Vader takes the saber duel, the Force battle goes to Windu due to experience, all-out goes to Vader.
Originally posted by Faunus
Talking about the Force-push contest.
Which is where intro to psych comes into play. If the mind is out of sync, the body will be too. In a Jedi's case, since the Force is manipulated by the mind - we would see a drop in power and performance there as well.
During the temple raid, he brings down a massive statue that could almost touch the ceiling with TK, then casually tosses a huge piece of rubble it leaves with force enough to break down a sealed entranceway. It's evident that his mental state was why he couldn't overpower Kenobi there & lost. Obi-Wan cleared his mind of attachments when fighting as a Jedi is supposed to; Anakin let his attachments consume him. Nick Gillard says as much:
"Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him, but when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes."
Originally posted by Advent
Vader takes the saber duel, the Force battle goes to Windu due to experience, all-out goes to Vader.Which is where intro to psych comes into play. If the mind is out of sync, the body will be too. In a Jedi's case, since the Force is manipulated by the mind - we would see a drop in power and performance there as well.
During the temple raid, he brings down a massive statue that could almost touch the ceiling with TK, then casually tosses a huge piece of rubble it leaves with force enough to break down a sealed entranceway. It's evident that his mental state was why he couldn't overpower Kenobi there & lost. Obi-Wan cleared his mind of attachments when fighting as a Jedi is supposed to; Anakin let his attachments consume him. Nick Gillard says as much:
"Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him, but when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes."
Indeed. Emotion and area disadvantage are factors in Anakin's fight with Obi.
Originally posted by Faunus
Too strong because of his natural Force-reserves, not too fast.
"each step a blow, each blow a step. Dooku backed away as fast as he dared; Skywalker stayed right on top of him.
"That blue blade was eveywhere, flashing and whirling faster and faster, until Dooku saw the room through an electric haze."
and theres too many quotes in the fight about how powerful Skywalkers blows were for me to start quoting right now.
Originally posted by Faunus
And Dooku would've likely manhandled him with the Force had he been inclined to at first.
yes that would always be a possibility. Dooku was Far Far Superior with the Force.
Originally posted by Faunus
Who's still not as skilled as Mace Windu. And prove that he was a Djem So "master."
The fact that he was as fine a user of Djem So as Dooku had ever seen.
Considering Dooku used to be a Lightsaber instructor at the temple id say hes seen them all.
Also the final fight with Obi1 shoed them to be "2 halves of the same warrior.." it seems their Mastery was on the same level.
so yeah id say all the evidence suggests that Anakin was not only a master but had Perfectly Mastered his form of choice.
could you post that quote? along with page num?
and if you are posting that beating Dooku is proof anakin surpassed Windu (even if the DR quote exists) Then i would offer for proof that Windu surpassed Sidious (as proven by Windu BEATING sidious)
You argument just doesn't work DP, if Anakin>Mace and Mace> sidious, then anakin>sidous and dooku> sidious.
that kind of reasoning fails.
its page 315, during Dooku's fight with Yoda. The narrator quotes that "On neutral ground, out of all the other jedi perhaps only Mace Windu would be his equal.."
Also when they fought in Obsessions Mace and Dooku seemed a good match with neither seeming to gain an advantage.
but yes your right A>B>C argument doesnt always work. Dooku beat Obi-wan who beat Anakin who beat Dooku..
and if we go by the Mace beat Sidious thing, then Mace is Greater than Yoda because Yoda didnt defeat Sidious.. so that argument is clearly flawed.
However the A>B>B argument is useful in determining what a Jedi/Sith is capable of. so it at least proves that Anakin is capable of taking someone like Windu down. whether he actually does defeat him is a different story.