Broly, Goku, and Trunks vs Buu, Vegito, and Gohan

Started by adventbleach1115 pages

exactly

Team 1 gets owned.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
That's just your interpretation.

You think that Broly is stronger than everybody else because he was superior at the start. Just like Nappa, Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, Androids, Buu and everybody else were. They seemed superior and invulnerable, then it turned out that they were not.

For some reason however you think that the Broly incident has a major case of the PIS because Broly's footsteps were sooo powerful! and he.....DESTROYED THAT CLIFF A BIT EASIER THAN THE OTHER GUYS DID! I mean, normally people manipulate ki whenever they do something, but in this case IT WAS PURELY PHYSICAL!

Interpretation? Since going by what DBZers in CANON can do, it is not an interpretation, it is LOGICAL.

No, I think he is superior because he has the single best feats in all of DBZ, canon and noncanon. Broly is by no means invincible. But unless Buu can bust out of the power of three full power Kamehamehas along with one single blast that was at least planet destroying(prolly more) along with the sun crushing him from the other side, Buu can't kill Broly.

Destroyed the cliff with what was the equivelant of a light tap. Did we see any real instance of ki-usage? Do we have any reason to believe he used ki to do it? No, no we don't.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Interpretation? Since going by what DBZers in CANON can do, it is not an interpretation, it is LOGICAL.

No, I think he is superior because he has the single best feats in all of DBZ, canon and noncanon. Broly is by no means invincible. But unless Buu can bust out of the power of three full power Kamehamehas along with one single blast that was at least planet destroying(prolly more) along with the sun crushing him from the other side, Buu can't kill Broly.

Destroyed the cliff with what was the equivelant of a light tap. Did we see any real instance of ki-usage? Do we have any reason to believe he used ki to do it? No, no we don't.

Yes.

This might be incredibly hard for you to understand or believe, but I believe that Buu can produce more damage than 3 Kamehameha's and Broly's PATHETIC attack. Because really, how strong can an attack be when it's deflected by 3 Kamehameha's from plain Super Saiyans?

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Yes.

This might be incredibly hard for you to understand or believe, but I believe that Buu can produce more damage than 3 Kamehameha's and Broly's PATHETIC attack. Because really, how strong can an attack be when it's deflected by 3 Kamehameha's from plain Super Saiyans?

It wasn't even really the Kamehamehas or Broly's attack which killed him, it was the sun that was the main factor. But since you clearly never watched the movies, you would be ignorant to this fact.

Lemme put it this way. In movie 1 Broly easily destroyed a planet with a small blast. Then, in movie 2, he did the exact same blast, only much bigger. So logically it would be much more powerful.

Now three Kamehamehas were able to push this blast back.

This is what I meant when I said for the sake of the noncanon plot, they had to be more powerful.

Since the movie is noncanon, the characters in the movie who also appear in the canon are not exactly the same.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
It wasn't even really the Kamehamehas or Broly's attack which killed him, it was the sun that was the main factor. But since you clearly never watched the movies, you would be ignorant to this fact.

Lemme put it this way. In movie 1 Broly easily destroyed a planet with a small blast. Then, in movie 2, he did the exact same blast, only much bigger. So logically it would be much more powerful.

Now three Kamehamehas were able to push this blast back.

This is what I meant when I said for the sake of the noncanon plot, they had to be more powerful.

Since the movie is noncanon, the characters in the movie who also appear in the canon are not exactly the same.

Howcome?

Because being noncanon means it is not 100% true to the canon manga, which means there can be differences.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Because being noncanon means it is not 100% true to the canon manga, which means there can be differences.
Thanks for the clarification.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
It wasn't even really the Kamehamehas or Broly's attack which killed him, it was the sun that was the main factor. But since you clearly never watched the movies, you would be ignorant to this fact.

Lemme put it this way. In movie 1 Broly easily destroyed a planet with a small blast. Then, in movie 2, he did the exact same blast, only much bigger. So logically it would be much more powerful.

Now three Kamehamehas were able to push this blast back.

This is what I meant when I said for the sake of the noncanon plot, they had to be more powerful.

Since the movie is noncanon, the characters in the movie who also appear in the canon are not exactly the same.

brolly didnt one shot the galaxy.

destroying a planet is no that big of a feat since frieza was destroying planets easily....heck vegeta could destroy a planet at that time. in the 1st movie it was a moon he destoyed not a planet(and i do know what ur talking about the lil alien's homeworld)

instead of amping a super saiyan 1's power why not make him ssj2 like they they made goku go false ssj during the lord slug movie

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Yes.

This might be incredibly hard for you to understand or believe, but I believe that Buu can produce more damage than 3 Kamehameha's and Broly's PATHETIC attack. Because really, how strong can an attack be when it's deflected by 3 Kamehameha's from plain Super Saiyans?

Pathetic attack? When has Broly ever used a pathetic attack? THe 3K's didn't really hurt him and they didn't kill him. The sun is what killed Broly. Broly was obviously weaker or jobbing in the second movie to based off of the sole fact that Videl fought him and survived.

Hell since when were Kamehamehas weak? They have a better record against enemies then the Spirit Bomb has. Hell it was stated that Goku could've destroyed the planet with the one he was charging against Cell but he instead he warped in his face.

Broly, Goku, and Trunks vs Buu, Vegito, and Gohan

Um why does this person keep making these silly threads?

Broly isn't as strong as a Super Saiyan 2 never mind being stronger the combined Goku and Vegita Vegito.

Trunks isnt in the same league as any version of Buu.

By the end of Dragonball Z Gohan was much more powerful than Goku according the shows creator. Jeesh is this forum filled wiht 10 years olds or something? You act like Broly is unstoppable but as I said any full powered SSJ 2 is more powerful than he is. The most powerful version of Trunks couldnt even beat Cell using 40 percent of his power. Goku at SSJ 3 was weaker than Gotenks version of SSJ 3 not to mention every other version of Buu besides Kid Buu

vegito solo everyone..

Originally posted by big juggy man
Broly, Goku, and Trunks vs Buu, Vegito, and Gohan

Um why does this person keep making these silly threads?

Broly isn't as strong as a Super Saiyan 2 never mind being stronger the combined Goku and Vegita Vegito.

Trunks isnt in the same league as any version of Buu.

By the end of Dragonball Z Gohan was much more powerful than Goku according the shows creator. Jeesh is this forum filled wiht 10 years olds or something? You act like Broly is unstoppable but as I said any full powered SSJ 2 is more powerful than he is. The most powerful version of Trunks couldnt even beat Cell using 40 percent of his power. Goku at SSJ 3 was weaker than Gotenks version of SSJ 3 not to mention every other version of Buu besides Kid Buu

TBH this match shouldn't exist. It's Goku fighting Goku and Vegeta. On one team you have a legendary SSJ, the illustrious hero and....Trunks. On the other you have the strongest version of fusion with a near unstoppable mystic being and the strongest unfused DBZ warrior.

Trunks goes down first. I think we can all agree on that.

Yes i can agree on that,trunks goes down first

throwing this out there again after noticing it earlier. Wiki has the Broly movie listed as canon.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
TBH this match shouldn't exist. It's Goku fighting Goku and Vegeta. On one team you have a legendary SSJ, the illustrious hero and....Trunks. On the other you have the strongest version of fusion with a near unstoppable mystic being and the strongest unfused DBZ warrior.

Trunks goes down first. I think we can all agree on that.

😂 Every thread he makes randomly has Trunks in it.

Originally posted by TheBadguy
throwing this out there again after noticing it earlier. Wiki has the Broly movie listed as canon.

😂 Every thread he makes randomly has Trunks in it.

Broli isn't canon. Its possible to fit in sure but highly unlikely to happen but most important Akira didn't create him.

Are you sure?

Assuming GT isn't accounted for (it usually never is, to no surprise), I would say that the only one on team 1 who comes close to matching anyone on team 2 is Broly. Anyone on team two could beat Goku and Trunks, especially Vegito (the strongest canon Z character). The same goes for Gohan, assuming he's in his Ultimte/Mystic/Chou Gohan form (said to have made him the most powerful non-fused character in Z and second only to Vegito among the good guys when including fused characters). As for Buu, it depends on which one we're talking about. From the strongest Buu to the weakest Buu, I think the list probably looks something like this:

-Buuhan
-Buutenks
-South Supreme Kai Buu(?)
-Normal Super Buu/Piccolo Buu
-Kid Buu (sources that imply him as the strongest Buu are either faulty translations or misinterpreted dialogue)
-Evil/Skinny Buu
-Fat Buu

I'm practically 100% certain on the first two, and the last three. I'm not entirely sure which is stronger between Super Buu and Piccolo Buu, and I'm basing what I say about the South Supreme Kai Buu (aka Buff Buu) on the fact that South Supreme Kai was said to be the strongest of the supreme kais, and East Supreme Kai, the weakest (according to himself), was presumably more powerful than Piccolo (seeing as how the latter had thrown the fight with him at the tournament before the first punch was thrown).

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
No, I think he is superior because he has the single best feats in all of DBZ, canon and noncanon. Broly is by no means invincible. But unless Buu can bust out of the power of three full power Kamehamehas along with one single blast that was at least planet destroying(prolly more) along with the sun crushing him from the other side, Buu can't kill Broly.

Well to be fair, when Buuhan was fighting Vegito, he became so enraged that he began to power up beyond his limits to the point that he was creating a rift that was stated to be able to tear apart the universe if left unchecked. Vegito was strong enough to stop this with one charge. Now whether or not Broly can unleash such an attack/prevent it the same way Vegito did is the part up for debate.

Originally posted by adventbleach111
Are you sure?
Yes. Akira had nothing to do with the movies. Even though the Broli movies could take place, though the first would be nearly impossible to actually happen it could take place, they aren't canon. Just like Bojack movie could take place, and Taipon movie could take place. Those are really the only ones that can take place but still aren't canon because they weren't created by Akira. He did create History of Trunks but the movie isn't canon simply because it changes a bit from what happens in the manga. The only movie really could be canon is Bardock because Akira helped create that.

@Tsurugi - That Buuhan thing was noncanon. As was mostly every single cool part of Vegetto/Buu fight.

Originally posted by Kento
Yes. Akira had nothing to do with the movies. Even though the Broli movies could take place, though the first would be nearly impossible to actually happen it could take place, they aren't canon. Just like Bojack movie could take place, and Taipon movie could take place. Those are really the only ones that can take place but still aren't canon because they weren't created by Akira. He did create History of Trunks but the movie isn't canon simply because it changes a bit from what happens in the manga. The only movie really could be canon is Bardock because Akira helped create that.

@Tsurugi - That Buuhan thing was noncanon. As was mostly every single cool part of Vegetto/Buu fight.

Oh I see,it was only non canon because Akira did not help....