Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes has a weakness to magic. Just like he has a weakness against k-nite.
Like i said in my post. Everyone is weak towards magic unless they are a) immune to it or b) prep to be immune/resistant to it.
Most magic, wouldnt hurt Supes any more than it would someone else. A spell is a spell. A magical blast, is a magical blast.
Originally posted by kgkg
Gladiator and Superman WinsGaladiator >= Thor
Superman >= BAbut close I say Gladiator and Superman 6/10
superman > BA how you come up with that?
hes never beat BA or even dominated him. Lat time they met ba hardly broke a sweat and supes had a torn up outfit .
No my freind
BA > supes
Originally posted by carver9
but doctor light one shotted superman with a blast, gog one shotted superman with a blast along with kilowag.
Don't forget that when Dr. Light blasted him, Vixen had an undetermined amount of his power. As soon as she kissed him to give it back, he was right back on his feet.
I'm not sure which Gog encounter you mean...
Kilowog blasted Supes while he was talking with Hal. It's a lot easier to knock somone down when they aren't expecting an attack.
Originally posted by zeel
superman > BA how you come up with that?hes never beat BA or even dominated him. Lat time they met ba hardly broke a sweat and supes had a torn up outfit .
No my freind
BA > supes
I go by overall showing Superman in my book is > BA
Originally posted by kgkg
did you is the > and = ? meaning they are pretty much equal. his outfit being torn? you mean his cape? When Superman was about to get serious BA didn't want to fightI go by overall showing Superman in my book is > BA
BA didn't want to fight in the first place. Supes even said that he was pissed so I would assume that he was kinda serious since he did the whole not having to pull his punches cardboard world speech. If anyone wasn't serious it was BA since he wasn't interested in fighting.
Originally posted by jrodslamYou can disagree all you want but the writers have been clear about this. He has a magical weakness and some writers tend to hold true to this more than others.
Like i said in my post. Everyone is weak towards magic unless they are a) immune to it or b) prep to be immune/resistant to it.Most magic, wouldnt hurt Supes any more than it would someone else. A spell is a spell. A magical blast, is a magical blast.
Originally posted by carver9Magic can hurt anyone,but Superman has a weakness against it in general.
Oh; thanks for the info but I just seen it different. Juggernaut is about as durable as you can get but magic burned all the flesh off of his bones. Destroyer is also nigh invulnerable but has been injured by magic.
Originally posted by fangirl101Team 2 for the win.
No you know what is childish. Putting down every new god. giving thanos the win even when he can't win. saying stuff like he crushes her IMO. with no proof. Ignoring on panel proof.NOW that is childish.
Superman's magic weakness was redefined during Busiek's run. The fact that magic is involved no longer means automatic failure for Supes. Normal people and things that have been enchanted don't hurt him, but his invulnerability cannot account for attack spells and magical blasts.
Relevance to this fight: BA regular punches won't bypass Supes' durability. They can hurt him, but just because BA is that strong. Also, Thor's hammer is not magic, Thor's hammer is Uru. Just because it has been enchanted doesn't mean it will magically hurt Superman.
Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
Superman's magic weakness was redefined during Busiek's run. The fact that magic is involved no longer means automatic failure for Supes. Normal people and things that have been enchanted don't hurt him, but his invulnerability cannot account for attack spells and magical blasts.Relevance to this fight: BA regular punches won't bypass Supes' durability. They can hurt him, but just because BA is that strong. Also, Thor's hammer is not magic, Thor's hammer is Uru. Just because it has been enchanted doesn't mean it will magically hurt Superman.
You was doing good with this post until you said that thor hammer which is filled with magic wont hurt superman.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Like i said in my post. Everyone is weak towards magic unless they are a) immune to it or b) prep to be immune/resistant to it.Most magic, wouldnt hurt Supes any more than it would someone else. A spell is a spell. A magical blast, is a magical blast.
I don't know why people come off thinking that post C Supes has a specific weakness to magic. Hell magical characters like Wonder Woman get hurt by demonic hell fire and the like. He is no more weak against magic than Hulk or even Thor are. Thor has Mjlonir to protect him, WW has the bracelets. People like Black Adam don't have an immunity either.
Originally posted by carver9
You was doing good with this post until you said that thor hammer which is filled with magic wont hurt superman.
Yeah it will hurt Superman but not because of any specific weakness to magic. If it is enchanted to be unbreakable or heavier than it looks or swing fast, it'll hurt Superman because the physical factors that the enchantment creates, not because it is simply made using magic.
I wish people actually understood this. That's why Superman was able to catch Mjlonir in the crossover the magic enchantments themselves aren't going to physically affect Superman in a unique way.
Not even if Thor charged the hammer with lightning. The lightning will hurt Superman in a physical way but it is not beyond resisting.
The thing that can screw Post C Supes directly with no hope of resistance is chaos/pure magic the kind that actually warps reality or is not affected in a pure physical way, that kind of magic can screw anyone not just Supes.
Originally posted by Eel O'BrienHis hammer would hurt him regardless. Team 2 for the win.
Superman's magic weakness was redefined during Busiek's run. The fact that magic is involved no longer means automatic failure for Supes. Normal people and things that have been enchanted don't hurt him, but his invulnerability cannot account for attack spells and magical blasts.Relevance to this fight: BA regular punches won't bypass Supes' durability. They can hurt him, but just because BA is that strong. Also, Thor's hammer is not magic, Thor's hammer is Uru. Just because it has been enchanted doesn't mean it will magically hurt Superman.