WW3 Black Adam-Wonder Woman vs Fully Confident Gladiator-Blackbolt

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Originally posted by Badabing
So, let's just be clear about this. Carver believes this bio which is found on Wizard more than what's shown in comics.

Okay, this is from Countdown 48. Superman flies from Vega to Earth. Vega is 25 light years away.

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So, 2,000 mps is about 1.075% the speed of light. At 2,000 mps, it would take Superman about 2,325.5 years to get to Earth from Vega. From the scans, it doesn't look like that much time elapsed. 😕 I mean the buildings look the same and Jimmy is still the same age. 😄

Here we have Superman flying Darkseid to the Source Wall. The Source Wall is at the edge of the DCU.
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I never realized that 2,000 mps could create a tear in space (see boom) and get to the end of the Universe so quickly! msn-oh

I guess the DCU is smaller than our Solar System. 😬

Carver, congrats on proving that a bio from Wizard trumps on panel feats and showing. Let's face it, your proof makes much more sense when put against the feats than what actually happened in the comics. You sir are a renaissance man and should be commended. clapping

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Lol, good one badabing, Im glad that youre not mad at me for even posting that, I actually thought I was going to get banned when I posted it but I forgot that the mods arent like other people on here, they actually have a sense of humor.

I never questioned supermans space flight, whats in question is his speed when he is on a planet with gravity. All of his earth flights indicate nothing close to the speed of light and there are to many instances that states that supermans speed is within or even below 2000mps.

His space flight is amazing, hell super skrull space flight is amazing but when they're performed where there is gravity at play then thats where it changes. I actually think that writers use the gravity in space thing to the heart. I think that they think that without gravity there should be nothing to weigh you down. Vulcan flew across the universe in less then 7 days, that would basically make him>>>superman. Do you thik that vulcan can speed blitz superman. Hyperion flew from the earth to the sun in one panel and then flew through the sun in this same panel, does that mean that he can blitz superman.

Space flight dont equal light speed. Superman speed is contradicting because out of everything that you posted I could easily post a scan of wonder woman saying that superman cant cover 22000 miles instantly or post a scan of superman admitting that he cant go the speed of light.

Originally posted by fangirl101
She can't? Should I post scans?
yes, show me her taking an infinite amount of energy

Originally posted by fangirl101
No it doesn't. It does not show that KIND of fighting. A panel description of how fast someone reacts or throws one blow is just that. Silver surfer has better reaction speeds than the panel description in glads fight with hype. But Surfer can't fight like the scan I just posted either. So just post a scan. Remember when you wouldn't take my word for it that wonder woman could fight at superspeeds. No matter what the panels said or what I did. Now I proved that she can. If you are defending Glads, you must now do the same. I'm holding you to the same measure of proof that you requred of me.

Well hey, remember going by narrative suggestion Supes can move the planet. Wasn't it also stated that lightray can fight at 10 times FTL if im not mistaken...so that would mean Lightray>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone's combat speed.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No it doesn't. It does not show that KIND of fighting. A panel description of how fast someone reacts or throws one blow is just that. Silver surfer has better reaction speeds than the panel description in glads fight with hype. But Surfer can't fight like the scan I just posted either. So just post a scan.

Surfer actually can fight like the scan u just posted. And panel description explaining to us the time in which such movements are taking place is certainly proof enough. Marvel doesnt depict incidents like that artistically very often, but instead of that they made use of a panel description and that is more than sufficient.

And as for the part u added. Those times were not even comparable. I never ignored narration specifying fighting speed.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol, good one badabing, Im glad that youre not mad at me for even posting that, I actually thought I was going to get banned when I posted it but I forgot that the mods arent like other people on here, they actually have a sense of humor.

I never questioned supermans space flight, whats in question is his speed when he is on a planet with gravity. All of his earth flights indicate nothing close to the speed of light and there are to many instances that states that supermans speed is within or even below 2000mps.

His space flight is amazing, hell super skrull space flight is amazing but when they're performed where there is gravity at play then thats where it changes. I actually think that writers use the gravity in space thing to the heart. I think that they think that without gravity there should be nothing to weigh you down. Vulcan flew across the universe in less then 7 days, that would basically make him>>>superman. Do you thik that vulcan can speed blitz superman. Hyperion flew from the earth to the sun in one panel and then flew through the sun in this same panel, does that mean that he can blitz superman.

Space flight dont equal light speed. Superman speed is contradicting because out of everything that you posted I could easily post a scan of wonder woman saying that superman cant cover 22000 miles instantly or post a scan of superman admitting that he cant go the speed of light.


Do you know what would happen if Superman raced thru the earth's atmosphere at his top speed? He would ignite the earth's biosphere and destroy all life on the planet. Please keep up. The only reason flashes can do it is because they have the speed aura that protects the envirement around them. Damn. Do you read DC? Should I post the scans of why Superman doesn't fly that fast on earth and why flash can move faster if he wants? Shall? I'm really good with scansthese days.

Originally posted by Badabing
Stop harassing Great Galan!

lol.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Surfer actually can fight like the scan u just posted. And panel description explaining to us the time in which such movements are taking place is certainly proof enough. Marvel doesnt depict incidents like that artistically very often, but instead of that they made use of a panel description and that is more than sufficient.

SS can fight DBZ style...okay this debate is over u win 🙂

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well hey, remember going by narrative suggestion Supes can move the planet. Wasn't it also stated that lightray can fight at 10 times FTL if im not mistaken...so that would mean Lightray>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone's combat speed.

It never said that he can fight that fast, he was flying that fast which is something that a depowered gladiator can do in his sleep with his legs cut off.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Surfer actually can fight like the scan u just posted. And panel description explaining to us the time in which such movements are taking place is certainly proof enough. Marvel doesnt depict incidents like that artistically very often, but instead of that they made use of a panel description and that is more than sufficient.

I clearly remember you not taking on panel explainations of Wondy's speed as enough. So i won't take on panel from you. they didn't explain quicksilver's speed. They just showed him beating the shit out of cyclops from all different directions. Show glads doing that or concede that he can't.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS can fight DBZ style...okay this debate is over u win 🙂

That'll never happen.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well hey, remember going by narrative suggestion Supes can move the planet. Wasn't it also stated that lightray can fight at 10 times FTL if im not mistaken...so that would mean Lightray>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone's combat speed.
Actually i can post lightray's speed. Trust me, He owns everyone.

Originally posted by Mindset
yes, show me her taking an infinite amount of energy

Originally posted by fangirl101
I clearly remember you not taking on panel explainations of Wondy's speed as enough. So i won't take on panel from you. they didn't explain quicksilver's speed. They just showed him beating the shit out of cyclops from all different directions. Show glads doing that or concede that he can't.

That is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. U never showed any scan of wondy in which they actually gave a specific time period for the fighting. What u did was show scans saying that wondy had the speed of hermes and other such things. Its not even comparable.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol, good one badabing, Im glad that youre not mad at me for even posting that, I actually thought I was going to get banned when I posted it but I forgot that the mods arent like other people on here, they actually have a sense of humor.

I never questioned supermans space flight, whats in question is his speed when he is on a planet with gravity. All of his earth flights indicate nothing close to the speed of light and there are to many instances that states that supermans speed is within or even below 2000mps.

His space flight is amazing, hell super skrull space flight is amazing but when they're performed where there is gravity at play then thats where it changes. I actually think that writers use the gravity in space thing to the heart. I think that they think that without gravity there should be nothing to weigh you down. Vulcan flew across the universe in less then 7 days, that would basically make him>>>superman. Do you thik that vulcan can speed blitz superman. Hyperion flew from the earth to the sun in one panel and then flew through the sun in this same panel, does that mean that he can blitz superman.

Space flight dont equal light speed. Superman speed is contradicting because out of everything that you posted I could easily post a scan of wonder woman saying that superman cant cover 22000 miles instantly or post a scan of superman admitting that he cant go the speed of light.

Actually, since Raoul is back maybe we can reopen a rules discussion thread. I know inconsistencies was a big issue.

As far as flight in gravity, there were 2 prevailing thoughts. Supes and his ilk can't or they won't due to adverse affects. Superman manipulates gravitons for flight.

Okay, I'm done messing with carver but I will reopen the discussion thread.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
That is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. U never showed any scan of wondy in which they actually gave a specific time period for the fighting. What u did was show scans saying that wondy had the speed of hermes and other such things. Its not even comparable.

It clearly is. When Herme's Speed is documented at DC at 300,000k per second in space. And faster still if he uses his sandals.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS can fight DBZ style...okay this debate is over u win 🙂

debate? With u this was never a debate. And SS has shown the ability to initiate blitzez using his blasts and scans have been shown of this before. But when u think he has a weakness to magic 🙄 Im not surprised.

Originally posted by Badabing
Actually, since Raoul is back maybe we can reopen a rules discussion thread. I know inconsistencies was a big issue.

As far as flight in gravity, there were 2 prevailing thoughts. Supes and his ilk can't or they won't due to adverse affects. Superman manipulates gravitons for flight.

Okay, I'm done messing with carver but I will reopen the discussion thread.


Superman reality warps and the affect pulls him along. Desaad gave the description of his powers. hate to be in front of that in a bull rush.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
debate? With u this was never a debate. And SS has shown the ability to initiate blitzez using his blasts and scans have been shown of this before. But when u think he has a weakness to magic 🙄 Im not surprised.
That does not compute. initiate blast is not hand to hand. remember how you gave me such a hard time about wonder woman becuz I only posted her moving fast against blast? then you turn around and pull the same crap with surfer? you are so full of it it's not even funny. hippocrit.

LMAO at SS blasting bolts...this thread is lolz.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It clearly is. When Herme's Speed is documented at DC at 300,000k per second in space. And faster still if he uses his sandals.

This is not about how fast hermes is. It is about a specific time period being given for the fighting which regardless of depiction wud indicate superspeed. I never doubted that she cud move as fast as hermes. I was talking about the evidence application of such in battle, hence no dat ive seen evidence of such speed i have no longer continued that arguement.