Ultimatum

So, now that Ultimatum is upon the Ultimate Universe, what's going on?

Anyone who hasn't read the issue/s will probable see spoilers, so be warned.

Spoiler:
Magneto does something to **** with the planet, in what Xavier calls his "Doomsday Plan" to murder six billion men, women and children. He floods New York City, very 'Day After Tomorrow'ly, and potentially kills three X-Men, Johnny Storm and his father, and succeeds in killing millions of citizens. Sue Storm also appears to be on the brink of dying after using a massive forcefield to push the water out of tthe city and back into the ocean. Latveria, we see, is frozen over with many citizens surrounding the castle appearing to have frozen to death. Xavier tries to band the troops together telepathically, calling the Fantastic Four, Ultimates and his X-Men, but Magneto is clearly able to eavesdrop on the telepathic communique. The preview for next issue just says: It Gets Worse.

So why'd he do it? was it because

Spoiler:
Wanda got killed? Is that all?

Spoiler:
Rick Jones

I for one Im happy for this storyline. Magneto havent had a time to shine in years. I wouldve rather be on 616 M.U but Ill take what I get. As for the reason, It was because of the recent events in the Ultimates, Wanda's murder.

is this the older one starring matt damon? mmm

good so far...uber mags is back

my guess is that this doomsday scenario is the one thing he tried and failed at before...that is reversing the Earth's magnetic poles...though i would have more expected flash freezing than flash flooding also, he could have pulled a a Doctor move and held as mmmmmmmouch as new york in place as possible and let the earth still spin on its orbit

*realizes Loeb's writing it*

*lowers expectations*

Hell, it's a decent read once you kinda realize it's not going to be anything special. Nothing like a massive crossover to give someone a couple uber feats for the fanboys to drool over. And it's almost refreshing to know the villain in issue #1. Drawn-out melodramatic "reveals" 3/4 of the way into an arc are overdone. I hope there's no twists, and Mags is actually the one behind it.

Originally posted by manjaro
my guess is that this doomsday scenario is the one thing he tried and failed at before...that is reversing the Earth's magnetic poles...though i would have more expected flash freezing than flash flooding also, he could have pulled a a Doctor move and held as mmmmmmmouch as new york in place as possible and let the earth still spin on its orbit

Maybe they borrowed him from Wildstorm to be a super-villain. I'd cream.

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issue two good also

I kinda chuckled at issue 2.

Also. I realized again, as I do occasionally, how much PIS is actually involved in comic universes where they deal with such insane power levels. Reed Richards can alter reality on a galactic scale with the cosmic cube that he built. He didn't find it. He built it. I'm not even sure 616 Reed can come close to that. Anyway, there's no reason in the world he shouldn't just make another one and undo everything Magneto did.

Blob/Wasp scene=

Originally posted by Scoobless

So like a Watchmen, Marvel universe .... Interesting

I think its a shame how crap the Ultimate universe is. IMO, i would let Ellis run riot with it like he was supposed to do with New Universal. I mean a few years ago Mark Millar was basically writing it in its entirety, why not let Ellis do the same. He'd be perfect; sci-fi escapism, uber badass dialogue and most importantly of all; never having to meet a deadline.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Blob/Wasp scene=

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Ultimatum is as bad if not worse than Ultimates vol 3. Why had Loeb been allowed to continue writing comics? Someone should tell him that this story sucks. It's a strong departure from the vibe of any Ultimates book. The dialogue is soooo poor, especially the first issue. There is not one introduction from any character who appears in the first issue that isn't cheesy or contrived. They either introduce themselves by saying something obvious about their character traits or they tell us about their history (Iron-man introduces himself by muttering about his alcoholism and We are reminded that Hank Pym is a wife beater in the first respective panels for each of these characters) The whole thing smacks of Loeb going "I've got a great idea, a big wave kills loadsa people that will be really shocking!! Yeah and Mags did it....wait.....what? Whadda you mean character moments??? Well Ok......anyway the big wave kills...Umm..."

Sorry for the rant but I loved Millar's Ultimates and it pains me to see Loeb ripping them (what I hope isn't) beyond repair

Ultimate U still has good titles. For a while there it was pwning the hell outa 616 in terms of cohesiveness of the universe and many quality titles. FF and S-M are still entertaining, and this from someone who normally cares nothing about the former of those.

But people decided that it was going to sh*t as soon as Loeb took over Ultimates. Granted, that title took a dive, and Ultimatum might kidney punch the entire universe, but one writer can't wreck multiple titles, especially when he doesn't work on them all.

Once this is over we might have a decent universe.

Simply b/c Loeb might stop writing Ultimate titles.

and Millar's back and Bendis still gets to do USM.

Yeah, Bendis has made some questionable decisions with stories and characters, but he does an incredible job with Spidey. The character just seems to fit well for him.

It's trash.

I don't get the whole Blob eating Wanda scene?

I guess I'm in the solid minority, but I'm liking 'Ultimatum' so far.

Despite what I've heard people say, it's far more than a tidal wave which is wreaking havoc across the world. Magneto's shifting of the magnetic poles is causing global devastation in many different forms [be it, tidal waves, flash freezing, volcanoes, etc]... To me, it's refreshing to see these type of things [ie. 'natural' disasters] destroying Marvel earth this time, instead of some random invasion/war.

Granted, the dialogue may not be the best I've read - but all in all I find this to ba an enjoyable read. It's taken Ult. Magneto out of the shadows, and reintroduced him as the major powerhouse he really is. It also displayed his "I'm prepared to do anything to win" attitude, when he killed Xavier via neck-snap. And I think the final battle between Mags and the remainder of the 'Ultimate' heroes has the potential to be quite good as well...

I dunno, I'd recommend it overall. kinda

Originally posted by Child Rebel
It's trash.

I don't get the whole Blob eating Wanda scene?

I didnt get that at all. Shock value maybe.

Anybody else thinks Professor X is NOT dead? Im thinking the whole thing happen in Magneto's head. Like Professor X did to Juggernaut in the latest Xmen Legacy.

Originally posted by Digi
Yeah, Bendis has made some questionable decisions with stories and characters, but he does an incredible job with Spidey. The character just seems to fit well for him.

Yeah Ultimate Spider-man is the best Ultimate title out there at the moment.....

....That is probably until Millar returns for Ultimates (fingers crossed for next year) with an artist he's never worked with before apparently ✅

Originally posted by willRules
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Ultimatum is as bad if not worse than Ultimates vol 3. Why had Loeb been allowed to continue writing comics? Someone should tell him that this story sucks. It's a strong departure from the vibe of any Ultimates book. The dialogue is soooo poor, especially the first issue. There is not one introduction from any character who appears in the first issue that isn't cheesy or contrived. They either introduce themselves by saying something obvious about their character traits or they tell us about their history (Iron-man introduces himself by muttering about his alcoholism and We are reminded that Hank Pym is a wife beater in the first respective panels for each of these characters) The whole thing smacks of Loeb going "I've got a great idea, a big wave kills loadsa people that will be really shocking!! Yeah and Mags did it....wait.....what? Whadda you mean character moments??? Well Ok......anyway the big wave kills...Umm..."

Sorry for the rant but I loved Millar's Ultimates and it pains me to see Loeb ripping them (what I hope isn't) beyond repair

Loebs just from an Older generation of comic book writers. He's really just stuck in his 90's ways. I get the same vibes from Kurt Brusiek. In a way it make me appreciate how much more sophisticated the medium has got. It also allows me to appreciate the work of some of the more criticised writers, such as Bendis and Miller. So true though.