Emma Frost vs Magneto

Started by Charlotte DeBel19 pages

BTW, Exodus, to distant from that stupid spite thread...which issues of New Warriors that Emma\Magneto team up happens? Issue 8 or something like that?
If you can tell, I'll try and upload it in the RT tommorow.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
BTW, Exodus, to distant from that stupid spite thread...which issues of New Warriors that Emma\Magneto team up happens? Issue 8 or something like that?
If you can tell, I'll try and upload it in the RT tommorow.

I think it was an alternate universe so I wasn't really arsed cause the art isn't that great. Something to do with scanning all the minds of every single atlantean on Earth over a few months.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I think it was an alternate universe so I wasn't really arsed cause the art isn't that great. Something to do with scanning all the minds of every single atlantean on Earth over a few months.

OK then, though I keep in mind the "AU" section for the RT. I'm also going to use another board for the bulk of updated RT, the way Id did Kyle Rayner thread. No need to call mods over any single alteration... and yes, I'm planning to do that in spare time from my senior thesis.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
You don't get the difference between fan (aka knowing when to stop and respecting your opponent) and fanboy\fangirl (aka providing one-sided scenarios including opponent going into PIS\idiot mode just to have your beloved character score the win), right, darling? The second is what you're doing there.

I respect Magneto, but i am just confident that Emma could beat him (note thecould). Where and when does the battle take place? It's all under circumstance. if she was asleep, and mags took her by suprise, i think she would die. if she took him by suprise, he would probably lose.

Originally posted by psi-aura
No darling, he would just throw it back via magnetism. She would throw something more imaginative than a car, she would probably throw a huge lump of concrete or stone. Anyway, she dosn't have to sleep in diamond form, but he's got to sleep sometime, and when he does...

Does the concrete slab obliterate his shield?

I take it as default stipulation- aka 100 yards apart, open field setting...as nothing was stipulated otherwise.

I don't say Magneto wins EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE scenario, actually. Just that he has more chances to win there than vice verss.

Originally posted by psi-aura
I respect Magneto, but i am just confident that Emma could beat him (note thecould). Where and when does the battle take place? It's all under circumstance. if she was asleep, and mags took her by suprise, i think she would die. if she took him by suprise, he would probably lose.

Why in the hell would the battle take place while one is asleep? Even if Magneto was asleep he'd wake up and own her. Storm tried that and it wasn't pleasant for her.

I think Emma can win that handily via one-sided prep (she used to be quite prepsy with psi-amplifying tech) or via ambush (AKA Magneto doesn't know she's there and she's given a few minutes to try and bypass his natural defences). Random encounter or default debate setting=loss for Ems.

Where and When does this battle take place? The current version of Magneto is a lot weaker han normal, and Emma probably knows all of Scott's plans to deal with Magneto, but Mags probably knows hat Emma can't use TP(due to that damn sliver of the void), and that his helmet protects him from Psychic assult. (Where's her Latent TK when she needs it?) Emma can' hurt mags while he's in he air, but Mags can't hurt Emma while she's in Diamond form. Stalemate?
However, If boh were at their strongest, Mags would probably win in power terms, But i think Emma's smarter, and if she ever gets control of that latent telekenisis Mags doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by psi-aura
(--)However, If boh were at their strongest, Mags would probably win in power terms, But i think Emma's smarter, and if she ever gets control of that latent telekenisis Mags doesn't stand a chance.

Emma smarter than Mags? She is not that bright, handbooks usually rate her at average or above average intellect while Max is a genius and a master tactician to boot.

Granted she is clever and handbooks are often wrong, but Mags has her beaten by a mile in this department.

Magneto

Originally posted by Mshinu
Emma smarter than Mags? She is not that bright, handbooks usually rate her at average or above average intellect while Max is a genius and a master tactician to boot.

Granted she is clever and handbooks are often wrong, but Mags has her beaten by a mile in this department.

Handbooks are stupid, but MU seems to recognize her has a 7/7 on the smarts scale...

http://marvel.com/universe/Frost,_Emma

Okay, so she's omniscient?

Great.

Originally posted by Konton
Handbooks are stupid, but MU seems to recognize her has a 7/7 on the smarts scale...

http://marvel.com/universe/Frost,_Emma

Darling.... It's FAN VOTED site. That also showed Wolverine having 7\7 speed on the scale.
That's 100% crappier than every handbook as handbook numbers are checked at least a bit. And nobody checks that crap.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Emma smarter than Mags? She is not that bright, handbooks usually rate her at average or above average intellect while Max is a genius and a master tactician to boot.

Granted she is clever and handbooks are often wrong, but Mags has her beaten by a mile in this department.


Emma is smarter than say Kitty Pride, but being a gifted designer of psi-related devices (able to compete with Xavier in that field) doesn't translate into tactical genius\seasoned fighter. In the sence of tactical smarts Magneto has her beaten by landslide (is that how it's said?).

Originally posted by psi-aura
Where and When does this battle take place? The current version of Magneto is a lot weaker han normal, and Emma probably knows all of Scott's plans to deal with Magneto, but Mags probably knows hat Emma can't use TP(due to that damn sliver of the void), and that his helmet protects him from Psychic assult. (Where's her Latent TK when she needs it?) Emma can' hurt mags while he's in he air, but Mags can't hurt Emma while she's in Diamond form. Stalemate?
However, If boh were at their strongest, Mags would probably win in power terms, But i think Emma's smarter, and if she ever gets control of that latent telekenisis Mags doesn't stand a chance.

You just don't get it do you? KO/death isn't the only means to victory so Emma staying diamond does not equal a stalemate and what feats does her latent TK have that puts her over Magneto? Are you telling me that TK is Magneto's bane?

well, yes, because if emma had TK she could lift the helmet off, then mind bolt. Then again, I'm not entirley familier with how well his helmet protects from TK, coz as far as i know, it only protects against TP.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Emma smarter than Mags? She is not that bright, handbooks usually rate her at average or above average intellect while Max is a genius and a master tactician to boot.

Granted she is clever and handbooks are often wrong, but Mags has her beaten by a mile in this department.

Oh I can't get anything right, can i?

Originally posted by psi-aura
well, yes, because if emma had TK she could lift the helmet off, then mind bolt. Then again, I'm not entirley familier with how well his helmet protects from TK, coz as far as i know, it only protects against TP.

Of course, not like he could stop her from doing that...
Besides Mags doesn`t need the helmet. He is quite capable of resisting even Xavier without it.

Originally posted by psi-aura
well, yes, because if emma had TK she could lift the helmet off, then mind bolt. Then again, I'm not entirley familier with how well his helmet protects from TK, coz as far as i know, it only protects against TP.
Her tk would have to be stronger than his magnetism, and her tp would still have to get past his defenses.

And all this assuming Mags doesn't just attack her.

....

Magneto.