Padme's Death

Started by Ushgarak5 pages

Needing to know isn't subjective, only WANTING to know is. NEED to know things are things vital to the plot and that is irrespective of opinion. Padme's death is not actually ESSENTIAL to the plot in the same way Anakin's fall or the creation of the Empire is.

And as I have said before (and I suspect you have not read the thread that covers all this like I have politely asked people to several times), I DO want to know how she dies, but what I want is not pertinent to this argument, which is not whether we want her to, but whether she actually will. In the world of desire vs. practicality, practicality wins. We have evidence that suggests she cannot die in the film and until that is refuted no amount of wanting will convince me any different.

What evidence? You mean what Leia said about her mother dying when she was very young? It's possible that the woman she remembers as her mother wasn't her real mother at all, but someone she was placed in the care of. A scene was filmed for Episode III during the filming of AOTC in which Obi-Wan is seen carrying a baby on Tatooine. The baby, most likely, is Luke. If Obi-Wan is carrying Luke to the Lars family in Episode III then Leia will probably be taken to Alderran as well. If Luke is a baby when he is hidden from Anakin, and he and Leia are twins, then she must be a baby also. I don't think an infant would be capable of remembering its birth mother if they were seperated. Thus, unless Padme hides on Alderran with her daughter, the woman Leia remembers as her mother cannot be Padme. If this is the case, which I'm not saying it will be, but if it is, it is highly possible that Padme WILL die in Episode III. What single event could cause a turn to the dark side quicker than Anakin losing the woman he loves?

It is specified CLEARLY in ROTJ that Leia is talking about her real mother and is is extraordinarily speculative to say that was someone else when this is clearly meant to be a piece of information give to the audience.

And I do not know what made you think the AOTC scene was Obi-Wan carrying the baby when Ewan McGregor was NOT in Tatooine for that shot. You are confusing rumour with fact.

And you are otherwise proving our point for us. In ROTJ Leia is talking about her REAL mother, as a baby she could not remember her, therefore she cannot die in ep.iii, and again if you had bothered to read the previous thread where this has all been gone through already you would know that is is very old ground.

Again, I politely asked people to do that. If people don't have the courtesy to do that then in future I will tell them to not so politely and simply delete their posts if it goes on.

What single event could cause a turn to the dark side quicker than Anakin losing the woman he loves?
losing the woman he loves doesnt mean she dies.

Indeed. In any case, I don;t want this argument being pointlessly rehearsed in two seperate threads, so other than responding to the poll I would like them confined to the thread where these arguments already exist, please.

I'm not saying I think Padme will die, just stating that it IS possible...for whatever reason. Not everything in the original trilogy has been truthful, take Obi-Wan telling Luke that Yoda was the Jedi master who instructed him. Obi-Wan was trained by Qui-Gon, not Yoda. Anyways, I'm off to find the other thread...

Well Obi told Luke that Vader betrayed and murdered Lukes father too.
Yoda probably trained Obi Wan as a youngster and he was the only one of Obi`s former mentors that was still alive in EP IV. So from a certain point of view.............

Well, we all KNOW that is is POSSIBLE, of course! Again, this has all been said before... but our best indication is that she does not.

Meanwhile, Yoda WAS the one who first instructed Obi-Wan, as his line about Yoda at the start of TPM makes clear. And if your first assumption about Padme dying in episode III has to be that Leia was wrong or lying then can you not see that that makes it the less likely option next to that line actually being factual?

I don't think Leia was lying...I just think that Luke was the one who couldn't remember only for a specific reason...liek the memory was taken or something

this is getting weird now

I don't believe people would rather believe that Luke has had his memories stolen rather than accept the bloody simple reason for the difference in memories- that Leia spent some years with her mother.

Padme's death soon revealed it will be

ok....so who believes Padme dies before Ep IV...I hope everyone seeing that Leia said she died when she was very young....so how are we definint "very young"....2,3,4....etc?????

oh i think we know she dies before ep IV, Leia might be around 4-5 years

that's kindergarten age.....I'd think that it would be slightly or even a few years before that....who knows.....we'll find out in a few years .....it's nice to sepeculate though

Padme will die in Ep3. Leaving her alive at the end makes NO SENSE. The only way that could work is if she was dying in Ep3 and we new that she wouldn't last long after the film ended.

I'm fed up talking about this anyway. But she will die.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Uh I guess that's one way to put it...but I didn't ask for a discussion...just a simple yes or no....not that simple is it....*sigh* such is life...
We've been through this exercise before.

ok Julie, NO SHE WILL NOT DIE in EP III

say it aint so....well that would be nice...but I still think she does die so my answer is YES
....and the cycle continues...
but those who are of the opinion that Padme does meet a premature end in EpIII still outnumeber you so there:-)