shocked letting his guard down. Its all in the scan.

Thor would take him the next time they meet. This is also current Thor.

Originally posted by Allankles
All that need be said is that his HV has no measured upper limit as of yet. And the scientist can measure a type 2 supernova but can't get a measure of Supes HV.
Not hot enough to put WW down when he was out for the kill. Thats for sure.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not hot enough to put WW down when he was out for the kill. Thats for sure.

Wonder Woman has taken Warp Core explosions, Fought Nearly on top of the sun, and taken Shots from Skyfather's. Please don't act like she's some kind of effing low point. You fail. every post you make is utterlly OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG UGG UGG. That was me cussing you out if you didn't realize it.

Is your hair on fire yet?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Wonder Woman has taken Warp Core explosions, Fought Nearly on top of the sun, and taken Shots from Skyfather's. Please don't act like she's some kind of effing low point. You fail. every post you make is utterlly OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG UGG UGG. That was me cussing you out if you didn't realize it.
You can talk about how hot it is till the cows come home,but it isnt hot enough to take out Thor or Juggs.

Thor took a heatvision shot,but guess what Supes has taken Thor's best. He would fall before the much more powerful Thor.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Is your hair on fire yet?

I just doused it in water. I'm cool now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor beat him easily.

Thor blindsided him with a hammer throw and then clocked him with Mjolnir a few times.

Hulk was the one who beat him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk beat a clueless Thor with his own hammer. When thor was ready for him it ended quickly. Thats the point.

"When Thor was ready for him" I suppose means cheap-shotting Rulk when he wasn't expecting it... right?

And please read the comic again... THOR DID NOT END ANYTHING.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He knew who his opponent was and felt he dishonored mjolnir when he laid his hands upon it. Thor swore it wouldnt happen again. It didnt.

So he comes in for a surprise attack because he already got his ass whooped in a face to face encounter. Got it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk said he might have just spared his life. Thor wasnt playing around and Rulk was just standing there dazed and confused. Please read the comics you debate with me.

Rulk was just standing there dazed and confused because Thor blindsided him and started attacking without warning.

Saying what someone "might have done" is completely meaningless.

And Red Hulk is not in this encounter. Someone who is much, much, much, much, much x10000 faster than him is in this fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is weak against magic. If he isnt feel free to post proof.

Dispelled magic from Arion.

Fought off the Queen of Fable's magical reality warping.

Used T-Vo to dissolve Adversary's magical clones.

Took a magical blast from Etrigan that sent him to the moon and he was completely unharmed.

Fought against and countered Avalon's magical attacks.

Defeated Blaze (magical skyfather) in her own dimension.

Deflected and weakened a mystical bolt so powerful, it was designated to destroy the Greek Islands.

Not to mention the fact that he has training from Zatanna to make him even more resistant to magic.

I haven't even tapped the surface either. There's a shit load more evidence in the Superman respect thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because he knows about it that doesnt mean he factored that in when he wrote the fight.

Probably because Superman's "weakness" to magic is blown waaaayyy out of proportion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes won due to Thor's initial shock. Thats my opinion and one I can support by looking at the end of the battle.

So even when Thor loses legitimately, there's still an excuse.

Fact remains that Superman caught the hammer mid-swing with one hand, and then one-hit KO'd him with the other. Pretty simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor isnt as powerful as Odin. I know he has the odinpower,but I believe they arent touching upon that. Imagine writing a comic about Odin. Pretty tough to do when the guy has affected the multiverse.

The bottom line is that Thor is MORE POWERFUL NOW THAN IN CLASSIC FORM. End of discussion.

This IS NOT Current Thor, but rather, Classic Thor. Anymore attempts to use it as evidence in this thread shall be reported as trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has been upgraded since then. He didnt lose the first fight. 🙂

facepalm

Originally posted by The Great Galen
....supes has greater h2h speed so how will thor summon when he is getting blitz.

Thor is the god of thunder, him "summoning" lightning is just a thought away.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is also current Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
No bfring in this match and no speed blitz. This is a normal fight just like it would happen in a comic. No hitting someone a million times before he opened his eyes so thats basically saying that cis is on.

This is classic thor.

Now please stop with your bullshit. Thanks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not hot enough to put WW down when he was out for the kill. Thats for sure.

And your point is? He never used it as efficiently as he's used it on previous occasions. I reference AC # 775 and he's used it in other ways like blasting entire armies or heating up the world etc