Imperiex +probes vs Marvel earth(classic)

Started by Space M ummy7 pages
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah after his probes are destroyed Imperiex eats the cosmic cube and earth.

a cosmic cube in the right hands would RUIN imperiex. do you know how powerful those things are?

Originally posted by UniOmni
Imperiex+Probes is too much, tho it's mostly because of Imperiex himself.

OWAW was a dcu wide event, and DC earth couldn't do it alone, so why do people expect MEarth to?

I mean, Reed and Doom could always come together and think up Something while the heroes hold off the probes, but outside of that, Earth loses.

Reed could always ask galactus to borrow the UN right quick like 👆

The question of whether MM can destroy universes?

He hit Beyonder with a blast which in Beyonder's own words- ' could have laid waste to thousands of realities' .

And MM wasn't even strained.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
a cosmic cube in the right hands would RUIN imperiex. do you know how powerful those things are?
Yeah 1 cube is not going to beat Imperiex do know how powerful he is? I hate play the who knows more game plus you will lose.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah 1 cube is not going to beat Imperiex do know how powerful he is? I hate play the who knows more game plus you will lose.

😆

One cosmic cube gives one the ability to reshape all reality, given that the wielder's will is strong enough.

Mature cube beings like Shaper of Worlds, Kubic, and Kosmos are LESS powerful than a raw, immature cube, (due to self imposed limits placed on themselves that immature cubes don't have) and Thanos (AFTER wielding the IG) referred to the power of Kosmos as "limitless."

CURRENT Molecule man is only roughly HALF of one, and the LT referred to HIS power as "practically limitless."

Imperiex and his probes would get wiped the hell out by the full power of a cosmic cube. Properly used, It's on the same level the infinity gems are.

Here's some scans of when Thanos had one cube from the respect thread:

Controls "all things throughout the universe"

Holds the galaxy in his palm, ready to crush it like an eggshell

Shifts the entire planet out of phase with time

and finally...

Merges himself with the universe, becoming "part of everything...and god."

Like I said...I don't think you really DID know just how powerful a raw cosmic cube actually is. There's virtually no argument you can make about imperiex or his probes overcoming something like that.

The cubes can remake reality, bend time to the user's whim, ressurrect the dead and create life from nothing. Imperiex is SCREWED.

Classic marvel earth 10/10.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
😆

One cosmic cube gives one the ability to reshape all reality, given that the wielder's will is strong enough.

Mature cube beings like Shaper of Worlds, Kubic, and Kosmos are LESS powerful than a raw, immature cube, (due to self imposed limits placed on themselves that immature cubes don't have) and Thanos (AFTER wielding the IG) referred to the power of Kosmos as "limitless."

CURRENT Molecule man is only roughly HALF of one, and the LT referred to HIS power as "practically limitless."

Imperiex and his probes would get wiped the hell out by the full power of a cosmic cube. Properly used, It's on the same level the infinity gems are.

Here's some scans of when Thanos had one cube from the respect thread:

Controls "all things throughout the universe"

Holds the galaxy in his palm, ready to crush it like an eggshell

Shifts the entire planet out of phase with time

and finally...

Merges himself with the universe, becoming "part of everything...and god."

Like I said...I don't think you really DID know just how powerful a raw cosmic cube actually is. There's virtually no argument you can make about imperiex or his probes overcoming something like that.

The cubes can remake reality, bend time to the user's whim, ressurrect the dead and create life from nothing. Imperiex is SCREWED.

Classic marvel earth 10/10.

yeah i dont see how you could argue against that 😆

Imperiex is a weak ripoff of Galactus who was beaten by Superman. That was the whole reason he was created, to job to Superman. And like some ppl already pointed out, Superman and Doomsday owned probes left, right and center. Classic Marvel Earth is probably the most powerful form and even without cosmic help from SS the heavy hitters (Thor, the Hulk, etc) will take care of the wimpy anal probes while Mister Fantastic whups up an uber-obliterizor thingy to send Imperiex straight back into the crappy universe he crawled out of. If Marvel Earth can repel Galactus then they won't have trouble with a pale imitation.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Even Though Asgard and Olympus aren't technically "on earth" they ARE "earth based" and would show up if imperiex probes invaded. (think of what the response was when the 3rd celestial host appeared.)

Zeus + Odin + their associated gods would open up an entire CAN of whoopass on imperiex probes.

Odin could and probably WOULD summon the 10,000 foot tall superdestroyer (with odinsword) and wipe them out singlehandedly. That thing is immensely powerful.

MM is a good one- he would solo.

Classic Marvel Earth had the surfer on it.

Classic Strange was a LOT stronger than current. Time stop/BFR, theres a lot of things he could do.

Classic Marvel Earth has the watcher living on the moon, and the watcher WOULD intervene for probes, as he did when galactus showed up, and when Doom gained a 'cube.

For that matter, classic marvel earth [b]has a fully powered cosmic cube on it. anyone on the planet who happened to have it could wipe out the probes just by thinking about it.

Classic Marvel earth wins by a mile. [/B]

Classic Marvel 616 Earth also has an edict by Galactus, ellicited by Reed Richards, that absolutely no harm would come to Earth, if it was in Galactus' power to prevent such. This is somewhat of a cop-out answer, but since we're talking classic Marvel Earth (complete with MM as mentioned), the edict from Galactus also holds.

Originally posted by UKR
Imperiex is a weak ripoff of Galactus who was beaten by Superman. That was the whole reason he was created, to job to Superman. And like some ppl already pointed out, Superman and Doomsday owned probes left, right and center. Classic Marvel Earth is probably the most powerful form and even without cosmic help from SS the heavy hitters (Thor, the Hulk, etc) will take care of the wimpy anal probes while Mister Fantastic whups up an uber-obliterizor thingy to send Imperiex straight back into the crappy universe he crawled out of. If Marvel Earth can repel Galactus then they won't have trouble with a pale imitation.

Except this pale imitation as you so call you him is dozens of times stronger then galactus is on most occasions,and that was a ressurected h/p doomsday who dominates top tiers,and a supermen who let go of his humanity which is what holds him back from being much much beyond top tier,without MM or someone marvel gets raped in two seconds.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Except this pale imitation as you so call you him is dozens of times stronger then galactus is on most occasions,and that was a ressurected h/p doomsday who dominates top tiers,and a supermen who let go of his humanity which is what holds him back from being much much beyond top tier,without MM or someone marvel gets raped in two seconds.

Superman cannot be and is not above top tier regardless of whether he lets go of his humanity.( unless by that u mean sundipping)

And that would be where your wrong,its been stated numerous times that his human side is the only thing holding him back,we have seen evolved kryptonians like chris kent in countdown,his human side holds him back from his true potential in the OWAW he let go of that and was virtually unstoppable as shown on panel and confirmed by the author of the book himself.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Superman cannot be and is not above top tier regardless of whether he lets go of his humanity.( unless by that u mean sundipping)

Superman does hold back a lot. He held back his power against DD in their first encounter. Of course he stoped holding back when he relized DD doesn't stop

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And that would be where your wrong,its been stated numerous times that his human side is the only thing holding him back,we have seen evolved kryptonians like chris kent in countdown,his human side holds him back from his true potential in the OWAW he let go of that and was virtually unstoppable as shown on panel and confirmed by the author of the book himself.

Wasnt he sundipped in OWAW? Im talking about a regular non sundipped superman. Nothing above top tier about him.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And that would be where your wrong,its been stated numerous times that his human side is the only thing holding him back,we have seen evolved kryptonians like chris kent in countdown,his human side holds him back from his true potential in the OWAW he let go of that and was virtually unstoppable as shown on panel and confirmed by the author of the book himself.
Wasn't he sundipped in OWAW?

lol asked the same thing

Originally posted by Mindset
Wasn't he sundipped in OWAW?

lol asked the same thing

I don't think he's talking about that instance. I think he's referring to the part where Superman and Doomsday were tearing through Imperiex Probes.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wasn't he sundipped in OWAW?

lol asked the same thing


Talking about when he was mindlessly owning imperiex probs like they were small children.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Talking about when he was mindlessly owning imperiex probs like they were small children.

And so a singular high feat proves that superman is above somehow top tier?

If by singular you mean he destroyed like dozens+ of them effortlessly while at his normal top tier level he was barely fighting off one yes...he was above top tier in that instance,its been referenced in other comics about him letting go and becoming a cosmic being,his t-vo is practically a plot device,an evolved kryptonian like chris kent can draw on other power sources besides the sun and effortlessly owned 2 supermen and bent their heat vision like it wasn't there,superman in the instance where he was owning probes and stuff was at that point above top tier and the only reason is because he let go of his humanity.

Doesn't every hero have a super saiyan mode?

WM Thor for example.

Not really,there is a difference between some people getting pissed and getting somewhat stronger and someone like superman going from fighting somewhat evenly with probes to effortlessly destroying armies of them,hulk won't be doing that by hulking out,and thor can't really willingly go into wm,top tier heroes are going to be having serious problems with all those probes.