Emma Frost vs Magneto

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
When Grant Morrison took over he retconned Magneto's helmet saying that it protected him against psychic attacks(Thanks to the Movie), Kid Omega hit Xavier on the back of the head with a baseball bat and placed Mags' helmet on top of him to prevent Charles from using his powers.
I'd say Mags updated his helmet there somewhere off panel.

Before that Mags was a telepath himself and/or was stated to have some sort of psychic powers, under Claremont he never displayed these powers and him resisting Xavier's attempts through his will power and psychic technology in his helmet. Magneto's powers were also shown to inhibit long ranged telepathy and managed to block Jean and Xavier in the first half of fatal attractions anyway.
In God Loves Man Kills a mind controlled Xavier(Again under Claremont) did mindblast Magneto's to the ground when he had his helmet on. Magneto just barely took the full blast with his helmet on and stated that Charles always held back in their previous encounters.(The helmet was knocked off after the blast and Magneto was weakened, he could barely move)

Regardless Magneto seems to have updated his gear off panel since Morrisons run so he'd win since Ems best power is being blocked.

Brilliantly said, darling, as usual🙂

Indeed!

Even though i still give Mags 10/10 against my favourite X-Woman, i do wonder if Emma would be able to bypass the helmet like leonidas implied (even if, it would surely take some time, so no use in a fight with Eric). Telepaths like those from the Grey-Summers or Xavier family lines may have shown more feats of raw power, but when it comes to versatility, innovation and creativity Emma is unsurpassed so far. She did bypass the tech-shields of the Sentinels, machinated her way into Xaviers mind and brought down Thought-Wall.
It's not about combat, i just wonder about her telepathic aptitude in general and the possibility of her bypassing Mag's helmet specifically. 🙂

"Off-panel" extrapolations and inferences are meaningless.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
"Off-panel" extrapolations and inferences are meaningless.

But on panel Magneto owning Storm many times is meaningful.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
When Grant Morrison took over he retconned Magneto's helmet saying that it protected him against psychic attacks(Thanks to the Movie), Kid Omega hit Xavier on the back of the head with a baseball bat and placed Mags' helmet on top of him to prevent Charles from using his powers.
I'd say Mags updated his helmet there somewhere off panel.

Before that Mags was a telepath himself and/or was stated to have some sort of psychic powers, under Claremont he never displayed these powers and him resisting Xavier's attempts through his will power and psychic technology in his helmet. Magneto's powers were also shown to inhibit long ranged telepathy and managed to block Jean and Xavier in the first half of fatal attractions anyway.
In God Loves Man Kills a mind controlled Xavier(Again under Claremont) did mindblast Magneto's to the ground when he had his helmet on. Magneto just barely took the full blast with his helmet on and stated that Charles always held back in their previous encounters.(The helmet was knocked off after the blast and Magneto was weakened, he could barely move)

Regardless Magneto seems to have updated his gear off panel since Morrisons run so he'd win since Ems best power is being blocked.

fair enough. 👆

Just went over some Magneto information again to make sure I remembered it correctly, and as it turns out I did.

Magneto without his helmet is already very resistent to any psychic attacks, and the helmet is in fact designed to stop psychic probing. Emma has no chance of mind wiping him, that's a simple fact, not something up for debate.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
"Off-panel" extrapolations and inferences are meaningless.

Which uses a fair bit more on-panel evidence than anything you've stated in this thread.

"Fair bit more" doesn't coun't.

Storm taught Iceman how to use his power, from which it can be infered that she has faaaaar more expertise with regard to kinetic energy and thermodynamics. This is not far fetched since she is the "weather witch".

Didn't Emma turn Iceman into the Omega that he should be?

no

She unlocked more of his potential though and showed him that he can do more with his powers.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
"Off-panel" extrapolations and inferences are meaningless.

Originally posted by id369

O-W-N-E-D

Emma wins.
she goes into diamond form, fights her way towards Magneto, Shruggs off the oncoming cars with a witty comment, punches him, grabs his helmet off, turns back to normal, psi-bolts him, puts him in a coma, then crushes the helmet beneath her diamond foot. or maybe she does that last bit before she psi-bolts him or, even better, crushes the helmet while it's still on his head. 😈

Magneto, easily.

Originally posted by batdude123
Magneto, easily.

Did you not read what i just wrote?

It doesn't matter.

Mags uses his powers to undo Emma`s boobjob and nosejob. Emma commits suicide by self-mindbolt 😛

Originally posted by psi-aura
Emma wins.
she goes into diamond form, fights her way towards Magneto, Shruggs off the oncoming cars with a witty comment, punches him, grabs his helmet off, turns back to normal, psi-bolts him, puts him in a coma, then crushes the helmet beneath her diamond foot. or maybe she does that last bit before she psi-bolts him or, even better, crushes the helmet while it's still on his head. 😈

Originally posted by psi-aura
Did you not read what i just wrote?

You don't think Magneto may have some good old natural TP resistances? You're acting like Magneto is going to fight like an idiot. Even a semi-competent Erik can beat her. Your scenario is horrible and out of character for Magneto. She can't do all of that if he is flying, you're acting like he's just going to be standing there. Magneto flies, encases her in metal, chucks her across the state. You're sounding like an Emma fan girl.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You don't think Magneto may have some good old natural TP resistances? You're acting like Magneto is going to fight like an idiot. Even a semi-competent Erik can beat her. Your scenario is horrible and out of character for Magneto. She can't do all of that if he is flying, you're acting like he's just going to be standing there. Magneto flies, encases her in metal, chucks her across the state. You're sounding like an Emma fan girl.

Of course i'm a fan of Emma, Darling, But you're acting like she is an idiot. true, she can't attack him while he's in the air, but i have no doubt her diamond can survive being throw across town in a metal pod. she's been punched across town by a sentinel before and has not been hurt, so the worst mags can do is delay his inevitable defeat by the strategy i posted earlier.

Originally posted by psi-aura
Emma wins.
she goes into diamond form, fights her way towards Magneto, Shruggs off the oncoming cars with a witty comment, punches him, grabs his helmet off, turns back to normal, psi-bolts him, puts him in a coma, then crushes the helmet beneath her diamond foot. or maybe she does that last bit before she psi-bolts him or, even better, crushes the helmet while it's still on his head. 😈