chess match vegeta vs piccolo

Originally posted by jimBOFH
Vegeta isn't intelligent in the sense that he's never going to write a paper on particle physics etc. As a warrior and commander though, he's reasonably intelligent- he's also very arrogant, which is why he waited for Goku, and why he let Cell absorb 18. However, this arrogance only applies when he is personally fighting- i think he'd be much better at a strategy game than Goku would because in that situation he's strategically smarter, but because he isn't personally doing the fighting he wouldn't make the same arrogant mistakes as he does against Goku, Frieza and Cell.
That said, I think Piccolo would still win- he's just more intelligent overall than Vegeta is, and would probably know more strategies for chess than Vegeta.
Goku is a natural fighter- he learns techniques very quickly. However, he's not as good at strategy/tactics as Vegeta is, partly because he hates sacrificing people- e.g. Vegeta in the Buu saga- and in chess, you often have to sacrifice pieces to get into the position you want.
In sporting terms, i think Goku would make a better team captain/star player than Vegeta, but Vegeta would make a better coach.

very true

Originally posted by Kento
Gokou isn't smart but he's done some ingenius things during battle to make me think he's smarter in battle. Piccolo is the wisest fighter thanks to Kami being part of him so I think he could beat Vegeta in a chess match. Mainly because Vegeta isn't really that smart himself.

Piccolo was highly intelligent before he merged with Kami.

Oh, yeah. Let's not forget when Piccolo tore Babidi in half. 😄

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More than Vegeta could've done, since he would've let himself be taken over by the wizard just to become stronger..
Oh, that's right. He did do that.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Oh, yeah. Let's not forget when Piccolo tore Babidi in half. 😄

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More than Vegeta could've done, since he would've let himself be taken over by the wizard just to become stronger..
Oh, that's right. He did do that.

haha Piccolo ownd Babadi

I think if it came down to pure wit and itellagence Piccolo wins, especially after fusing with Kami. Vegeta is still one smart mo fo though...

Originally posted by jimBOFH
What do you mean by "taken over", seeing as Vegeta didn't take any orders from Babidi but just wanted to fight Goku?
He allowed Babidi to "possess" him, because he guessed- rightly as it turned out- that he was capable of over-riding babidi's control.

My point though was what Piccolo did there to Babidi was more than what Vegeta would've done to him. He wouldn't tear the wizard in half/try to kill him. Not if Vegeta wanted to get possessed for that Majin power boost, which he did.. Piccolo however was above doing anything like that by the time he merged with Kami. 🙂

Yes but that's not a tactics thing, that's ethics. There are no points given in chess for having the moral high ground.
It would only have been a tactical mistake if Vegeta had actually come under Babidi's control- he resisted that entirely though.
My point with the taken over thing was that Vegeta remained entirely in control.

Vegeto knew what he was doing when he allowed Babidi to invade his minded.

Piccolo and Goku both can read minds, so Piccolo could possibly cheat like that but since Goku can do it too them Vegeta possibly knows how to as well.

Piccolo with Kami is definitely wiser and over all 'smarter' than Vegeta but I always felt the impression given was that Vegeta was the best tactician of the z fighters with Piccolo coming in second. Vegeta almost successfully pulled off what would have been an amazing coup on Namek. Piccolo himself has called Vegeta a genius.

Anyway I'm calling tossup.

Goku needs contact to do it though, so presumably Vegeta would too, whereas Piccolo is at least able to communicate telepathically over distance.
Excluding cheating though, I agree it would be a close match.