Scorpion vs. Master Chief

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Prove it.

I know for a fact, that you have no idea how strong or durable the Chief is outside of the games. So you can't prove it.

Yet you can't prove that he would take out Scorpion before he can powerup.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Nah.

When Scorpion moves fast enough that bullets move in slow motion to him, and he can casually flip 60 ton tanks, call me.

I think it would be rediculous to say that he won't be strong enough to do any of these when they're in an area where he constantly get stronger. That's just idiotic.

Originally posted by SmashBro
Yet you can't prove that he would take out Scorpion before he can powerup.

I don't have to prove squat. You made the claim that Scorpion in hell will power up enough to beat the Chief. [b]You need to prove it. I can just sit back and watch; that's the rules of debating. So, get to it.

I think it would be rediculous to say that he won't be able to do any of this when they're in an area where he constantly get stronger. That's just idiotic. [/B]

He doesn't get "constantly" stronger. He gets a nice little boost, but that's it. He doesn't slowly become god.

Originally posted by SmashBro
Yet you can't prove that he would take out Scorpion before he can powerup.

I think it would be rediculous to say that he won't be strong enough to do any of these when they're in an area where he constantly get stronger. That's just idiotic.

B. As Blax pointed out, we do not have to prove jack-squat, burden of proof falls on you.

C. Scorpion's "boost" has not been proven to take him to a level even nearing Chief.

2. He doesn't constantly get stronger, prove this claim please. And prove that Scorpion, or hell, for funsies, ANYONE in MK can see bullets in slow motion or can flip 60 ton tanks.

So what all MC can do? I never played Halo.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
I don't have to prove squat. You made the claim that Scorpion in hell will power up enough to beat the Chief. [b]You need to prove it. I can just sit back and watch; that's the rules of debating. So, get to it.[/B]

You yourself made a claim, stating that Chief would take Scorpion out before he can get stronger, yet you don't have to prove it? Wow that's very fair, dude. 🙄

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
He doesn't get "constantly" stronger. He gets a nice little boost, but that's it. He doesn't slowly become god.

Yes he does get keep getting stronger. There's no "little boost". His power constantly increases as he stays in the Netherrealm (like how Superman being inside a yellow sun).

Originally posted by Gumachi
So what all MC can do? I never played Halo.

Speed: Can run half a kilometer in 9 seconds with a broken ankle, and can see bullets in slow motion, placing reaction time at bullet-time.

Durability: Survived falling from low orbit with no injury, only his suit was injured.

Originally posted by SmashBro
You yourself made a claim, stating that Chief would take Scorpion out before he can get stronger, yet you don't have to prove it? Wow that's very fair, dude. 🙄

Yes he does get keep getting stronger. There's no "little boost". His power constantly increases as he stays in the Netherrealm (like how Superman being inside a yellow sun).

2. Prove this please.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Strength: Can easily flip 60 ton tanks, putting him above class 60 lifting range, as in he can lift more than 60 tons.

Speed: Can run half a kilometer in 9 seconds with a broken ankle, and can see bullets in slow motion, placing reaction time at bullet-time.

Durability: Survived falling from low orbit with no injury, only his suit was injured.

1. 😱

2.HOLY SHIT!!!!

3.OMG

I'm not being sarcastic but wow man he really is powerful. 2.I'm stunned. With a broken ankle? CRAP!

Originally posted by SmashBro
[B]You yourself made a claim, stating that Chief would take Scorpion out before he can get stronger, yet you don't have to prove it? Wow that's very fair, dude. 🙄

I listed his feats, you didn't even bother countering them. Listing the Chief's feats, which are superior to Scorpions, is plenty enough explanation and proof. It's up to you to disprove them. You made a claim, trying to disprove them. So back it up.

Yes he does get keep getting stronger. There's no "little boost". His power constantly increases as he stays in the Netherrealm (like how Superman being inside a yellow sun).

Show me.

Originally posted by Gumachi
1. 😱

2.HOLY SHIT!!!!

3.OMG

I'm not being sarcastic but wow man he really is powerful. 2.I'm stunned. With a broken ankle? CRAP!

So wait. It's not him getting hurt but his suit?

I never may played Halo. But I know one way or another MC might be able to outsmart him and kill him. And that "get over here" thing wouldn't work he could easily dodge that.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. A. Yes, we can, what with Chief being strong enough to KO Scorpion in one move, and being fast enough(bullet-time) to accomplish it.

If he can get him when he's teleporting.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
B. As Blax pointed out, we do not have to prove jack-squat, burden of proof falls on you.

So you just make a claim and don't prove anything?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
C. Scorpion's "boost" has not been proven to take him to a level even nearing Chief.

Yet despite the fact his power constantly increases when he's the Netherrealm?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
2. He doesn't constantly get stronger, prove this claim please. And prove that Scorpion, or hell, for funsies, ANYONE in MK can see bullets in slow motion or can flip 60 ton tanks.

He does constantly get stronger. Here's his DA bio:

http://www.trmk.org/games/mkda/guides/moves.php?character=1

It says it right there: Scorpion's powers increased the longer he stayed there.

Okay, now first tell me how durable Chief is?

MJOLNIR armor contains an impact absorbing gel that renders most forms of physical trauma useless. It is also made of a special alloy that renders it nearly invulnerable to heat. It can withstand multiple blasts from Covenent plasma, which is stated in the novels to be hotter than the sun.

Originally posted by SmashBro
[B]IHe does constantly get stronger. Here's his DA bio:

Gotcha.

His boost depends entirely on how long he stays there. The Chief is much faster and much stronger than Scorpion, and possesses a nearly invulnerable armor. You need to show two things

1. Scorpion can survive long enough to gain this "uberz powah".

2. How fast his power grows. It might take him a few seconds to match the Chief. It might take him days. Who knows?

Okay, now first tell me how durable Chief is?

MJOLNIR armor can tank missile explosions and doesn't even crack after falling thousands of feet. It weighs over a 1000 pounds. Impact= Mass X Velocity, thus the Chief's armor can withstand the force of a 1000 pound object falling at terminal velocity... which is thousands of pounds of force. It wasn't even dented. An Elite can kill the Chief via blunt force, and an Elite is class 60 (60 tons), meaning it has a lifting strength of 120000 pounds.

Scorpion would have to match that.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Gotcha.

His boost depends entirely on how long he stays there. The Chief is much faster and much stronger than Scorpion, and possesses a nearly invulnerable armor. You need to show two things

1. Scorpion can survive long enough to gain this "uberz powah".

2. How fast his power grows. It might take him a few seconds to match the Chief. It might take him days. Who knows?

1. Scorpion can teleport all around that area. He knows his way around Netherrealm and the area they're gonna be fighting.

2. All we do know is that his powers increases, not how long it takes.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
MJOLNIR armor can tank missile explosions and doesn't even crack after falling thousands of feet. It weighs over a 1000 pounds. Impact= Mass X Velocity, thus the Chief's armor can withstand the force of a 1000 pound object falling at terminal velocity... which is thousands of pounds of force. It wasn't even dented. An Elite can kill the Chief via blunt force, and an Elite is class 60 (60 tons), meaning it has a lifting strength of 120000 pounds.

Scorpion would have to match that.

Scorpion has previously shown to be strong enough to rip through Onaga. That's all that comes to mind for now.

Originally posted by SmashBro
If he can get him when he's teleporting.

So you just make a claim and don't prove anything?

Yet despite the fact his power constantly increases when he's the Netherrealm?

He does constantly get stronger. Here's his DA bio:

http://www.trmk.org/games/mkda/guides/moves.php?character=1

It says it right there: Scorpion's powers increased the longer he stayed there.

Okay, now first tell me how durable Chief is?

1B. Already explained that.

1C. And how long would it take to get to that level? And his "power" increases, can you prove his physical strength and speed increase in the same way?

2. K. Got it. Can you prove it would happen quickly enough to battle with Chief evenly, or that it can factually increase that much? Never says the amp is unlimited.

I already explained how durable Chief is. Pay attention next time.

Originally posted by SmashBro
1. Scorpion can teleport all around that area. He knows his way around Netherrealm and the area they're gonna be fighting.

So what you're saying, is that Scorpion will spend 99% of the match running away, than wait until he's ultimate strong and pwn him?

Running away and avoiding any form of fighting is a loss.

2. All we do know is that his powers increases, not how long it takes.

Than how do we use this in this match? We have no idea how long it will take him to get as powerful as he needs to get?

Scorpion has previously shown to be strong enough to rip through Onaga. That's all that comes to mind for now.

I don't think that's enough.

Originally posted by SmashBro
1. Scorpion can teleport all around that area. He knows his way around Netherrealm and the area they're gonna be fighting.

2. All we do know is that his powers increases, not how long it takes.

Scorpion has previously shown to be strong enough to rip through Onaga. That's all that comes to mind for now.

2. Nor do his physical strength and speed increase in the same way.

3. Onaga who has never proven himself to be as durable as Chief, not to mention said Scorpion was amped beyond his usual levels I believe, Champ of Elder Gods or something.

It doesn't take place in Netherrealm. He was just saying.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. You made the claim that Scorpion's attributes would increase enough to beat Chief, after Blax said they would not. You are asking Blax to prove a negative, which is impossible. You need to prove the positive claim that they would.

2. Prove this please.

1. No, I asked Blax to prove that Chief can take Scorpion out before he can increase. I wasn't asking him to prove a negative.

2. Already did.