Itachi and Zabuza vs Deidara and Tsunade

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Originally posted by Kento
Taunting was what he was doing when he got punched, and when he said that such an attack won't stop him. There is a difference between a threat and a taunt. He wouldn't have had to run at her if he was just going to cut himself. He would have did just what he did when help arrived. Staid still and let her come to him. Besides who actually looked the more skilled in fighting in that battle? The one who was able to dodge, and counter or the one who just smashed everything in the way with linear attacks?

Threats are meaningless, like someone saying they'll erase existance, it means nothing, him saying he'll kill her is nonsense. The only thing we get out of it is that he's going to be using blood. How would he do what he did when he arrived? First of all Tsunade isn't underestimating him anymore, second of all, he got hit by Tsunade and doesn't have complete control over his body. The fight was like a minute, and most of it was talking, like i said she underestimated him, and that how he got the hits in, and she retaliated with a hit herself, in the end who had the upper hand? Tsunade did.


How about we just agree to disagree on this. Because I had a whole thing written out but it'll just keep going back in circles. There isn't any proof for or against Jounin knowing more than two ninjutsu. Sure they can but being able to do something doesn't always mean they do. [/B]

It's basically like saying there's no proof the 4th Hokage has any other moves besides body flicker, and rasengan. Yes there's no proof but he most likely has alot more jutsus then just those, if we take into account of his title, and that he was known as a great ninja, etc.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Threats are meaningless, like someone saying they'll erase existance, it means nothing, him saying he'll kill her is nonsense. The only thing we get out of it is that he's going to be using blood. How would he do what he did when he arrived? First of all Tsunade isn't underestimating him anymore, second of all, he got hit by Tsunade and doesn't have complete control over his body. The fight was like a minute, and most of it was talking, like i said she underestimated him, and that how he got the hits in, and she retaliated with a hit herself, in the end who had the upper hand? Tsunade did.

It's basically like saying there's no proof the 4th Hokage has any other moves besides body flicker, and rasengan. Yes there's no proof but he most likely has alot more jutsus then just those, if we take into account of his title, and that he was known as a great ninja, etc.

There isn't any proof she was holding back at all when she was fighting Kabuto, and was still avoided because he amped his speed a little. He was able to hit her with them both facing each other, and both ready to fight. Her only hit was because he assumed the fight was over, and wasn't paying attention because he underestimated her healing ability. If he hadn't of been gloating with his eyes closed she'd have never hit him. And what does it matter he had figured out 80%. He was charging at her with a kunai. What in the world makes you think he was going to run up and cut himself? He turns around, charges at her, kunai out, threatning to slice her up. So how does any of that say he's going to cut himself? Everything he does, and says up until Jiraiya and them arrive points to him slicing her up.

Except we know Yondy created those three, and had to become Jounin by having elemental jutsu which none of those are. So of course he knows others. But what does that have to do with somebody only knowing two elements but probably a lot of jutsu from just two elements? Just because it's possible to learn more than two elements doesn't mean every single Jounin or even a majority of Jounin know more than two elements as they die young, and they get the most missions, and the strongest missions which doesn't give them time to learn more. Then there is the fact that over half the ninja we see aren't even Jounin.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Yeah, and maybe she can fire a supa megapowaful laza from her diamond forehead!!!

Fact is, Jiraiya and Oro upstaged her in the fight, and they were both weakened. Lulz.

The people who said zabuza will wipe out tsunade is wrong. tsunade could beat orochimaru and if orochimaru could beat zabuza tsunade could deffinatly beat him. also kakashi had beaten zabuza do the math. she was still able to beat oro after she lost most of her chakra fighting kabuto and both of them ran from her so tsunade will win

tsunade could beat zabuza if orochimaru could beat zabuza and tsunade could beat orochimaru wich she did after she lost most of her chakra fighting kabuto then she will win in a heart beat also kakashi beaten zabuza do the math

Originally posted by lilretro
The people who said zabuza will wipe out tsunade is wrong. tsunade could beat orochimaru and if orochimaru could beat zabuza tsunade could deffinatly beat him. also kakashi had beaten zabuza do the math. she was still able to beat oro after she lost most of her chakra fighting kabuto and both of them ran from her so tsunade will win
Oro was weakened, and all she did was catch his tounge, when he couldn't use jutsu, and then punch him. Even before her phobia was exploited Kabuto was beating her. Zabuza could do it also.

me thinks itachi can solo the other 3...

i think tsunade could beat z.
but it wouldnt matter because itachi could easily defeat her as well as deidara.

team 2 is underestimated.

deidara just has to go airborne and spam bombs to confuse team 1, leaving tsunade to summon katsuyu.

deidara laready has a stratagy to take on itachi, he even displayed some of it on sasuke, if he's airborne and moving quickly, only amatarasu can take him down. if itachi tries that, tsunade and the slug can take advantage of his reduced eyesite.

zabuza imo can't hang with either of team 2: tsunade would take the sword from him mid swing, or just shitstomp him flat out. (she went up against hanzo and his personal mist nin, zabuza is outclassed).

deidara would rape zabuza....

Tsunade was beaten by Hanzo with Orochimaru and Jiraiya's help. 😐

Originally posted by psycho gundam
team 2 is underestimated.

deidara just has to go airborne and spam bombs to confuse team 1, leaving tsunade to summon katsuyu.

deidara laready has a stratagy to take on itachi, he even displayed some of it on sasuke, if he's airborne and moving quickly, only amatarasu can take him down. if itachi tries that, tsunade and the slug can take advantage of his reduced eyesite.

zabuza imo can't hang with either of team 2: tsunade would take the sword from him mid swing, or just shitstomp him flat out. (she went up against hanzo and his personal mist nin, zabuza is outclassed).

deidara would rape zabuza....

And Zabuza can use mist to confuse team 2 just as well. And Zabuza is a master at moving through the mist. So Deidara wouldn't know where Tsunade is to blow anything up so he'd either have to take care not to blow up his partner or just go crazy and not care. Either way it's not going to be good.

Deidara has a strategy to take on the regular sharingan, he's toast against Mangekyou sharingan.

She went up against Hanzou with the help of Oro, and Jiraiya, and we don't even know what she did or how well she did compared to the other two. And they were all three stomped without so much as a chance of winning. And a mist jutsu would solve any problems that Tsunade may cause if you think she can. She can't fight without being able to see.

Yes, Deidara beats Zabuza but Itachi can easily just beat both Tsunade and Deidara so it doesn't matter. But Deidara wouldn't go after Zabuza anyway as he wants to defeat Itachi.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

deidara just has to go airborne and spam bombs to confuse team 1, leaving tsunade to summon katsuyu.

and katsuya wouldnt be hit by bombs being as big as she is?
theres flaw in your plan.

and he'd aim for the not so inconspicuous giant slug because...?

his bombs can fly and follow their intended target, my logic is sound.

how would she get zabuza's sword? theres nothing to grab onto but the sharp side...shes not quick enough to get the handle or opposite side

his sword has a big hole in it, and it's as broad as snowboard. she did do it to naruto's kunai with one finger (while drunk off sake)

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not saying it would be easy, but with her insane strength advantage, close taijutsu with her is asinine.

Strength advantage means nothing when Zabuza has the speed advantage, and skill advantage. Doing so to Naruto back then isn't exactly something grand.

yeah i know, but she did it with one finger against his kunai mid lunge.
and stopping his resangan with the trench soon after, again with the same finger.

and zabuza needs water close by to do suiton jutsu, he's no kisame or definitely no tobirama senju. and if he gets tired or hurt, lugging around that big ass hocho will be more difficult.

oh yeah, killer be caught and removed the hocho from it's weilder also.

Well yea, if he's not around water he's pretty much just a guy with a sword, who is still faster than Tsunade.

And Killer Bee doing something doesn't mean Tsunade can. And Suigetsu hasn't shown any skills to be on par with Zabuza. All he's shown his he can tank Killer Bee's blast because of his body.

honestly tsunade fails in the speed department...

This is spite. Itachi one-panneled Deidara, and one of Pains weakest paths nearly killed Tsunade. Itachi vaporizes them both or soloes them with finger-genjutsu.