Originally posted by quanchi112Is that the only thing I said in that entire post? Is that the only thing that you saw that you actually could try and disprove? Look thru the thread. Jay was pwning BA and had him on the defensive for the first part of thier fight.
Are you telling me Jay Garrick hits as hard as Black Adam?
Originally posted by Raoul
it's not really an excuse, though.superman can defy gravity when he wants to. he can fly ftl in outer space, by accelerating to that speed. there's absolutely nothing stopping him from accelerating to that speed on earth, bar his own wishes not to kill anyone.
a sonic boom can still cause damage, if he slows down not to cause those, then there's no way he'd ever purposely go so fast as to cause damage to earth...
his powers affect the world around him. the flashes don't, and as far as the marvel's and wonder woman go, their powers are based on magic. their speed could easily be magic to the point that their speed doesnt cause sonic booms or problems with the earth.
superman has no such luxury, hence his insane need for control...
Ummm, yes they can create sonic booms.
http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=7cd15_flash3.jpg
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and kg kg, this is what you were asking for.
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Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Not in DC. Speedsters hit harder than bricks. Or shall I post examples of Jay garrick going at it with Black Adam? Or flash pwning a white martian? Or Zoom beating wonder woman literally around the world? He hit her at faster than light speeds. Superman and wondy were fighting and moving at C. She even calls on the speed of hermes as superman drags her toward the sun at far faster than C.
They werent fighting at c.
Originally posted by carver9
Ummm, yes they can create sonic booms.http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=7cd15_flash3.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dc52week12005xo8.jpg
and kg kg, this is what you were asking for.
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Originally posted by fangirl101
Becuz you say so? Prove it.
Its common sense that they were not fighting at c. 1st thing max lord seen the entire fight and he is a human with mind powers. Second, they werent even doing much on there way there. So if your saying that they was fight at c then that basically mean that max lord has the ability to see as fast as the flash.
Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Not in DC. Speedsters hit harder than bricks. Or shall I post examples of Jay garrick going at it with Black Adam? Or flash pwning a white martian? Or Zoom beating wonder woman literally around the world? He hit her at faster than light speeds. Superman and wondy were fighting and moving at C. She even calls on the speed of hermes as superman drags her toward the sun at far faster than C.
Jay garrick going at it with BA does not mean he hits harder than him. His speed was obviously giving him the edge. In Dc who are those with the better striking feats the speedsters or the bricks? And supes and wondy were NOT fighting at C at all. Supes flight speed is what gets them to the sun and the sun his huge haymaker sends wondy back to earth. Now on eath they did figt at superspeeds but nothing near C.
Originally posted by carver9
Its common sense that they were not fighting at c. 1st thing max lord seen the entire fight and he is a human with mind powers. Second, they werent even doing much on there way there. So if your saying that they was fight at c then that basically mean that max lord has the ability to see as fast as the flash.
The fight was less than two minutes.
It takes light 8 minutes to get to the earth. So how fast do you think it took for them to get to the sun? they were of course fighting the entire way there.
Then, we have the birds. Birds don't move at superspeed. So you have to take time out of the two minute fight for wondy to call the birds and them to respond. even the fastest birds would have taken at least 30 seconds to gather. Then we have hiding form him. Also time taken. We have him being injured. Time taken. And her in a crater for a few seconds. Also time. That means any interation that they had during the time left was at ridiculous speeds. also validated by the fact that superman's punch was much greater than C. sending Wondy back to earth at 80 times the speed of light.
Originally posted by ultimatethorThey were fighting on the way to the sun and at the sun. Do I need to post the entire fight? I know what I"m talking about. I've studied it.
Jay garrick going at it with BA does not mean he hits harder than him. His speed was obviously giving him the edge. In Dc who are those with the better striking feats the speedsters or the bricks? And supes and wondy were NOT fighting at C at all. Supes flight speed is what gets them to the sun and the sun his huge haymaker sends wondy back to earth. Now on eath they did figt at superspeeds but nothing near C.
Originally posted by fangirl101When was Garrick pwning Black Adam?
Is that the only thing I said in that entire post? Is that the only thing that you saw that you actually could try and disprove? Look thru the thread. Jay was pwning BA and had him on the defensive for the first part of thier fight.
Originally posted by fangirl101
They were fighting on the way to the sun and at the sun. Do I need to post the entire fight? I know what I"m talking about. I've studied it.
Yes please post the entire fight becuz ive seen it and i dont know what u r talkin about. Superman charges at her and fires heat vision, she blocks it, he grabs her and begins to choke her and nezt thing u know they are at the sun. Clear indication of high level flight speed.
Originally posted by fangirl101
common sense would dictate that max can see the fight thru superman's eyes since he can't see all the way to the sun. now let me just fix your thinking.The fight was less than two minutes.
It takes light 8 minutes to get to the earth. So how fast do you think it took for them to get to the sun? they were of course fighting the entire way there.
Then, we have the birds. Birds don't move at superspeed. So you have to take time out of the two minute fight for wondy to call the birds and them to respond. even the fastest birds would have taken at least 30 seconds to gather. Then we have hiding form him. Also time taken. We have him being injured. Time taken. And her in a crater for a few seconds. Also time. That means any interation that they had during the time left was at ridiculous speeds. also validated by the fact that superman's punch was much greater than C. sending Wondy back to earth at 80 times the speed of light.
This entire post was ridiculous. Max lord didnt see the fight from anyone head, he seen it on screen. Let me tell you this again, maybe you'll understand, he seen the fight on screen. Not from superman head or even wonder womans head so stop saying that crap.
I agree, superman had some amazing space flight in that story but hey you already know what I'm going to say about that.
Now lets get back to max lord seeing this off of a screen, that basically mean that in order for him to see a light speed fight, he would have never seen the entire fight because the screen would have to slow it down for him and wonder woman would have already been there.
Again if they were moving at c, how did a human see the entire fight.
Originally posted by ultimatethorand fighting speed. as Wondy indicates she needs the speed of hermes. she even uses her speed to avoid his heat vision burning her eye's out. You didn't pay attention to the fight did you?
Yes please post the entire fight becuz ive seen it and i dont know what u r talkin about. Superman charges at her and fires heat vision, she blocks it, he grabs her and begins to choke her and nezt thing u know they are at the sun. Clear indication of high level flight speed.
Originally posted by fangirl101
and fighting speed. as Wondy indicates she needs the speed of hermes. she even uses her speed to avoid his heat vision burning her eye's out. You didn't pay attention to the fight did you?
I think that you paid TO MUCH attention to the fight. 1st you say that wonder woman can fight like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq84z6YfEY
and then youre saying that the entire time she was fighting at c. Again she is fast but I think that youre giving her too much credit. By the way, glads would crush her.
Originally posted by fangirl101
and fighting speed. as Wondy indicates she needs the speed of hermes. she even uses her speed to avoid his heat vision burning her eye's out. You didn't pay attention to the fight did you?
U r obviously the one who is determined to blow it out of proportion. Superman goes after wonderwoman with heat vision, and sheblocks it. He then starts choking her and flying to the sun. She says Hermes give me speed and he blasts her with heatvision again, she then manages to use her hands to cover his eyes. Next thing we know they are at the sun. Thats not fighting at C speeds at all or even close to it.
Originally posted by carver9Dude. your hating of superman is legendary. now you know I can own you right? Superman fights at c. And his fight with wondy had moments of that. Superman fought Amazo at c just recently. Now please back up. before I post it and make you look ridiculous. well you already do. So more ridiculous.
This entire post was ridiculous. Max lord didnt see the fight from anyone head, he seen it on screen. Let me tell you this again, maybe you'll understand, he seen the fight on screen. Not from superman head or even wonder womans head so stop saying that crap.I agree, superman had some amazing space flight in that story but hey you already know what I'm going to say about that.
Now lets get back to max lord seeing this off of a screen, that basically mean that in order for him to see a light speed fight, he would have never seen the entire fight because the screen would have to slow it down for him and wonder woman would have already been there.
Again if they were moving at c, how did a human see the entire fight.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Dude. your hating of superman is legendary. now you know I can own you right? Superman fights at c. And his fight with wondy had moments of that. Superman fought Amazo at c just recently. Now please back up. before I post it and make you look ridiculous. well you already do. So more ridiculous.
Post the fight that i own, please do. I want to see the fight at c and I guess since Im not agree with you about wonder woman fighting at c then I hate her also. I dont think that martian manhunter can fight at c. I hate the fact that people think that surfer can fight at c when he hasnt shown it, he has shown that he can bull rush at c though. Hyperion dont have any on panel proof of fight at c along with sentry, he cant fight at c either, hell there isnt any on panel proof that he can create sonic booms from his punches like superman did (even though I still think that sentry is overrall more powerful then supes and could beat him, hell I think that sentry could also beat thor, just my opinion).
I guess I hate a lot of characters out there since they're not providing any on panel proof to persuade my opinion.
