Originally posted by Battlehammer
Oh please I don't care that shaw beat him, hell there many people less powerful then shaw who would defeat him.I simply find it odd it took shaw two ahnds to lift a small rock...........when during his fight with wolverine he wa spushing levels well beyond that.
I also find it even more odd that it took shaw an entire issue to get 30 feet.........
I even find it wierder that if wolverine ran why would he not say something to prof x about the fact shaw likly to show up and there all defenseless..........just does not add up.
He didn't struggle to lift the rock. They didn't even show him lifting the rock. It has a good sized rock big enough to kill X. Holding something with two hands doesn't mean that they are struggling. Does Hulk struggle everytime he holds/lifts something with two hands?
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Nope. If Logan did stay and fight Shaw he sure as hell didn't do his job. Which leads me to believe he fled as he didn't have time to get his @ss kicked.
Hehe I was just baiting.
But you at least acknowledge there is no way to be sure what happened and the there is validity to by opinion?
Originally posted by Starscream M
nah...your 'points' were too ridiculous and farfetched to respond to
Go back and quote every post where I discribe what would have had to have happened in order for Wolverine running from Shaw to be a viable senario and the underneath type "Yes, this is what I believe."
... and the tell my oppinion is ridiculous and far-fetched.
Originally posted by srankmissingninI also think Shaw was holding back. One minute he talking about killing Logan with a choke and the very next he's talking about having some time to kill.
Hehe I was just baiting.But you at least acknowledge there is no way to be sure what happened and the there is validity to by opinion?
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I think he said bend, not break. Which would be easier(not saying it's possible).
True, but if he was strong enough to bend primary adamantium, he'd be far and away physically the strongest dude in the Marvel Universe... which I think we all agree he isn't.
With the way Shaw was holding Wolverine, he should be dead right now. Why didn't Wolverine stab him in the face? Why didn't Wolverine use his arm that was behind his back to open the artery on Shaw's inner thy (which would only require a 1/4 of an inch incision)? Instead he decides to fling Shaw off him by headbutting the ground (and then he crawls away from Shaw instead of leaping on him and stabbing the crap out of him)? We saw Wolverine draw blood form Shaw in 218, and we've seen other people do it before. The fight took place off panel because Wolverine would kill Shaw in a fight, there isn't any way the fight can be logically written where that doesn't happen, the only way around it is to not write the fight at all. Let it happen off let the readers try and figure out what happened... which is what happened.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Yes she did i guess I have to get out the scan of wolverine standing up getting out of a wheel chair to attack her and Punchout one shotting him.
Get the scan buddy and while your at it look at the panel two panels after she punches Wolverine where he is pulling on his mask and getting up. She punched him and knocked him down, she didn't one shot him. Try again.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Except he didn't say "You don't [b]track by smell" he said "you don't hunt by smell," which has completely different connonatitons that any writer would be well aware of.Wolverine explains that he knows that everytime he hits Shaw, he gets stronger, but Shaw doesn't hunt by smell. Why does he say this? Because Wolverine does hunt by smell. If they weren't going to fight, why would he cut the power? Cutting the power to a single flood light would be meaningless. Darkness is only beneficial to Wolverine if he was intending to continue battling Shaw in the dark.
I mean... It's Shaws property. He has the home field advatage. Wolverine cut the power to a single flood light in his yard. We saw that the power was still on inside his mansion. You seriously want to take the postion that Wolverines plan was to cut the powered to one light, and then run into Shaws still power mansion (a mansion that Shaw knows 100 times better that Wolverine) in an attempt to lose him? That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Wolverine's getaway plan was to run into a place Shaw knows better than he does with nothing other that a few feet of relative darkness to slow Shaw down in his own front yard? Does that make sense to you? I know Wolverine's Batman but come on. [/B]
Well, the main ideea seems to be that Srank > Battlehammer.
What happened after Logan cut off the lights ? Well, one thing that didn't happen, at least from my point of view, is Wolverine defeating Shaw. The rest is irrelevant. Once he cut off the lights, he could have just sneaked out of there with Shaw thinking that Wolverine is still there and ready to fight.