Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Here's what I believe.I believe that all men are [b]created
equal.I believe that god created the earth, giving man a choice to ultimately love and follow him or betray him, and that adam and eve chose poorly, sinking us into the state that we are in now.
I believe that Jesus died on the cross and caused it so that we have an option so that we won't live the eternity of betrayers to our creator and that all one has to do is chose that option to be saved for eternity.
I believe that a human being should be allowed to DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, own WHATEVER THEY WANT, and believe WHATEVER THEY WANT. I also believe that a human being is free to dislike whomever they want, including racism. It's someone's constitutional right. Now this person should not be allowed a government job, but overall, he has the right to reject anyone he wants.
alot of people will cry over this, but my point is that I am not a racist, but I'm not forcing anyone else not to be, but everyone has the the constitutional right to free speech.I believe that the founding fathers were devout Christians who made The United States of America to run on the oldest and most successful morale code in history, and ultimately created the best man-made society, which has slowly deteriorated ever since.
I believe that Jesus Christ or the christian morale code should not dominate anyone. You should be free to do what you want, be what you want, act how you want. Laws should only apply to things that hurt either the state, the society as a whole, or the property or person of another individual. You don't want to believe what I believe? well the reason that Jesus doesn't come down and "omg y dunt jesus come down and stop all evil if hes so good, lol" is because you should be free to choose, and that's an integral part of the christian morale code.
I believe that evolution is not valid enough to be taught in schools.
I believe in the nuclear family.
I believe that in an ideal society, the man provides for the wife who home-schools her children so that they will reflect the beliefs of their guardians and not those of the state.
I believe that evolution is not valid enough for public schools, and that the origin of the universe and of mankind should not be taught in schools at all.
I believe in baseball
I believe in Apple Pie
I believe in Thanksgiving
I believe in Christmas
I believe in Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness.
I believe everything in this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruRpreggAtc&feature=related
I believe that superman fights for truth, justice, and the American way, not just truth and justice, as he seems to fight for in more recent incarnations.
I believe that guns are more than a tool or a killing machine. They represent freedom and the freedom that America stands for.
I believe that abortion goes against the constitution because it is robbing someone of their life, their liberty, and their pursuit of happiness.
I believe in the right to free speech.
I believe in the right of life for everyone.
I believe in the right of liberty for everyone.
I believe in the right to the pursuit of happiness for everyone.
I believe in the America of the 18th century, the America of the cowboys, the America of the 50s, and the America of world war II.
I believe in the America of today. [/B]
I believe the harder you push, the more shit comes out of your *******.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
I believe that devil king is a totally unpatriotic contemptible 12 year old.
Its a bit hard to ask someone to be patriotic for a country which by-law makes them second class citizens...
I mean, far be it from me to cast out judgements, but have you ever lived in a country where things you can't control - in his case sexuality- are used against you to demonise you, bully you and make you feel ashamed of being alive?
Can you imagine what its like to know that in your own country a sizeable amount of the population HATE you by default?
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-GavOne of the things he seems to get wrong is that I don't hate him, I think his actions are wrong, but I don't hate him. I don't bully him, and I think he has every right to do what he does.
I mean, far be it from me to cast out judgements, but have you ever lived in a country where things you can't control - in his case sexuality- are used against you to demonise you, bully you and make you feel ashamed of being alive?Can you imagine what its like to know that in your own country a sizeable amount of the population HATE you by default?
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
One of the things he seems to get wrong is that I don't hate him, I think his actions are wrong, but I don't hate him. I don't bully him, and I think he has every right to do what he does.
I'm sure you believe you don't hate him and I am also sure you could get along with him perfectly amicably...despite what he does/doesn't do.
Fact is- to hate homosexual acts leads to a hatred of homosexuals...its overkill. 'Cause, I don't think you have the necessary ability to differentiate between a man and his actions...
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-GavIf his actions were harmful to others or society, no i would not differentiate between a man and his actions, but as it is, sexuality is just an over-celebrated six inches of the human body, and i have a few homo friends who respect my beliefs, and think that its good that I have my convictions.
I'm sure you believe you don't hate him and I am also sure you could get along with him perfectly amicably...despite what he does/doesn't do.Fact is- to hate homosexual acts leads to a hatred of homosexuals...its overkill. 'Cause, I don't think you have the necessary ability to differentiate between a man and his actions...
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
If his actions were harmful to others or society, no i would not differentiate between a man and his actions, but as it is, sexuality is just an over-celebrated six inches of the human body, and i have a few homo friends who respect my beliefs, and think that its good that I have my convictions.
But, you do believe it is harmful to society...you have already said that...
copy/pasted from my original arguement with the moron king:
First of all, the main reason for gay marriage is so that they can get the same treatment as heterosexual marriage. The reasons that the government should not allow this are quite blatant.
1. Unlike blacks being allowed to vote, which is the popular analogy you seem so deft to take, Homosexuals chose the way that they are.
2. Now if you take away morals completely, you will find that homosexuality is still a grievous trespass against communities. First of all, it allows a homosexual to take his or her spouse on as a dependent. This means that the government would have to give him more of a tax return. It would also mean that, if in a government or other job that would give healthcare, these jobs would be forced to give healthcare to the spouse. Now this is fine in heterosexual marriages, because the social plan is that man+woman=children=citizens=taxes, so the government reaps what it sews in the long run. With Homosexual marriage, there are no children being produced, so this is already money just adding to the load on our tumbling economy's anvil. Furthermore, after homosexual sex, aids ensues and the two parties die. Now you have lost tax dollars, and citizens who could benefit society. That's why homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.
Now, if these homosexuals were to adopt, they would have a child who would be emotionally and mentally scarred from:
a) Being in a homosexual home.
b) having their original parents die early.
c) having their new "parents" die early.
I'm against marriage period. Straight marriage too. Marriage "licenses" are stupid. You are whatever you say you are. If I'm with someone permanently, that's the way it is. Marriage itself is just a social construct derived from various religions, most of which go back well beyond currently practiced religions, so the religions claiming it to be their particular institution is fairly ignorant. Handing out a license for it is even more idiotic, because it pretends to regulate morality.
Also, if you got rid of all marriage licenses, homosexuals wouldn't have anything to complain about. Problem solved. The churhces can still marry or not marry whoever they want, but the issue was always with the official governments documents that confirm it.
If people want to go through the ritual and whatnot, great, let them. Just don't hand them out as a government like we can control what is and isn't right. Separations of church and state my ass.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
copy/pasted from my original arguement with the moron king:First of all, the main reason for gay marriage is so that they can get the same treatment as heterosexual marriage. The reasons that the government should not allow this are quite blatant.
1. Unlike blacks being allowed to vote, which is the popular analogy you seem so deft to take, Homosexuals chose the way that they are.
2. Now if you take away morals completely, you will find that homosexuality is still a grievous trespass against communities. First of all, it allows a homosexual to take his or her spouse on as a dependent. This means that the government would have to give him more of a tax return. It would also mean that, if in a government or other job that would give healthcare, these jobs would be forced to give healthcare to the spouse. Now this is fine in heterosexual marriages, because the social plan is that man+woman=children=citizens=taxes, so the government reaps what it sews in the long run. With Homosexual marriage, there are no children being produced, so this is already money just adding to the load on our tumbling economy's anvil. Furthermore, after homosexual sex, aids ensues and the two parties die. Now you have lost tax dollars, and citizens who could benefit society. That's why homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.Now, if these homosexuals were to adopt, they would have a child who would be emotionally and mentally scarred from:
a) Being in a homosexual home.
b) having their original parents die early.
c) having their new "parents" die early.
You have a warped view of homosexuality. AIDS is not a homosexual disease, there are many, many heterosexuals affected by it, and besides, with current advancements in medicinge, being HIV positive, is no longer an immediate death sentence. Sufferers of the virus can live a relatively normal live for many, many years.
Though it is beside the point, as clean, monogamous homosexual couples can have as much homo-sex with each other as they want and they will not get AIDS.
You don't understand very many things about the fundamentals of homosexuality, which leads you to have such an ignorant and offensive view. I doubt you want to educate yourself, but it would be greatly beneficial.