Thor Vs. Sentry

Started by Knowsbleed3323 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
What did you say about absence of proof in the other thread? Seems you are arguing based on feats here while ignoring that kind of argument in the other thread. Pretty convenient. I have stated my case over and over. glads looked to be superior to Thor without his hammer if you ask me. Sentry is more powerful than Glads imo as well and is physically stronger as well.

Yeah and I also never once said he was more powerful than either. I was arguing against your baseless comments.

You don't just say you believe Sentry is Thor's physical superior, you say you know he is.

I say: based on what?

Originally posted by jalek moye
no more hulk comics for me till leob gets fired
I felt the same way about heroes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The wrecker beat Thor. Juggs has beaten Thor. Hulk has hung with Thor and beaten him without his hammer. Glads hung with Thor.

Sentry took on the Collective,was dismantling Ultron when he got pissed,took on Genis-vell while holding back,easily took on the inhumans,ww Hulk,overloaded the absorbing man,etc.

Sentry has him in physicality.

As I recall, the only time Wrecker beat Thor was when Thor was weakened in strength, and in durability. Otherwise, Thor has ran right through the entire Wrecking Crew no problem in more recent times.
Juggs has only beaten Thor when Thor was under a dizzy spell. Thor came back and BFR'ed Juggy. Unless you're talking about 8th day... because well, that's incredibly different.
And was losing another time in h2h, and stalemated in strength for an hour another time. Although I'd like to see Sentry take on an incredibly determined Hulk without energy attacks.
Only to get beaten every time except when he surprised him by knocking Mjolnir away.

Sentry took on the Collective yes, but so did Iron Man...
We don't have a gauge of how strong that Ultron was.
Photon was also holding back...
He took on the Inhumans minus BB. Not very impressive.
WW Hulk is his best feat, and he was also going all out, so that's his absolute limit.
While overloading the Absorbing Man is impressive, it's not like Thor has ever attempted so. I mean, syllables from BB, a planet, and Quasar have done the same.

If we want to throw out high feats though...
Thor has taken on the Forth Celestial Host, and was able to damage a few, and was able to take shots and knock Arishem on his ass. Thor was able to make Thanos with at least the Power Gem take a step back from a punch. Thor was able to stalemate Zeus for months. Thor was able to knock a weakened Galactus around. He was able to take down a being with Perrikus's power, Odin's power, all the Dark God's power, and Zelia's power rolled into one.
Forgetting the times he's taken on Skyfather level beings, Odin, and such and such.

Oh, and he beat Storm, so really. 😬

Originally posted by Red Hulk
As I recall, the only time Wrecker beat Thor was when Thor was weakened in strength, and in durability. Otherwise, Thor has ran right through the entire Wrecking Crew no problem in more recent times.
Juggs has only beaten Thor when Thor was under a dizzy spell. Thor came back and BFR'ed Juggy.
And was losing another time in h2h, and stalemated in strength for an hour another time.
Only to get beaten every time except when he surprised him by knocking Mjolnir away.

8th Day Juggernaut floored him and Thor only beat him in their second fight because he sealed off his powers. Thor could not beat him while he had his full power.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
8th Day Juggernaut floored him and Thor only beat him in their second fight because he sealed off his powers. Thor could not beat him while he had his full power.
8th Day isn't regular Jugs. As well as Thor fighting that battle with only power attacks...
And he sealed off his powers, but he finished with a BFR.

Do you expect Thor to KO Juggernaut or something?

Originally posted by Red Hulk
8th Day isn't regular Jugs. As well as Thor fighting that battle with only power attacks...
And he sealed off his powers, but he finished with a BFR.

Do you expect Thor to KO Juggernaut or something?

No I'm just saying that Thor can't beat him if both fight with their full normal power. Mjolnir can not hurt him. He tried to hurt him with it but failed.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No I'm just saying that Thor can't beat him if both fight with their full normal power. Mjolnir can not hurt him. He tried to hurt him with it but failed.
So?

No one can beat Juggy physically at this level.

8th day is different how?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
8th day is different how?
His power was increased, and he was more determined than ever (something regular Juggy lacks).

His power wasn't increased.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Yeah and I also never once said he was more powerful than either. I was arguing against your baseless comments.

You don't just say you believe Sentry is Thor's physical superior, you say you know he is.

I say: based on what?

Glads and the Hulk's showings against Thor. Sentry's showing against WW Hulk,etc.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
His power wasn't increased.
In 8th day it was. get your facts straight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Glads and the Hulk's showings against Thor. Sentry's showing against WW Hulk,etc.

Sentry never beat any Hulk.

Fail.

In 8th day it was. get your facts straight.[/B]

It was not. Get yours straight.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
As I recall, the only time Wrecker beat Thor was when Thor was weakened in strength, and in durability.

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Originally posted by Red Hulk
As I recall, the only time Wrecker beat Thor was when Thor was weakened in strength, and in durability. Otherwise, Thor has ran right through the entire Wrecking Crew no problem in more recent times.
Juggs has only beaten Thor when Thor was under a dizzy spell. Thor came back and BFR'ed Juggy. Unless you're talking about 8th day... because well, that's incredibly different.
And was losing another time in h2h, and stalemated in strength for an hour another time. Although I'd like to see Sentry take on an incredibly determined Hulk without energy attacks.
Only to get beaten every time except when he surprised him by knocking Mjolnir away.

Sentry took on the Collective yes, but so did Iron Man...
We don't have a gauge of how strong that Ultron was.
Photon was also holding back...
He took on the Inhumans minus BB. Not very impressive.
WW Hulk is his best feat, and he was also going all out, so that's his absolute limit.
While overloading the Absorbing Man is impressive, it's not like Thor has ever attempted so. I mean, syllables from BB, a planet, and Quasar have done the same.

If we want to throw out high feats though...
Thor has taken on the Forth Celestial Host, and was able to damage a few, and was able to take shots and knock Arishem on his ass. Thor was able to make Thanos with at least the Power Gem take a step back from a punch. Thor was able to stalemate Zeus for months. Thor was able to knock a weakened Galactus around. He was able to take down a being with Perrikus's power, Odin's power, all the Dark God's power, and Zelia's power rolled into one.
Forgetting the times he's taken on Skyfather level beings, Odin, and such and such.

Oh, and he beat Storm, so really. 😬

How and why was thor weakened?

So,you dlike to see the Sentry take on an incredibly focused WW Hulk without using his energy attacks? Why? He engaged the WW Hulk head on. Why cant he use energy attacks. He still went blow for blow without dodging anything WW Hulk threw his way.

Yes,Glads knocked his hammer away. Thor also blasted his ass while they saved the people. Immediately afterwards he cheapshotted him. Thor won but lets not act like he dominated. It was very close and Thor had help in getting his hammer back to by the way.

Iron Man didnt physically engage the Collective like the Sentry did. Ultron seemed pretty powerful to me and Sentry tore into her when she pissed him off.

If the inhumans thing was it you might have something,but he still took the lot of them on minus BB which is still pretty neat.

Photon is no small potatoes and soon as Sentry meant business he was bfr'd away. Thor really did nothing significant to the 4th celestial host.

Thor had the power gem when he took on Thanos, so why bring up a feat when he had a huge amp?

Thor also was a nonfactor against Galactus in his own series with oodles of help. Galactus was on crack in that run and Thor was a nonfactor.

Sentry lost control when taking on WW Hulk and burned himself out. I dont think thats too shabby considering the initial beatdown Rulk gave Thor. At least Sentry burned out WW Hulk while Rulk beat the snot out of Thor in their initial encounter. Which is worse?
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Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Sentry never beat any Hulk.

Fail.

It was not. Get yours straight.

He burned out the most powerful version of the Hulk yet to date.

Should I put a scan up showing your ignorance with regards to your favorite character.

Put up a scan that says definitively he was amped. Not the one where he's saying "Something is making me this way" or "For the first time I really feel like I can cut loose"

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
His power wasn't increased.
F*ck it, I can't find the scans.

But I swear both Thor and Juggy said his power felt increased.

Enjoy.

God are you slow. I said show a scan where it says definetively.

All that one says is "Sumthin's making me this way, sumthin's drawin' me some where." He's talking about the force that's drawing him to where it is. No where does it say he was amped.

Pause for a moment while I pull up the scans to that entire fight.

The entire fight.