buu and gotenks ripped the holes in the dimension while in the hyberbolic chamber thats probably where they got that idea for later on in the anime.
Originally posted by Kento
Broli isn't canon. Its possible to fit in sure but highly unlikely to happen but most important Akira didn't create him.
Toriyama did create him, they even have his character designs of him in the Daizenshu
Daizenshuu also has GT stuff in them which Akira had little to do with. And it also says Tien knows Kaioken though he has never used it. Its also suppose to say Gohan was ssj2 in movie 10 though he doesn't have the aura. Also has power levels that says Tien equals Vegeta in power when Freeza comes to Earth, is stronger than Vegeta during Namek and also that Tien was more powerful than Dabura.
Originally posted by Kento
Daizenshuu also has GT stuff in them which Akira had little to do with. And it also says Tien knows Kaioken though he has never used it. Its also suppose to say Gohan was ssj2 in movie 10 though he doesn't have the aura. Also has power levels that says Tien equals Vegeta in power when Freeza comes to Earth, is stronger than Vegeta during Namek and also that Tien was more powerful than Dabura.
I know all about the Daizen's bullshit when it comes to some of the stuff inside the series. It's similar to the marvel handbook in that regard. Though that doesn't effect facts that are in it about the actual real life making of the series.
Originally posted by yungz221. Either he one shotted it, or Broly is the single fastest character to ever appear in DBZ. Take your pic. Broly did it over an incredibly short amount of time. So he is either many times FTL or a near galaxy buster. Choose one.
brolly didnt one shot the galaxy.destroying a planet is no that big of a feat since frieza was destroying planets easily....heck vegeta could destroy a planet at that time. in the 1st movie it was a moon he destoyed not a planet(and i do know what ur talking about the lil alien's homeworld)
instead of amping a super saiyan 1's power why not make him ssj2 like they they made goku go false ssj during the lord slug movie
2. Only he has destroyed more than a planet. And Broly did so while not even near the planet. Easily. And in the first movie he destroyed those alien's home "PLANET", not moon.
3. Because SSJ2 might not have been invented at the time is my guess but I am not sure. And this is all pure speculating you are doing.
Originally posted by Kento
Broli isn't canon. Its possible to fit in sure but highly unlikely to happen but most important Akira didn't create him.
i read an interview on this website by toriyama (i found it by google) and he said there are 4 movies that are canon and they are Bardock, history of trunks,brolly and bojack.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Either he one shotted it, or Broly is the single fastest character to ever appear in DBZ. Take your pic. Broly did it over an incredibly short amount of time. So he is either many times FTL or a near galaxy buster. Choose one.2. Only he has destroyed more than a planet. And Broly did so while not even near the planet. Easily. And in the first movie he destroyed those alien's home "PLANET", not moon.
3. Because SSJ2 might not have been invented at the time is my guess but I am not sure. And this is all pure speculating you are doing.
also feats dont really mean anything sometimes just because one person does something doesnt mean the other person cant do it.
oh and the brolly movie came out right before the cell games started so of cousre they knew ssj 2 was coming. they also wouldnt have stressed the fact that you have to be stronger than an ultra super saiyan to beat cell
Originally posted by yungz221. Even if Broly started destroying it in his lifetime, it would make him FTL. And we know he started doing so after Broly was subjected to his father's control device, so Broly was about 20 or so when he started AT LEAST. So if in a span of 8 years he did such a thing, he is incredibly fast.
do you even know what a time lapse is? its when they show change happen over a short period of time that's what it was. kind of like how on a documentary they show a plant growing. they are not going to sit there and watch the plant grow. that takes too long so they fast forward it. Yes it was destroyed quickly but not as fast as you make it seem.
That is why king Kai was afraid.also feats dont really mean anything sometimes just because one person does something doesnt mean the other person cant do it.
oh and the brolly movie came out right before the cell games started so of cousre they knew ssj 2 was coming. they also wouldnt have stressed the fact that you have to be stronger than an ultra super saiyan to beat cell
No, you bring the interview. If it is a real, credible interview from Toriyama himself, I'll concede the entire debate.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Even if Broly started destroying it in his lifetime, it would make him FTL. And we know he started doing so after Broly was subjected to his father's control device, so Broly was about 20 or so when he started AT LEAST. So if in a span of 8 years he did such a thing, he is incredibly fast.No, you bring the interview. If it is a real, credible interview from Toriyama himself, I'll concede the entire debate.
i saw this site like the first time i told you it was canon idk what the website was called that is why told you how to find it
when i say came out i mean released for us to watch in japan
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I don't give a rat's ass what wikipedia says.Hell, it used to say Broly had nigh omnipotent reality warping powers, and I shit you not.
wtf
Originally posted by yungz22
i read an interview on this website by toriyama (i found it by google) and he said there are 4 movies that are canon and they are Bardock, history of trunks,brolly and bojack.
I remember years ago when we first had access to the movies, those were the ones the dbz community considered canon. Bardock/Trunks because they have a place in the manga, and Broly/Bojack because of how well they fit and statements Toriyama made. I wish I would've kept track of some of that stuff it would really help these days. I'll look for the interview you're talking about.
oh yeah and Broly one shotted it