Originally posted by TrackzEven a physical fight Creed is out of his league. Creed is like a toothless kitten compared to Dracula.
are we really arguing who would win in an all out battle? Dracula stomps. His bite has lasting effects, even if one doesn't turn into a vampire they are weakened significantly and are subject to his control, case in point Apocalypse (also Sif, but I'm not sure on that one).
Originally posted by Trackz
cause we don't know how much longer so the point is very weak, sabretooth could've been in hell maybe a couple months maybe a year, he said years as if he's been there 5 or more.
honestly why do you keep pressing this.
years means two or more. just becuase you thought they ment five does not make it so.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That is called hopes and dreams.
Originally posted by Deadline
^ What were you saying about conjecture jinzin? Double standards.
😆
The fact of the matter is that the sheer existence of Dracula and his performances leaves you two in a massive conundrum from the standpoint of logical argumentation....
And it does so because of the intimate nature of your arguments FOR Blade using Dracula as a standard.
The thing about that, is that such a viewpoint only leaves a few options to try and explain how said viewpoint has any merit in the first place.
A.) Dracula's a mystically bound character with a power level that slides considerably up and down the scale to meet the purpose of any given story leaving one hard pressed to assume which is the legitimate power level and makes it difficult to take a position with solid basis in any given argument; due to this, Marvel's credit to Dracula being physically weak strips the merit of people who only want to base the outcome of Dracs fights on his highest showings ignoring this lower half.
B.) Dracula is uber, Marvel is wrong about their estimations on his power levels, and his low showings are a result of bad writing only hence his showings with Blade have no credibility to them.
C.) Dracula is uber, Marvel is wrong about their estimations on his power levels, and his low showings are a result of bad writing only; Blade is ALSO uber so his showings against Drac hold complete merit.
D.) Dracula was a character with generally uber showings earlier in his career, but was reincarnated into a considerably weaker form after the Montesi Formula...
We know you can't choose A because you argue for his strongest showings and snoop apparently thinks he can no sell Tooth in a physical matchup.
We know it can't be B because B involves stripping Blade of one of 3 names that get tossed about in any pro-Blade ABC argument that shows up in nearly every Blade thread.
Now, you might think C is the argument of merit here... but then again, that wouldn't surprise a number of us.... in any case... it's not.
D is the only argument here where we don't have to accept that Drac's higher showings may be PIS, and we ALSO don't have to reject the idea that Blade hanging with Drac in any physical confrontation nowadays is ALSO PIS....
D is an argument that actually helps you people retain some form of credibility and goes hand in hand with Dracula's typical performance in his classic appearances vs. current.
Of course most people might be able to accept A... you won't... you didn't.... This is all you've got left.... 😐
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
yes I know that was the entire point of why it was brought up to begin with. ninja tried to down play sabre-tooth, becuase he was broken. however he failed to mention how long sabre-tooth was there and failed to mention that he was never shown how he was broken or how long it took.honestly why do you keep pressing this.
because it was blatantly wrong. you acknowledge that, so why do you keep responding about ninjaks point? telling me what he was trying to say isn't going to make the other post correct.
Originally posted by jinzin
😆The fact of the matter is that the sheer existence of Dracula and his performances leaves you two in a massive conundrum from the standpoint of logical argumentation....
And it does so because of the intimate nature of your arguments FOR Blade using Dracula as a standard.
The thing about that, is that such a viewpoint only leaves a few options to try and explain how said viewpoint has any merit in the first place.
A.) Dracula's a mystically bound character with a power level that slides considerably up and down the scale to meet the purpose of any given story leaving one hard pressed to assume which is the legitimate power level and makes it difficult to take a position with solid basis in any given argument; due to this, Marvel's credit to Dracula being physically weak strips the merit of people who only want to base the outcome of Dracs fights on his highest showings ignoring this lower half.
B.) Dracula is uber, Marvel is wrong about their estimations on his power levels, and his low showings are a result of bad writing only hence his showings with Blade have no credibility to them.
C.) Dracula is uber, Marvel is wrong about their estimations on his power levels, and his low showings are a result of bad writing only; Blade is ALSO uber so his showings against Drac hold complete merit.
D.) Dracula was a character with generally uber showings earlier in his career, but was reincarnated into a considerably weaker form after the Montesi Formula...
We know you can't choose A because you argue for his strongest showings and snoop apparently thinks he can no sell Tooth in a physical matchup.
We know it can't be B because B involves stripping Blade of one of 3 names that get tossed about in any pro-Blade ABC argument that shows up in nearly every Blade thread.
Now, you might think C is the argument of merit here... but then again, that wouldn't surprise a number of us.... in any case... it's not.
D is the only argument here where we don't have to accept that Drac's higher showings may be PIS, and we ALSO don't have to reject the idea that Blade hanging with Drac in any physical confrontation nowadays is ALSO PIS....
D is an argument that actually helps you people retain some form of credibility and goes hand in hand with Dracula's typical performance in his classic appearances vs. current.
Of course most people might be able to accept A... you won't... you didn't.... This is all you've got left.... 😐
once again it's gone off topic and you've managed to bring a debate in here that has no place, namely the blade subject.
however once again, as it's been stated many times, many of draculas powers that he uses to take out top tiers don't work on Blade even then most of the time Blade does lose to Dracula but he does manage to hold his own.
Originally posted by Trackz
once again it's gone off topic and you've managed to bring a debate in here that has no place, namely the blade subject.however once again, as it's been stated many times, many of draculas powers that he uses to take out top tiers don't work on Blade even then most of the time Blade does lose to Dracula but he does manage to hold his own.
look at snoops arguements, he saying dracula physically would dominate sabre-tooth, which completely contrdicts blade holding his own physically.
Originally posted by Trackz
because it was blatantly wrong. you acknowledge that, so why do you keep responding about ninjaks point? telling me what he was trying to say isn't going to make the other post correct.
also again how is it wrong? years can mean 2 or more. Very easily could have taken place two years ok marvel time. so "blatanly" is very strong word.
Originally posted by Deadline
Does ninjak think hes always right? Does he always downplay feats? Nope, don't give a shit.
In this thread? Certainly seems to be the case.
He's been rather insistent that winds, rain and rats are going to help defeat Sabretooth?
Where are his proofs and examples? I certainly haven't seen them.
Has he tried to downplay feats? Absolutely.... He's argued against Sabretooth's healing factor using the muramasa as his example...
Hell, he even downplayed one of Sabretooth's strength feats suggesting that the feat wasn't proof of what was suggested earlier in the..... hey wait... that was YOU!
So basically you're mad at me for doing what you yourself have done in this very thread?
Niiiiiiiiiice. 😎
Originally posted by Trackzyou may want to look back a couple of pages to see who off handedly brought this topic to Blade.
once again it's gone off topic and you've managed to bring a debate in here that has no place, namely the blade subject.however once again, as it's been stated many times, many of draculas powers that he uses to take out top tiers don't work on Blade even then most of the time Blade does lose to Dracula but he does manage to hold his own.
In any case the point of my argument isn't off topic, it's intimately related to what we're discussing.
Get over it Jinzin I'll admit the rats and weather manip won't work here cause I wasn't aware this was a voided room.
I'm a fair debater until you and the sidekick Dum Dum call me idiot. ignorant ect that's just rude.
You guys could have told me earlier than 4 hrs ago. Instead of just saying.
1. SABS WONT BE BEATEN BY RATS.
2. SABS KILLED CREATURES FROM THE DARKHOLD.
So cool Drac can remain mist and taunt Sabertooth without the threat of Sunlight until Sabs gets frustrated from lack of sleep and food long enough to get bites in.
I don't care if it takes weeks Drac will win.
Love this voided room!!!!!!!!!
Sabs can't do NOTHING to mist right.
Originally posted by jinzin
Has he tried to downplay feats? Absolutely.... He's argued against Sabretooth's healing factor using the muramasa as his example...
Hey! I remembered directly after the sword statement that it was the Muramusa sword. And posted it. Don't make shit up.
You know what Jinzin. You read what you want to read. 😒
I can't wait till you and your lapdog read and respond to the above post.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Get over it Jinzin I'll admit the rats and weather manip won't work here cause I wasn't aware this was a voided room.
I'm a fair debater until you and the sidekick Dum Dum call me idiot. ignorant ect that's just rude.
Originally posted by the ninjakSo cool Drac can remain mist and taunt Sabertooth without the threat of Sunlight until Sabs gets frustrated from lack of sleep and food long enough to get bites in.
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