Amazo Vs The Fury

Started by Mr Master6 pages

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

btw when scatterbrain his him with her psi-attack
it said he turned off his brain & switched to "auxilary nervous system"

so how come scatterbrain's attack didn't target his 2nd nervous system too ? (apparently it only affected his primary brain)
on one hand her attacks could affect the entire marvel-verse (that's huge)
but on the other hand it can't even affect the entire target ???
(since it only covered fury's main nervous system)

something don't fit

What doesn't fit is your twisting of Scatterbrain's power.

Scatterbrain can't affect the entire Marvelverse,
Scatterbrain can affect a being on an omniversal scale.

What this means is:

"Time distorts around her.
Motion breaks down into juddering stroboscopic images.
Seconds stretch into centuries.
Aeons condense into instants
"

..........................................................................................................

Fascination (Scatterbrain) wasn't even trying to hurt Brian,
and she knocked him out cold.

When Scatterbrain wants to hurt you,
this TIME affect expands across the Omniverse!

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse
"

==============================================

Now imagine the kind of attack
Scatterbrain unleashed on the Fury after he killed some of her team mates:

Her touch is all that's needed,
yet she clawed her fingers into the Fury's head like a savage!

Fury immediately adapted, and owned Scatterbrain,
and Brian who tried to help.

Originally posted by Utrigita

But crossing barriers? Heck no!

I toke the crossing of Barriers because that is the only thing that I could find that in some way was capable of delivering the amount of damage if I recall correctly, you once said something about Merlyn being thrown through the omniverse ore something like that and that, the journey where he was thrown against the different barriers was a testemony to his durability.


Crossing barriers is a joke.

And I never ever said anything about Merlyn's durability concerning barriers,
I have no idea where you got that from.

Merlyn was tossed withIN the Energy Matrix itself,
he managed to merge with it.

Once withIN the Matrix, there's no need to cross any barriers,
cause that's what the Matrix is, infinite doorways to every Universe in Marvel.

The Matrix actually allows effortless instant access to every Universe,
this is why Excalibur was able to travel across the entire Omniverse easily.

Originally posted by Utrigita

It couldn't then when did it learn it


After it reached 616 and absorbed a CPU the size of an inner mountain.
Originally posted by Utrigita

and how the hell did it travel the old fashion way
from one universe to the next, a universe is infinite...


Email Alan Moore and inquire, cause those are the on panel facts.
Originally posted by Utrigita

The most likely it would run into would be the commen in space,
Meteors Black Holes Supernovas the forces of space,
and none of them should be capable of leaving as much as a single mark on fury master.


Again, and for the third time,
FUry was crossing entire UniverseS without teleporting,
IN Marvel comics, UniverseS are dying (collapsing)
and being re-born on a consistent basis:

Fury could've easily entered many UniverseS that collapsed right on top of it,
but we also have countless other options that might've bombarded Fury,
I'm not going to repeat them all again, so just review many example I gave above.

Again, with sufficient and constant bombardment from all these sources,
at some point, even Fury would've began to wear without sustenance to regenerate.

Originally posted by Utrigita

I think I will I have begun making a habit out of writing the writers. But if only look at the journey, then how can you be absolutely sure that it was the journey through the universes and not between the universes that damaged it? Fact is that you cannot you can only speculate as much as I can.


You must've missed the part when I said my guess is as good as yours.

But imo, crossing barriers (which is a joke) did not damage Fury.

Go find a scan where crossing barriers (in Marvel) is a big deal,
where any reasonably durable character can't survive it.

Originally posted by Utrigita

And what I believe you forgot to focuse on is that even after Fury have battled Mad Jim Jaspers and being down it wouldn't have taken long for him to regain his former strength, even if he runs into major problems his abilities to regain his strength would most certainly make sure that the condition he arrived in shouldn't have been possible.


Incorrect.

Without sustenance of some sort for Fury to regenerate,
Fury can not just will it's recovery.

That's exactly why/how Linda was able to kill Fury,
she attacked him while severely weakened after it's battle with Jaspers,
before it was able to regenerate with the materials around it.

Originally posted by Utrigita

They are but they are all as much speculation Master as my theory is because fact is that we doesn't know, for all we know he could have journey though the universes without receiving a scratch, and the damage that he would receive, he would only receive one time thanks to his ability to adapt.


I never said anything in a factual tone
concerning Fury's damage when it arrived in 616.

But I'm 100% positive it wasn't crossing silly barriers,
which again, is a joke in Marvel for even heralds.

Originally posted by Utrigita

The material to regenerate master is placed all around fury...
If he gets hit by a meteor for instance he can use that to regain his strength


"meteors?' 😂

I never suggested meteors as the culprit of Fury's damage.

I named many other far more potent forces.

Originally posted by Utrigita

So that means that if we take fury and throw it against a being like eternity for instance,
Eternity would be capable of overcomming it sooner ore later
as long as he places it in space and keeps attacking it?


The Fury before absorbing the mountain size CPU?

Probably, since it can not teleport.

The Fury after absorbing the mountain size CPU?

No way, since it's teleportation capabilities were off the charts.

Originally posted by Utrigita

That's a downer.


🙁
Originally posted by Utrigita

That's the Problem I don't 🙁


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Originally posted by Utrigita

I got a different picture about that from these scans.

http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mjj10jz1.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mjj11gm9.jpg


The first scan is the Fury disintegrating Brian with a single blast,
the only blast he ever dealt Brian. (only a single bone of Brian's was left)

The second scan is of Merlyn installing Brian's soul in his body,
which Merlyn had to re-create personally.

Originally posted by Utrigita

The incident with merlyn being blasted by Jaspers/fury
could for all we know have been a illusion made by Merlyn.


If your new style of debate to counter on panel facts is,
"for all we know" (a speculative contradiction of what took place on panel)
then I can't debate like that.

Merlyn got a hole balsted through him, and survived like nothing happened,
simple on panel facts without any unsupported theories behind it.

Originally posted by Utrigita

What I doesn't understand is why you places Merlyns durability so high
because of the Matrix,
I mean Doctor Strange while wielding great power
still only has around human durability.


I don't care about Dr Strange, (that cat's never even been universal)
he's a flea next to what Merlyn was while merged to the Matrix.

Still, like I said, I don't even know if Merlyn is still connected to the Matrix.

Doesn't really matter though, cause we're discussing the real original Fury here,
and the real original Fury scorched matrix/Merlyn's hands, (who was merged)
and matrix/Merlyn was an omniversal God.

And Fury blew 616 Jaspers into a skeleton while withIN his warp, (all of 616)
and 616 Jaspers was far more powerful than even matrix/Merlyn.

Those are the facts true debater.

Originally posted by Mr Master

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse
"

so basically the victim is like "astral projection" or something ? he travels all over the omniverse (or something like that)
does it kill them ?
==============================================

Now imagine the kind of attack
Scatterbrain unleashed on the Fury after he killed some of her team mates:

Her touch is all that's needed,
yet she clawed her fingers into the Fury's head like a savage!

Fury immediately adapted, and owned Scatterbrain,
and Brian who tried to help. [/B]

yeah THATS IT THATS THE ONE that's the comic I was talking about thx ! 🙂

so why didn't she target his 2nd nervous system too ????? her power only afrfect his main brain but not his backup brain ro whatever

btw kinda offtopic, but:

I don't care about Dr Strange, (that cat's never even been universal)
he's a flea next to what Merlyn was while merged to the Matrix.
can't Dr Strange absorb anyone's power & take their place ? (a bit like Rogue or DC's Black Alice but better)
iirc he can absorb even ultra strong being powers (like that octopus thing cant remember its name) or even omnipotent beings

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

so basically the victim is like "astral projection" or something ?
he travels all over the omniverse (or something like that)
does it kill them ?


Not exactly.

It's not an astral projection,
it's one's consciousness that's literally expanded to fill every part of the Omniverse,
this is too much for anyone below omniversal level awareness.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

yeah THATS IT THATS THE ONE that's the comic I was talking about thx !


You're welcome.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer

so why didn't she target his 2nd nervous system too ?????
her power only afrfect his main brain but not his backup brain ro whatever


Dude, look/read the scan, she was pulverized immediately after Fury adapted,
she obviously didn't have time to do anything more.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

btw kinda offtopic, but: can't Dr Strange absorb [b]anyone's power & take their place ? (a bit like Rogue or DC's Black Alice but better)
iirc he can absorb even ultra strong being powers (like that octopus thing cant remember its name) or even omnipotent beings [/B]


No.

Dr Strange has to be allowed to use a cosmic's power,
and not all cosmics are so friendly.

Meh, on top of this, it has to be in the cosmic's interest,
this is the only reason Order/Chaos allowed it once,
likewise once by Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Dude, look/read the scan, she was pulverized immediately after Fury adapted,
she obviously didn't have time to do anything more. [/B]

LOL ok i get it

man i forgot how that sonofa is FAST!!

one thing though, how come she can dig her nails into him ? surly he must have gotten physical superdurability superman-style to adapt to previous physical attacks so he should be able to resist even high caliber bullets easy
(and besides she's not even super strength 😕 )

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

LOL ok i get it

man i forgot how that sonofa is FAST!!


It's ok friend, we all learn as we go.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer

one thing though, how come she can dig her nails into him ?
surly he must have gotten physical superdurability superman-style
to adapt to previous physical attacks
so he should be able to resist even high caliber bullets easy
(and besides she's not even super strength)


And how do you know she's not strong?

She's very touch, and very strong my friend,
aside from having that incredible power.

In fact, she lasted longer than anyone else in that Fury ambush,
she also recovered quickly from Fury's physical attack,
while everyone else got stomped, several were even murdered by Fury.

ok looks liek your right
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/fascination.htm

she got some superstrength

(gee everyones got superstrength those days :/)

captain britain looked so much stronger though (like shazam/superman class with invulnerability too) and yet Fury spanks him around like he's its ***** lol

Amazo takes it, I dont see anything from Fury that would change my mind.

depends whos power is better

depends if Fury can adapt to anything & everything (IMO it can or at least its shown to)
also depends if Amazo can copy anything so as to stay 1 step ahead of Fury (I dunno if he can)

So 5/5 possibly, although Im thinking Amazo could just copy Fury...that would be scary.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So 5/5 possibly, although Im thinking Amazo could just copy Fury...that would be scary.

So, Amazo copies Fury's ability to adapt...and Fury adapts to compensate.

Seriously, his abilities are that WTFesque.

Infinite adapting war yay.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Infinite adapting war yay.

Pretty much. That's why I think it'd be a stalemate.

throw Doomsday into the mix and it's a real ****ing mess hehe...

Fury somehow adapts the ability to disband the Justice League 💃 .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Fury somehow adapts the ability to disband the Justice League 💃 .

If its Amazo from JLA 5 & 6, he doesn't even need it. 😄

Originally posted by Enyalus
If its Amazo from JLA 5 & 6, he doesn't even need it. 😄

Huh?