Rookie 9

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Originally posted by Terryc250
But there's no evidence that Sasuke couldn't have done it. By the words of Kyuubi, he says that Naruto goes Kyuubi mode by Kyuubi lending Naruto his [b]power , and he also says Unbelievable, you can even supress my power. Going by word logic, Sasuke can supress the link in which Naruto goes Kyuubi.

Of all the hundreds of times Naruto got caught in genjutsu, he's never had a deal with Kyuubi to break free out of it, everytime Itachi catches him, and he knows he's in genjutsu, he doesn't know what to do and just fails. Killer Bee has basically complete control over his Bijuu, Naruto doesn't. [/B]

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Originally posted by Terryc250
Not really, Sasuke's current sharingan is the same form as Madara's, Madara is just more skilled with it.

tomoes>mangekyou>mutiple sharingan , both of them are at the multiple sharingan state, as both of their brothers gave them their sharingan

No it's not, otherwise, Sasuke would not be slowly going blind, IIRC, he is.

Still EMS is not needed to control Kyuubi. Just MS. And if Sasuke was able to surpress Kyuubi power with just 3 tomoe. Somehting that as said to be possible,. Hed should be able to control it now.

Originally posted by Terryc250
But there's no evidence that Sasuke couldn't have done it. By the words of Kyuubi, he says that Naruto goes Kyuubi mode by Kyuubi lending Naruto his [b]power , and he also says Unbelievable, you can even supress my power. Going by word logic, Sasuke can supress the link in which Naruto goes Kyuubi.

Of all the hundreds of times Naruto got caught in genjutsu, he's never had a deal with Kyuubi to break free out of it, everytime Itachi catches him, and he knows he's in genjutsu, he doesn't know what to do and just fails. Killer Bee has basically complete control over his Bijuu, Naruto doesn't[/B]

People seem to forget that Kyuubi was busy begging to be let out anyway which gave Sasuke the time to even attempt to go into Naruto's head, and he came in when Naruto was already about to supress it anyway. Naruto usually just lets him out and becomes tails nearly instantly. Sasuke wouldn't get that chance if Naruto was actually fighting him and not worrying about using Kyuubi. There is a big difference in doing something in battle and doing something against a guy that doesn't want to fight you and against something that's not really even out in the first place and is trying to get out.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Still EMS is not needed to control Kyuubi. Just MS. And if Sasuke was able to surpress Kyuubi power with just 3 tomoe. Somehting that as said to be possible,. Hed should be able to control it now.
Except Sasuke isn't as powerful as Madara. So why should we think he can control it?

Originally posted by Csdabest
Still EMS is not needed to control Kyuubi.
Prove it, only time the full power of the Kyuubi was controlled was with EMS.

And then we have the fact that Madara is much more powerful than Sasuke.

Originally posted by Terryc250
But there's no evidence that Sasuke couldn't have done it.

Besides the fact that he failed to keep Kirabi from doing it?

By the words of Kyuubi, he says that Naruto goes Kyuubi mode by Kyuubi lending Naruto his [b]power , and he also says Unbelievable, you can even supress my power. Going by word logic, Sasuke can supress the link in which Naruto goes Kyuubi.

A) There is no such thing as "word" logic.

B) Going by ""context", which does exist, Naruto was already trying to suppress it himself. "There's no evidence to think Sawsgay could do it if Naruto wasn't resisting.

Not really, Sasuke's current sharingan is the same form as Madara's, Madara is just more skilled with it.

We don't know that. You know how Kishi is, I wouldn't be surprised if he brought our some new bullshit. But that's irrellevent, we've never seen Madar fight seriously, so we have no idea what his range of powers are.

wow. your rejecting information from BOTH MANGA AND DATABOOK. Just stop your wrong. Kyuubi specifically said that SASUKE supressed his power. Not Naruto. Naruto was just refusing to use that power. and The databook then goes on to confirm that Sasuke's sharingan awakened that cursed power to even supress the power of a bijuu. Kyuubi=Bijuu. Then it goes on to state that sasuke showed a portion of that power when he surpressed kyuubi and tgamed and controlled manda against its very own will.

Originally posted by Csdabest
[B]Kyuubi specifically said that SASUKE supressed his power. Not Naruto.

Context.

The databook then goes on to confirm that Sasuke's sharingan awakened that cursed power to even supress the power of a bijuu. Kyuubi=Bijuu. Then it goes on to state that sasuke showed a portion of that power when he surpressed kyuubi and tgamed and controlled manda against its very own will.

Link me to the databook.

Originally posted by Csdabest
wow. your rejecting information from BOTH MANGA AND DATABOOK. Just stop your wrong. Kyuubi specifically said that SASUKE supressed his power. Not Naruto. Naruto was just refusing to use that power. and The databook then goes on to confirm that Sasuke's sharingan awakened that cursed power to even supress the power of a bijuu. Kyuubi=Bijuu. Then it goes on to state that sasuke showed a portion of that power when he surpressed kyuubi and tgamed and controlled manda against its very own will.
How does putting genjutsu on Manda = supressing demons inside people?

Originally posted by Csdabest
wow. your rejecting information from BOTH MANGA AND DATABOOK. Just stop your wrong. Kyuubi specifically said that SASUKE supressed his power. Not Naruto. Naruto was just refusing to use that power. and The databook then goes on to confirm that Sasuke's sharingan awakened that cursed power to even supress the power of a bijuu. Kyuubi=Bijuu. Then it goes on to state that sasuke showed a portion of that power when he surpressed kyuubi and tgamed and controlled manda against its very own will.
If he can supress any Biju, why did he not use it against Kirabi?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
If he can supress any Biju, why did he not use it against Kirabi?

Word^

And besides, Naruto could even unleash the Kyuubi chakra after Neji used his gentle fist to close off all of his chakra points.

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Originally posted by Kento
Hinata is more powerful. She's just scared of fighting. Plus deadlier fighting style, and bloodline limit makes me think she's stronger.

Chouji is stronger while Kiba is faster and has a partner. Both are pretty useless in a fight because they are weak though at least Chouji won his fight against a Sound 4 memeber.

No she isn't. Sakura can heal any of the attacks that Hinata connects, and Sakura would punch her to death. Bloodline limit doesn't make her stronger.

Choji has strength, but Kiba's speed would beat Choji badly. Just because Choji won his fight against the Sound 4 doesn't make him stronger. Kiba was fighting the best of the 4, and choji fought the weakest. Big difference.

Originally posted by Kento
How does putting genjutsu on Manda = supressing demons inside people?

It was speculated by Suigetsu that it was genjutsu.

The databook states Sasuke controlled Manda. And Manda even confirms he was controlled.

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39196

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[Eye power]
The main reason why the "Sharingan" was feared by everyone, including the inhabitants of the village, is the power hidden in those eyes, able to subdue even "bijuu". Sasuke, who is rapidly mastering his skills as an Uchiha, is also gradually awakening to that cursed power.

(balloons: "Those eyes... How did you dare... control me... with those eyes...!"😉
The ultimate power of the "Sharingan", that once could tame even the "Kyuubi". A portion of it is visible in Sasuke when he is able to control Manda.

(balloons: "Now I can see it... So this was your mysterious power...."😉
Sasuke's eye power is even able to seize the Kyuubi that dwells in Naruto's body!! Looking at that ominous strength, the Kyuubi is reminded of Madara Uchiha...

1. To conquer and subjugate; vanquish. See Synonyms at defeat.
2. To quiet or bring under control by physical force or persuasion; make tractable.
3. To make less intense or prominent; tone down: subdued my excitement about the upcoming holiday.
4. To bring (land) under cultivation: Farmers subdued the arid lands of Australia.

subdue
Verb
[-duing, -dued]
1. to overcome and bring (a person or people) under control by persuasion or force
2. to make (feelings, colour, or lighting) less intense [Latin subducere to remove]

seize (sz)
v. seized, seiz·ing, seiz·es
v.tr.
1. To grasp suddenly and forcibly; take or grab: seize a sword.
2.
a. To grasp with the mind; apprehend: seize an idea and develop it to the fullest extent.
b. To possess oneself of (something): seize an opportunity.
3.
a. To have a sudden overwhelming effect on: a heinous crime that seized the minds and emotions of the populace.
b. To overwhelm physically: a person who was seized with a terminal disease.
4. To take into custody; capture.
5. To take quick and forcible possession of; confiscate: seize a cache of illegal drugs.
6. also seise (sz)
a. To put (one) into possession of something.
b. To vest ownership of a feudal property in.
7. Nautical To bind (a rope) to another, or to a spar, with turns of small line.
v.intr.
1. To lay sudden or forcible hold of.
2.
a. To cohere or fuse with another part as a result of high pressure or temperature and restrict or prevent further motion or flow.
b. To come to a halt: The talks seized up and were rescheduled.
3. To exhibit symptoms of seizure activity, usually with convulsions.

seize
Verb
[seizing, seized]
1. to take hold of forcibly or quickly; grab
2. to take immediate advantage of: real journalists would have seized the opportunity
3. to take legal possession of
4. (sometimes foll. by on, upon)to understand quickly: she immediately seized his idea
5. to affect or fill the mind of suddenly: a wild frenzy seized her
6. to take by force or capture: the rebels seized a tank factory
7. (often foll. by up)(of mechanical parts) to become jammed through overheating [Old French saisir]

Now my reasoning not the official reason why for Sasuke not taming Kirabi. is either

A) He didnt try.
B) Kirabi had full control over hachibi
C) He didnt try because Kirabi was problem in himself. He was greatly skilled and had a injured sasuke's back against the wall and didnt give him a chance to.

When Sasuke supressed or seized Kyuubi's power within naruto. Naruto was already out of comission from Chidori Negashi and couldn't move. So it was safe to take the time to subdue kyuubi's power. Sasuke didn't really have that chance. And remember these comments for Bijuu. Bijuu w/ a host a jinchuuriki most likely work differently but is still capable of subdoing the power as Sasuke did. Just if the Jin is skilled and dangerous and active taking hold of the bijuu power isn't really recommended.

Actual Pages. Want me to post the raw as well.

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Sorry for the multiple posting. But the character cap is not allowing me to post the full thing

I'd definately agree more with the Official Databook then you.

You guys must keep in mind that:

a) Kirabi has mastered his 8-tails bijuu and can basically use it at its full potential, transforming into the bijuu at will.

b) Sasuke isn't a master of the Sharingan yet, and cannot use it at its full potential yet, whereas Madara/Itachi could probably make any full-powered Bijuu their b*tch

c) Naruto cannot use his bijuu at all, and can only borrow some of his power.

Kirabi's mastery over his Bijuu > Sasuke's current mastery over his Sharingan.

Sasuke's current mastery over Sharingan > Naruto's current mastery over his Bijuu

Sasuke can supress Naruto's Bijuu power (as it was shown and stated).

And I'm pretty sure Kishi won't ever let Naruto master his Bijuu, but just let him have kyuubi's monstrous chakra, i'm anticipating a fight by skills between Naruto(after training) and Sasuke, not Sasuke vs Kyuubi.

No it's not, otherwise, Sasuke would not be slowly going blind, IIRC, he is.

Sasuke is going blind?

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Originally posted by Wil7
No she isn't. Sakura can heal any of the attacks that Hinata connects, and Sakura would punch her to death. Bloodline limit doesn't make her stronger.

Choji has strength, but Kiba's speed would beat Choji badly. Just because Choji won his fight against the Sound 4 doesn't make him stronger. Kiba was fighting the best of the 4, and choji fought the weakest. Big difference.

Sakura doesn't have Tsunade's heal anything jutsu..She can't heal herself from dying which Hyuuga Style can do if they are serious. And Sakura having super strength and chakra control doesn't make her more powerful.

Kiba and Chouji are still pretty much even. What one lacks the other has.

@Csdabest - Genjutsu can control somebody. Itachi did it with a girl.

Sakura has improved a ton since the timeskip, she was trained by Tsunade afterall, Hinata can take Sakura out in a couple hits yes, but Sakura can take Hinata out in a single hit. Sakura has a much better fighting spirit, speed, power, and is overall a better fighter.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sakura has improved a ton since the timeskip, she was trained by Tsunade afterall, Hinata can take Sakura out in a couple hits yes, but Sakura can take Hinata out in a single hit. Sakura has a much better fighting spirit, speed, power, and is overall a better fighter.
I wouldn't say speed. And I'm sure any Hyuuga could one-shot a person even Hinata by destroying the heart if they got serious. Sakura has the will to fight sure but if Hinata ever actually got over her fear of fighting I think she'd be a weaker Neji which makes me think she'd be better than Sakura. After all the Hyuuga style > any other fighting style.

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Originally posted by Kento
Sakura doesn't have Tsunade's heal anything jutsu..She can't heal herself from dying which Hyuuga Style can do if they are serious. And Sakura having super strength and chakra control doesn't make her more powerful.

Kiba and Chouji are still pretty much even. What one lacks the other has.

@Csdabest - Genjutsu can control somebody. Itachi did it with a girl.

Yeah aswell as Zabuza by kakashi. Via Hypnosis. How Manda was done was simply stated to be controlled and Suigetsu assumed it was genjutsu. So from his pov it was speculation. Manda said he was controlled. And the DB said Sasuke sharingan showed portion of the Bijuu subdueing power by controlling Manda. The true answer will be revealed when the story goes in dept with how Sharingan controls and subues bijuus