Superman vs Blackbolt

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I'll look into it, I know Glad's is one of the few top tiers in marvel who uses speed in combat (although Glads doesn't use it as well as Supes does) but I don't think he can use his MA while moving at supersonic speed like Supes. On that note did Glad use his speed agaisnt BB and did he striking and move invisably fast agaisnt him?

Blackbolt has superspeed as well. And martial arts training. Why are you arguing for one person when you, as the OP, know nothing about his opponent?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Blackbolt has superspeed as well. And martial arts training. Why are you arguing for one person when you, as the OP, know nothing about his opponent?

Im asking for a very specific example of BB displaying supersonic MA speed. I don't doubt that he has superspeed or his MA dicipline...but has he ever applied "superspeed"to his MA in h2h situations like Supes has?

BB is very good, but Superman has feats and power to back up a win here. Sonics are an established minor weakness of Kal -together with lighting- but I don't really think it would come to BB screaming.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I'll look into it, I know Glad's is one of the few top tiers in marvel who uses speed in combat (although Glads doesn't use it as well as Supes does) but I don't think he can use his MA while moving at supersonic speed like Supes. On that note did Glad use his speed agaisnt BB and did he striking and move invisably fast agaisnt him?

Like i said Superman wins 7.5/10 a majority but 10/10 is really stupid considering the guys has k.o Superman like char before with mere whispers

Originally posted by kgkg
He doesn't have millions of issues like Superman, thats the reason.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So can BB handle Supes h2h ability and speed, or how about his striking power. How's BB ability to evade speeding energy blast like Supes HV....aside from his scream BB has no chance.

He's tangled with people in Supermans tier when it comes to strength, in Hulk, Thor and Gladiator.

He's very good at energy manipulation via his own powers.

You really need to read up on BB. Because you're doing him an enormous disservice with what you post.

He's not gonna take him down in a physical hth fight, but he's not gonna crumple like foil in the path of a bear.

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
To my knowledge bb's voice has nothing to do with volume... its sheer electron force

Edit: Also, i dunno how comparable this is but i believe bb has beaten glatiator with a whisper...

i thought it was a combination of several things...

yea it was mutliple things. the whisper in the end was finisher. and he's not gonna whisper in supermans ear

Originally posted by UniOmni
He's tangled with people in Supermans tier when it comes to strength, in Hulk, Thor and Gladiator.

He's very good at energy manipulation via his own powers.

You really need to read up on BB. Because you're doing him an enormous disservice with what you post.

He's not gonna take him down in a physical hth fight, but he's not gonna crumple like foil in the path of a bear.

I take Supes h2h speed,striking power, MA ability and exotic powers into account when debating for him. Since Supes is one of the few characters whom actually applies the full range of his abilities during battle, I can see this fight being over rather quickly. Even excluding a bullrush, Supes combat speed and MA application are worlds ahead of BB. I can't see BB getting a single win outside somehow landing a scream....

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I take Supes h2h speed,striking power, MA ability and exotic powers into account when debating for him. Since Supes is one of the few characters whom actually applies the full range of his abilities during battle, I can see this fight being over rather quickly. Even excluding a bullrush, Supes combat speed and MA application are worlds ahead of BB. I can't see BB getting a single win outside somehow landing a scream....

Because you don't know much about BB...?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Because you don't know much about BB...?

Because I doubt that BB has supersonic h2h speed or punches that could crumble dwarf planets while holding back.

Does he need them?

BB isn't primarily a hth fighter.

Right...so aside from his scream what does he do agaisnt Clark. A bullrush a nanosecond into the battle or a HV blast would really be all she wrote.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Right...so aside from his scream what does he do agaisnt Clark. A bullrush a nanosecond into the battle or a HV blast would really be all she wrote.

Or BB blasts him with Anti-Matter, or decides that Supes' bullrush hurts and thus screams out in pain...

You know. A number of things are possible. It doesn't always come down to H2H.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Or BB blasts him with Anti-Matter, or decides that Supes' bullrush hurts and thus screams out in pain...

You know. A number of things are possible. It doesn't always come down to H2H.

iirc, superman has a decent resistance to anti-matter...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Or BB blasts him with Anti-Matter, or decides that Supes' bullrush hurts and thus screams out in pain...

You know. A number of things are possible. It doesn't always come down to H2H.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/ActionComics762p15.jpg

Just want to point out that there isn't anything preventing Supes from tearing BB's jaw out during the bullrush. On the note of those Anti-matter blast.....

http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speedblitzor1.jpg

Technically, since kryptonite is radiation in electromagnetic wavelength form it should be lightspeed. I'm not claiming it was in that particular situation since comic physics are wonky as hell, but if we did appy real-world physics that would mean supes moved at FTL speed and reacted with FTL reflext to deflect those bolts.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/ActionComics762p15.jpg

What's that prove?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Just want to point out that there isn't anything preventing Supes from tearing BB's jaw out during the bullrush.

Sure there is. It's called Superman's personality. And BB's durability.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
On the note of those Anti-matter blast.....

http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speedblitzor1.jpg

Technically, since kryptonite is radiation in electromagnetic wavelength form it should be lightspeed. I'm not claiming it was in that particular situation since comic physics are wonky as hell, but if we did appy real-world physics that would mean supes moved at FTL speed and reacted with FTL reflext to deflect those bolts.

Gotta admit, that's impressive. But 1) he doesn't start off with a piece of glass to deflect BB's blast. 2) Anti-matter would obliterate that piece of glass.

@ Raoul: I think you may be referring to Entropy...That, or PC Supes with the Anti-Monitor?

Originally posted by Enyalus
@ Raoul: I think you may be referring to Entropy...That, or PC Supes with the Anti-Monitor?

i doubt anyone below, well, godly, is truly immune to entropy...

i'm pretty sure its anti-matter, i need to remember where i read it... besides COIE, of course...

Originally posted by Enyalus

What's that prove?

Sure there is. It's called Superman's personality. And BB's durability.

Gotta admit, that's impressive. But 1) he doesn't start off with a piece of glass to deflect BB's blast. 2) Anti-matter would obliterate that piece of glass.

@ Raoul: I think you may be referring to Entropy...That, or PC Supes with the Anti-Monitor? [/B]

The first scan is to establish his battle tendecy of bullrushing, Ethrigen is stated as having superspeed (altough he's never shown it). Even if it isn't in Supes character to rip things apart...I don't see why he coudln't apply preasure strikes during the bullrush.

The second scan is to establish his mobilty and reflex in dodging projectiles...like say a anti-matter blast.

Originally posted by Raoul
i doubt anyone below, well, godly, is truly immune to entropy...

Sundipped Supes may have taken an Entropy blast from Imperiex in OWAW...although it was never proven that that's what he hit Supes with.

But meh, I agree. 😄